Free Agent Target... Jenkins Replacement?

Bears Should Take a Chance on Mekhi Becton?


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Zeitler is 35 years old, how is he not only benefitting from having a great oline around him the same way people are claiming that Becton only was good because of the eagles oline?

How many times have the Bears been the team to sign some old tackle or guard looking to cash his retirement check... no thanks

Zeitler was arguably the best interior lineman on the lions. I personally don’t want him but he’s had a great 2 year stretch.

I’d 100% rather give him 6-8m for a year over paying this fucking lazy bum you want 15m for 3-4 years.
 

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Zeitler was arguably the best interior lineman on the lions. I personally don’t want him but he’s had a great 2 year stretch.

I’d 100% rather give him 6-8m for a year over paying this fucking lazy bum you want 15m for 3-4 years.
He was playing on the line with ragnow and sewell... you're telling me he was the best? He's been in the league 13yrs on 5 different teams but magically he is amazing on the lions?

You do know the lions can afford to pay him $6-$8M if he was that great for them... they aren't in "cap hell". He made $6M last year so why come play here for the same?
 

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There are a slew of names I'd want before him, both FA/trade-wise first, but you could do a lot worse. Age looks great. This past year he checked all boxes (with the luxury of playing next to a HOF OT), but...guy has trouble with injuries and he's not bringing the unit he played on or Lane Johnson with him.

Trey Smith, Dalton Risner (Vikes have plenty of cap space to keep him, but my guess is that if they do use the tag, it won't be this guy, it'll be Darnold), Patrick Mekari (Baltimore has to make a long-term decision between keeping him and Stanley with less-than-ideal capspace presently), or trading for Joe Thuney (may not be likely, but if KC is looking to salary dump to keep Smith in exchange for a late pick/conditional late pick that becomes mid-rounds based on games played) I'd look at before signing Beckton.
 

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There are a slew of names I'd want before him, both FA/trade-wise first, but you could do a lot worse. Age looks great. This past year he checked all boxes (with the luxury of playing next to a HOF OT), but...guy has trouble with injuries and he's not bringing the unit he played on or Lane Johnson with him.

Trey Smith, Dalton Risner (Vikes have plenty of cap space to keep him, but my guess is that if they do use the tag, it won't be this guy, it'll be Darnold), Patrick Mekari (Baltimore has to make a long-term decision between keeping him and Stanley with less-than-ideal capspace presently), or trading for Joe Thuney (may not be likely, but if KC is looking to salary dump to keep Smith in exchange for a late pick/conditional late pick that becomes mid-rounds based on games played) I'd look at before signing Beckton.
I don't think Trey Smith will be available and have read articles saying Kansas City will bring him back. The concept that being on philly is what made Becton have a good season seems like a pretty lazy narrative.

Even watching the superbowl up against Chris Jones he held his own and wasn't getting any help. I was looking forward to see how he held up and he basically made Chris Jones invisible up until Jones decided to fake a knee injury and sit on the bench rather than continue to get embarrassed like the rest of his teammates.

Mekari perhaps is an option, I doubt Risner is available, and why would we want 33 yo Thunney after watching him being spanked by Josh Sweat all game?
 

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The concept that being on philly is what made Becton have a good season seems like a pretty lazy narrative.

It's not a lazy narrative. Look at Becton in New York, where after his rookie year he couldn't stay healthy or block anybody and gets single-digit grades from PFF when Alijah Vera-Tucker wasn't next to him, he grades low when he can finish his last season in NY.

Then he goes and plays in-between a pro-bowl 25-year-old in Jurgens and a multi-time all-pro in Lane Johnson and all of a sudden, he looks like a wrecking machine, better than his rookie season metrically.

But by all means, assume he's not a product of being in an enviable spot.
Even watching the superbowl up against Chris Jones he held his own and wasn't getting any help. I was looking forward to see how he held up and he basically made Chris Jones invisible up until Jones decided to fake a knee injury and sit on the bench rather than continue to get embarrassed like the rest of his teammates.

Jones was constantly double-teamed for most of the game, and he lined up on the left-side 'b' gap because that's his role in Spags' defense, even before he got injured. He moved to the right side of the line over Becton in packages Mike Pennell came in.

The entire philly OL deserves credit for last night, but let's not gift one guy extra credit for tasks he wasn't doing. Beckton was on Wharton most of the game. And yes, he was fine even after he came back from his injury in the early 2nd.

