For all you slurpers out there

[nwfisch]

Again - I don't know anyone who has said they expect all the prospects to pan out. We've got two sides here, those hopeful that several do pan out, and those that expect few (if any) to pan out. The reality lies somewhere in between, most likely...but it's like Cutler in the Bears forum. Regardless of the fact that neither side of the proverbial fence is correct, we'll bicker back and forth like 4th graders for no reason at all...assuming the side with the most loud voices is winning. Happy posting.

We should do a Cubs radio show. That'd be good banter .

 

[X]

We should do a Cubs radio show. That'd be good banter .

When people argue with no perspective at all - it's good banter, but terrible radio - haha

 

[patg006]

Again - I don't know anyone who has said they expect all the prospects to pan out. We've got two sides here, those hopeful that several do pan out, and those that expect few (if any) to pan out. The reality lies somewhere in between, most likely...but it's like Cutler in the Bears forum. Regardless of the fact that neither side of the proverbial fence is correct, we'll bicker back and forth like 4th graders for no reason at all...assuming the side with the most loud voices is winning. Happy posting.

What a ****** thing to say......

 

[X]

What a ****** thing to say......

how so?

 

[Flacco4Prez]

A sense of understanding that not all the prospects will not be around when the Cubs are competing. I think some fail to have that understanding here.

You cannot make up a projected lineup 4 years down the road made up of free agents, when nobody knows when and who will be free agents at a given time. Same goes for trades, therefore projected lineups generally come from within the organization. Otherwise it would be a projected lineup of 9 All-Stars which makes even less sense than using prospects

 

[patg006]

You cannot make up a projected lineup 4 years down the road made up of free agents, when nobody knows when and who will be free agents at a given time.

So in 2006 when forecasting the cubs. You should not have projected Soriano to be in the 2010 line up?

I don't get it.

But using prospects is fine, makes more sense than signing a guy for 6 years when you're projecting a 4 year line up.

 

[Flacco4Prez]

So in 2006 when forecasting the cubs. You should not have projected Soriano to be in the 2010 line up?

I don't get it.

But using prospects is fine, makes more sense than signing a guy for 6 years when you're projecting a 4 year line up.

How do you know who is going to be available in 2015 or 2016? Or do you just want to use FA's from 2013 and expect these 30 year olds all lead us to a WS when they are each 34+ in 2017?

 

[The Bandit]

So in 2006 when forecasting the cubs. You should not have projected Soriano to be in the 2010 line up?

I don't get it.

But using prospects is fine, makes more sense than signing a guy for 6 years when you're projecting a 4 year line up.

where the hell did you see anything that ever said anything even remotely close to this? I'm pretty sure that in 06 after we signed Sori, he was in a projected lineup till the end of his contract.

 

[TL1961]

A message from a couple of your old friends.....


Not so sure why the Cubs would seriously be interested in a young, expensive, 24 year old Tanaka. It appears the slurpers from this pathetic website and other active Cub forums, are now wanting, begging, and pleading to the front office to make this guy a Cub. Spend !!!! Spend !!!!! Spend !!!!!

But yet most of the same slurpers thought getting rid of a young, cost controlled, 24 year old in Andrew Cashner, (that just might have even better stuff than Tanaka) for an unproven and now below average first baseman was one of Boy Blunder's greatest moves ? I know how most must believe that talented young pitching can easily be replenished. Look how much the Hemmoroidys deal for Manhole'm was talked up.

Doesn't anyone remember the horrible contract of Soriano and how that has tied the Cub's hands and should never be repeated ? Look how far back that one contract alone has set us from being able to rebuild the ML team. I'm not sure this team or its fanbase could possibly stomach another contract like it. Jim Hendry is not with us any more. Can we also be sensitive to the renovations that are going to start someday ?

I hope if they do spend big and sign Tanaka. It is with the intent of getting him signed to flip for more propects this season, even at the age of 24. It would not be anything new and there is no way this team is going to compete in the near future. It will be a waste of money. If this FO was worried about pitching....They never would have traded Cashner, drafted Appel and Gray, and there would be NO COMFIRMED rumors of Shark being traded. Making the mistake of adding filler such as E-Jax likely would not have not ever happened.

The most expensive player, to this point, on the Cubs' payroll is playing for the Yankees. Just think of the return for Tanaka and what it would bring to the future.

Let me ask the hypocritical idiots one question.......Oh wait a minute.....Probably will not get an answer. What am I thinking.

