Friend Advice

[brett05]

Now when you tell him this he may make an attempt to make you feel guilty about not believing or throw out some scripture to you about burning in hell. That's your opportunity to say "listen, I respect your views so please respect mine. I would rather not speak about religion at all when we hang out." If he can't handle that then that's on him. Regardless of what happens it'll be off your mind, a quite frankly you should be worried about how you feel first.

Wait, This respect most work both ways. He should absolutely honor your beliefs, but you need to honor his beliefs as well and him sharing his faith is his belief. Rejecting that becomes your issue just as him rejecting you because you do not believe what he believes would be on him.

 

[brett05]

Just read, so happy for you Code and for your friend.

 

[remydat]

Wait, This respect most work both ways. He should absolutely honor your beliefs, but you need to honor his beliefs as well and him sharing his faith is his belief. Rejecting that becomes your issue just as him rejecting you because you do not believe what he believes would be on him.

Lol, um no, if someone doesn't want another person to share their beliefs, they should not be forced to do so as a sign of respect. Further, Jesus said to do unto others as you would have them do unto you not as they did unto you.

A Christian claims to live under the above code not a non-Christian. While it would great if it worked both ways, the onus is on a Christian to conduct themselves in a Christ-like manner regardless of how others treat them because that is what they signed up for. Anyone can be respectful of others when it is reciprocated. A Christian's calling is to be better than everyone else not the same.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Lol, um no, if someone doesn't want another person to share their beliefs, they should not be forced to do so as a sign of respect. Further, Jesus said to do unto others as you would have them do unto you not as they did unto you.

A Christian claims to live under the above code not a non-Christian. While it would great if it worked both ways, the onus is on a Christian to conduct themselves in a Christ-like manner regardless of how others treat them because that is what they signed up for. Anyone can be respectful of others when it is reciprocated. A Christian's calling is to be better than everyone else not the same.

So only Christians have to respect anyone else's difference of beliefs? Man...people are jerks

 

[remydat]

So only Christians have to respect anyone else's difference of beliefs? Man...people are jerks

No. There are two different things I am saying.

1. No one is obligated to listen to someone talk about their faith and it is not a sign of disrespect if someone doesn't want to hear about someone else's faith.

2. While it would be great if everyone respects everyone else, it is Christians that have a religious obligation imposed on them by their savior to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Therefore, while I may be a dick if I don't respect you, as an agnostic, I am not claiming to be following a savior who requires me to not be a dick. That is the distinction. My being a dick doesn't violate any code I claim to be living by. You being a dick violates a tenant of your faith. I should add that I presume other religions also have similar tenants.

 

[clonetrooper264]

No. There are two different things I am saying.

1. No one is obligated to listen to someone talk about their faith and it is not a sign of disrespect if someone doesn't want to hear about someone else's faith.

2. While it would be great if everyone respects everyone else, it is Christians that have a religious obligation imposed on them by their savior to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Therefore, while I may be a dick if I don't respect you, as an agnostic, I am not claiming to be following a savior who requires me to not be a dick. That is the distinction. My being a dick doesn't violate any code I claim to be living by. You being a dick violates a tenant of your faith. I should add that I presume other religions also have similar tenants.

lol it had originally sounded sort of like anyone can just be a dick to whoever they disagree with and it's fine. Except Christians of course (and technically, that part is true so I have no issue with that).

 

[remydat]

Yes I will admit my word choice was perhaps a bit rough which I could see how you interpreted it that way.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I have no problem discussing faith with my friend(mine and his beliefs), but I understand what Remy is saying. There's no obligation for me to discuss mine as well as listen to his.

And,yea, definitely glad it worked out. Like I said, if I really took everything into consideration, I shouldn't have been too worried. We've been friends a long time.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

At least you two can still be friends. Glad you wont have to kill him in his sleep now.

Always have a plan B.