Mekari perhaps is an option, I doubt Risner is available, and why would we want 33 yo Thunney after watching him being spanked by Josh Sweat all game?
I'd want Thuney because A--while he/the entire KC OL had a bad SuperBowl, he was an all-pro at multiple spots (started year at LG and after injury moved to LT) and excellent otherwise this year. B--KC will likely want to keep their 25 year old, and they kicked Thuney's money to this year while restructuring him in years' past. He's 26.7 mil against the cap per OTC, and the bears can afford to eat the money for 1 year, doing KC a favor and getting them the cap they need to keep Smith. C--yeah, he'll be 33, but he'd be a short stop-gap with positional flexibility and 33 with SB wins in NE and KC is more palatable than a guy like Kevin Zeitler who'll be 36, or Becton, who's still in his 20s but isn't playing LT, certainly not at an all-pro level. Theoretically, you buy low on the all-pro who brings experience in the playoffs/superbowl from 2 teams to the bears and fixes 1/3 interior OL spots on a conditional late-round pick. KC may not do that deal, but its 100% worth a phone call.

Mekari you'll know is available depending on what Baltimore does with Stanley. If they keep Stanley he'll be available.

Minnesota has enough cap space to keep Risner comfortably but they're not going to tag him. The bears would have to pay up and make him the first midnight deal of FA, but you weaken a division rival by stealing a very good LG.
 

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He was playing on the line with ragnow and sewell... you're telling me he was the best? He's been in the league 13yrs on 5 different teams but magically he is amazing on the lions?

You do know the lions can afford to pay him $6-$8M if he was that great for them... they aren't in "cap hell". He made $6M last year so why come play here for the same?

The guy you are creaming your pants over is playing next to amazing linemen too.

Zeitler has been a good player, not great, his entire career. If he stays healthy at least you'd know he's solid. The last two years are the best in his career and he was the best interior linemen for the lions last year.

Paying a guy off one year is totally smart, never hurt an NFL team before, especially not the bears.

I'd absolutely take zeitler on the cheap vs paying a boatload to a guy who was terrible until he wanted to get paid. He'll come to chicago and eat deep dish every other meal and balloon to 400 pounds.
 

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The guy you are creaming your pants over is playing next to amazing linemen too.

Zeitler has been a good player, not great, his entire career. If he stays healthy at least you'd know he's solid. The last two years are the best in his career and he was the best interior linemen for the lions last year.

Paying a guy off one year is totally smart, never hurt an NFL team before, especially not the bears.

I'd absolutely take zeitler on the cheap vs paying a boatload to a guy who was terrible until he wanted to get paid. He'll come to chicago and eat deep dish every other meal and balloon to 400 pounds.
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Signing a 35 year old and planning on him being the answer to protect a young developing QB is dumb.

If the eagles thought the guy was worth a shot at $4M last season and then he does a great job... along comes an idiot to say well he only did it because its the eagles... Then the eagles re-sign him to a long term deal and he becomes an all-pro.

This is why Roseman is smart and fans are dumb.
 

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1. Let's assume Trey Smith isn't getting moved after watching KC's oline in the superbowl.

2. Braxton "Bambi legs" Jones at his best is average and hasn't been healthy in back to back seasons. Kiran is basically a backup of a guy that should be a backup.

3. This draft doesnt have that many great options for left tackle to begin with, definitely not beyond round one.

So you are basically suggesting they roll the dice hoping Braxton Jones has a healthy breakout year protecting Caleb's blind side?

I’m fine with Braxton, kiran, and another rookie. Braxton is fine at LT when healthy. If the leg isn’t healing right, then that could change things, but like you said, there’s not a lot of good options at LT. Even in round 1 I don’t like any of the options…and I don’t think smith will be back in KC. He’s going to be a bear.
 

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I’m fine with Braxton, kiran, and another rookie. Braxton is fine at LT when healthy. If the leg isn’t healing right, then that could change things, but like you said, there’s not a lot of good options at LT. Even in round 1 I don’t like any of the options…and I don’t think smith will be back in KC. He’s going to be a bear.

Sports Illustrated: Trey Smithto the Bears doesnt look likely

"The value of the tag for Smith exceeds $25 million but that's not viewed as too high for Kansas City if they did want to use a tag-and-trade. Nor is the cap itself a problem because they have some other contracts capable of being restructured, or other linemen who might be more expendable."
 

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Signing a 35 year old and planning on him being the answer to protect a young developing QB is dumb.

If the eagles thought the guy was worth a shot at $4M last season and then he does a great job... along comes an idiot to say well he only did it because its the eagles... Then the eagles re-sign him to a long term deal and he becomes an all-pro.