So you hope they pay $20 million posting fee to flip him, therefore "buying" prospects. But you won't ***** when they spend $20 million on prospects? Meaning $20 million for them makes good sense.

So what team will trade prospects for the guy they themselves could sign? How would it make sense for them?

And you call others hypocritical? (Oh wait, that's not insulting enough - you called them "hypocritical idiots".)

And you suggest they should have drafted Appel AND Gray. I guess not getting two of the top three picks was another "blunder"?

 

[BearsWillWin]

So you hope they pay $20 million posting fee to flip him, therefore "buying" prospects. But you won't ***** when they spend $20 million on prospects? Meaning $20 million for them makes good sense.

I think you may have missed the sarcasm.

 

[chibears55]

I might be wrong but I think when posters put up a projected line up of prospects, its just to show who are the top players at each position in organizations. . ive seen baseball writers do the same thing every year when they write about teams top prospects. .its just projections..
obviously we all know a 25 man roster is built from minors, trades. and FAs..
what the cubs are doing now is building up what was a weak system and hopefully a few of those kids will become established every day players while also being able to have depth in the system to add on or trade if needed to improve the major league team..

the major FA signings will come once they establish who from their current mix of top prospects takes that next step and locks down a spot on the parent club.. then the
cubs will add the long term FAs where needed.

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[CSF77]

For real.

I'll agree that predicting past 2014 is sketchy at best. I for one though that Jackson would have been the CF in 2013.

It is only being real saying all wont make it.

But is it real saying none will make it?

Out of Baez, Bryant, Almora, Soler, Alcantara, Olt. If 2 make it. 2 are used to get a top end SP and 2 wash out they are ahead.

 

[Jntg4]

So in 2006 when forecasting the cubs. You should not have projected Soriano to be in the 2010 line up?

I don't get it.

But using prospects is fine, makes more sense than signing a guy for 6 years when you're projecting a 4 year line up.

If it was before the time we signed him, ya... after we signed him, of course he'd be in there, especially with that contract.

 

[Chris J]

Id say Soler is the one of the 4 that has the worst chance of making it to Wrigley. Either Cubs will trade him or he just doesnt pan out. Maybe another doesnt turn out but remember sometimes there are lower prospects that could hit a sparlk. Alcantara, Hanneman, Calderario, etc

 

[CSF77]

Id say Soler is the one of the 4 that has the worst chance of making it to Wrigley. Either Cubs will trade him or he just doesnt pan out. Maybe another doesnt turn out but remember sometimes there are lower prospects that could hit a sparlk. Alcantara, Hanneman, Calderario, etc

Fact you are even bringing up Candi's name (3rd-4th best 3B prospect on the team) shows a lacking of quality pitching in the system. Candi should be a 20-30 guy. Not a player brought up in conversation. That points to the lack of top tier pitching.

 

[Jntg4]

Fact you are even bringing up Candi's name (3rd-4th best 3B prospect on the team) shows a lacking of quality pitching in the system. Candi should be a 20-30 guy. Not a player brought up in conversation. That points to the lack of top tier pitching.

He said Calderario not Candelario

Jeimer, so great that nobody knows his name.

 

[CSF77]

He said Calderario not Candelario

Jeimer, so great that nobody knows his name.

That is why I used Candi...don't care to know about the 4th best 3B in the system.

 

[ChiSoxCity]

This front office has Cubs fans so whooped it's pathetic.

They have you guys thinking like small town dweebs with no vision beyond what Epstein and Ricketts spoon feeds you. Spending money is NOT bad when you're a major market club in the 3rd largest media market in the country! The last time the Cubs came close to a world series, they spent a considerable amount of money to get there. You let some idiot fan piss it away, but nevermind that. The Cubs have money to spend and holes virtually everywhere on the field. That is all that you as Cubs fans should be concerned about, not building hotels and a new McDonald's in Wriggley, and certainly not how many prospects down in the system who are YEARS away in some cases from contributing to ANY major league club, let alone the Cubs. This isn't St. Louis or Baltimore or Tampa Bay, so stop trying to act like them. It's embarrassing and disgraceful!

 

[dabynsky]

The Cubs were 12th in payroll when the Cubs the last time they were actually close to a World Series.

 

[Boobaby1]

The Cubs were 12th in payroll when the Cubs the last time they were actually close to a World Series.

Yeap! And they would be about that far down again even with Tanka and other free agents considering the amount of youth that is set to arrive. The same way that the Cubs paid Sammy and Alou but were able to offset their contracts with Big-Z and Prior.