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He's been MIA and AWOL since Game 1
Game 4 IGT: Chicago Bulls vs Cleveland Cavs (Bulls lead series 2-1) 2:30PM CDT ABC
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Kind of sucks that Blatt didn't have that technical called against him for trying to call a TO after Rose tied the game.
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You can't seriously be blaming Rose for that loss....
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I kinda do yes ,yeh you look at the stats he scored loads of points but so what?? bottom line we lost ,he is the most influential player on the court ,he holds the ball more then anyone else ,he is the point guard ,the "brains" of the team ,the decision maker for what goes on...Now if you look at this from this perspective what do you see? Did we play like an organized team yesterday? was their good balance of possession between players? Did we share the ball enough? we had a disgraceful amount of assists (only 12 !!) ,we wasted time on offence resorting to last minute shots way too many times..this is the face of a losing scared team ,overall Thibs is responsible but on the court i'm looking for my main man which is Rose ,and he didn't deliver leadership nor brains yesterday.
The way i see it every time a PG scores more then 20 points and has less then 5 assists he isn't' doing his job.
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Rose was not the problem yesterday although he did take a very costly 3...but thibs could take part of that blame for not drawing up something better than Dunleavy coming off a screen
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You do know if Niko, Dunleavy, Noah, and Gibson make more shots/layups then Rose probably has like 10 assists and we win by double digits and no one is bitching?
The poor shooting between Niko and Dunleavy especially did us in. I'll excuse Noah because we expect that completely.
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ive noticed Rose doesn't even pass to Noah anymore...about time he got smart and started freezing him out
seen allot of times yesterday where Noah called for the ball (why?) and Rose would ignore him
seen allot of times yesterday where Noah called for the ball (why?) and Rose would ignore him
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Noah wants to play point center.
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every possession with that ends up a bail out
Noah receives ball > stands there and holds it trying to get a back door pass > fails > passes it off to somebody with 6 left > player tries and struggles to create space/get a lane to the hoop > launches shot
terrible offense
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Mmhmm.. Noah needs to play pick and roll honestly. Instead of hanging around the 3 point line. He should only come up there for help if a player is trapped per say.
It doesn't entirely matter to me, I don't think he's been much of a problem the past two games.
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Snell and Noah pick and roll = Noah scored at least twice. Noah at point center = nothing. I think the pick and roll is a much better option, especially since Cleveland is not guarding Noah. He was able to get dunks off those plays. More of that, less of the point center.
Even with the ridiculous free throw differential, Blatt not getting a tech, the Cavs getting a free timeout to draw up a play and some extra time to run it, and all of the other random things that anyone would think the refs did to screw us, we probably still would've won if we didn't go through a dumb scoring drought twice. We screwed ourselves by not being able to put the ball in the basket for 7 minutes. It can't happen again.
Even with the ridiculous free throw differential, Blatt not getting a tech, the Cavs getting a free timeout to draw up a play and some extra time to run it, and all of the other random things that anyone would think the refs did to screw us, we probably still would've won if we didn't go through a dumb scoring drought twice. We screwed ourselves by not being able to put the ball in the basket for 7 minutes. It can't happen again.
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he was good in the first half but i don't remember much out of him in the 2nd
i think he had a dunk but had some terrible misses that hurt (2 failed put backs) and defensively he didn't seem as active....its like he has a time limit on his productiveness then he just gets in the way
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Yep, scoring droughts against LeBron have been common since we've played him in the playoffs though starting in 2010. This 4th quarter outside of the frantic comeback in the last 3 minutes has been characteristic of this team against LeBron for sure. Its quite ridiculous actually. It does always seem like with these two teams playing you can NEVER count the other one out. Though the Bulls are more likely to fall completely behind more so than Cleveland.
I don't really care as much about the Blatt shit as others. Refs didnt' see him, no player motioned the timeout signal either and Tyronne Lue stopped Blatt fairly quickly.
If we get better shooting out of Niko and Dunleavy, we're in great shape. IF Gasol is back and gets back to his fundamentals, we're also in great shape. Key is the guys need to play their games and get what they've been good at all season long.