This is why Roseman is smart and fans are dumb.
But Zeitler would be an answer to protecting a young QB. It may not be the answer you’d prefer, but it is an answer.

Signing Zeitler provides stability to the OL. Is he a stop-gap option? Sure. But he can man the RG spot for 2 years while the rest of the OL gets solidified.

And, one could argue he’s been as good if not better than Trey Smith the last few years and would cost much less.

So yes, signing Zeitler would be a very good answer, imo.
 

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But Zeitler would be an answer to protecting a young QB. It may not be the answer you’d prefer, but it is an answer.

Signing Zeitler provides stability to the OL. Is he a stop-gap option? Sure. But he can man the RG spot for 2 years while the rest of the OL gets solidified.

And, one could argue he’s been as good if not better than Trey Smith the last few years and would cost much less.

So yes, signing Zeitler would be a very good answer, imo.
People yawning at zeitler signing aren't bright. He's been really good. He'd allow you to have additional money to allocate to the rest of the OL/DL. And he is a great stop gap that allows you to draft guys this year and next to become his eventual replacement while developing behind him.

There's a few different paths to building out the lines this offseason and there's 0 reason to scoff at zeitler as one of them unless you have mental deficiencies
 

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But Zeitler would be an answer to protecting a young QB. It may not be the answer you’d prefer, but it is an answer.

Signing Zeitler provides stability to the OL. Is he a stop-gap option? Sure. But he can man the RG spot for 2 years while the rest of the OL gets solidified.

And, one could argue he’s been as good if not better than Trey Smith the last few years and would cost much less.

So yes, signing Zeitler would be a very good answer, imo.
Wow. Planning on Zeitler to play until he is 37 is an awesome plan.
 

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Wow. Planning on Zeitler to play until he is 37 is an awesome plan.
You do realize Smith may not hit FA, right? And that Zeitler has probably even outplayed him the last few years?

Jesus, there are probably 4 out of 5 spots on the OL that need to be upgraded. If you were hoping they could replace all 4 with either stud 25 year-old FAs and blue chip draft prospects in one offseason, you may be disappointed. And just as a reminder, DL is just as big of a weakness as OL is, imo.

Sign Zeitler. Draft LG early. Call NO and see if they want to trade McCoy so they can clear up cap. Hell, maybe even draft a guy like Simmons to take over LT.

What’s your plan?
 

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I don't think Trey Smith will be available and have read articles saying Kansas City will bring him back. The concept that being on philly is what made Becton have a good season seems like a pretty lazy narrative.

Even watching the superbowl up against Chris Jones he held his own and wasn't getting any help. I was looking forward to see how he held up and he basically made Chris Jones invisible up until Jones decided to fake a knee injury and sit on the bench rather than continue to get embarrassed like the rest of his teammates.

Mekari perhaps is an option, I doubt Risner is available, and why would we want 33 yo Thunney after watching him being spanked by Josh Sweat all game?
I don't think it's his play that's keeping people from wanting him because the guy is hella talented, it's the injury issues and the character issues that have people worried about him. Super talented guy though.
 
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The guy you are creaming your pants over is playing next to amazing linemen too.

Zeitler has been a good player, not great, his entire career. If he stays healthy at least you'd know he's solid. The last two years are the best in his career and he was the best interior linemen for the lions last year.

Paying a guy off one year is totally smart, never hurt an NFL team before, especially not the bears.

I'd absolutely take zeitler on the cheap vs paying a boatload to a guy who was terrible until he wanted to get paid. He'll come to chicago and eat deep dish every other meal and balloon to 400 pounds.

Well I fucking hope the plan is to play him next to amazing lineman here too.
 

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I think where we're at, you need to pay more for certainty. I wouldn't count on Becton to be very good outside of Philly's environment there after playing well in a contract year. Good for him but I'd rather pay more for a guy like Trey Smith or a guy who's more established at the position like James Daniels (as just one example).
 

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I think where we're at, you need to pay more for certainty. I wouldn't count on Becton to be very good outside of Philly's environment there after playing well in a contract year. Good for him but I'd rather pay more for a guy like Trey Smith or a guy who's more established at the position like James Daniels (as just one example).

Maybe, but you also get elite size and cold weather proof with Becton.

The Jets are such a disgrace you throw it out and stake your claim with recency bias.

I also like that he used the criticism in New York and wore t-shirts, showing me fight and edge, even if he was doomed there like everyone else who has been a Jet.

The plan is to give him support here like he had in Philly, if not this year certainly over the course of his contract.

He just proved he can be a puzzle piece.
 

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