Bulls really need to take the next game. Irving is basically useless the rest of the series and Cleveland keeps getting guys with nagging injuries, who are obviously going to play, but the longer the series goes the worse it is for them, especially with little rest.
The Bulls aren't a whole lot better though in Gasol and Gibson getting the injuries. Gibson will also play, but who knows how long until those injuries add up again.
Game 5 keys:
-Jump shooters hit their open shots.. Dunleavy and Niko inparticular
-Get to the free throw line. Force the issue. Butler needs to be more aggressive driving to the hoop, even if he is tired as hell.
-If Gasol is back, he's gotta be used a lot of offense. If his game on offense is limited, Gibson/Niko need to take over his role, because Gasol cannot play defense.
-Rose has to have a third straight great game
-Buckets has to continue to force LeBron into jump shots. LeBron is not shooting well at all in the playoffs
-Perimeter defense key again. Cleveland shot awful from 3 in last game, and well I wouldn't be surprised if they're hot again in Game 5.
I feel like there are way too many keys for the Bulls.
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Noah had two dunks in the game (same play basically where he blew that layup in Game 1, this time he dunked the damn ball). He had a missed putback on a Rose layup miss...And then he had a few awful shot/layup attempts towards the hoop (This shit I don't mind, he's gotta try it to keep the defense honest).
2nd half, Noah was definitely getting winded though.
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Yeah I don't really care about the Blatt thing that much. He made a mistake, but he wasn't seen so whatever. And even with all the stuff at the end, Lebron could've still missed the shot and maybe we win in OT who knows?
Imo it's basically must win the rest of the way. I don't see us winning a game 7 in Cleveland even if Kyrie is playing on one leg. The fact that he can get to the line 8 times on one foot while Rose only got 7 attempts while attacking far more than Kyrie did tells the story there. I don't blame the refs, but we're definitely not getting the benefit of the doubt on shots around the rim. I think at one point the Cavs had like 20 free throws to our 8 or something. That's dumb. I don't buy that Cleveland is that much more aggressive attacking the basket. And if that is the case, the lack of fouls the Bulls get is probably a factor. Not an excuse, but it is a hindrance.
I'd simplify the keys to the game as
-Shoot better
-Keep the turnovers low
-Force the refs to give you free throws
-Keep doing what you're doing defensively
Idk if that last one is really a key, but I figured I'd mention it anyway.
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Everyone in the 2nd half was dead.
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Agree.. And yeah I don't know why Irving has gotten so many calls in this series.
As with Cleveland, expect Shumpert to guard Rose the rest of the series... if Shumpert can still afloat. He's also on that injury list.
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Someone should just knee him in the groin
Shumpert guarding Rose helped the Cavs hide Kyrie a lot. Dunleavy can't do enough off the dribble to take advantage of Kyrie. However, running some Ray Allen/Rip Hamilton type sets for Dunleavy with Kyrie on him may expose Kyrie. Worth at least a few possessions trying that. Honestly I think it wouldn't have been a big deal if Niko and Dunleavy had just hit a couple more shots.
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Well as I've said in this thread, Niko, Dunleavy making more of their shots and we win by double digits. You could probably say the same about the Cavs though in their 3 point misses.Someone should just knee him in the groin
Shumpert guarding Rose helped the Cavs hide Kyrie a lot. Dunleavy can't do enough off the dribble to take advantage of Kyrie. However, running some Ray Allen/Rip Hamilton type sets for Dunleavy with Kyrie on him may expose Kyrie. Worth at least a few possessions trying that. Honestly I think it wouldn't have been a big deal if Niko and Dunleavy had just hit a couple more shots.
But yeah, the Bulls need to expose the hell out of Irving wherever he is on the court. If Dunleavy can't do it, need to put Snell in there a lot quicker as he can actually drive to the hoop. The idea will be to force Irving into a really tough situation. Basically what the Detroit Pistons did to Ben Gordon in the 2007 Semifinals. They abused the shit out of him.
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Btw it looks like Irving now has a hamstring and hip injury in addition to his foot injury.
If that is the case, this series has just basically become LeBron and his 3 point shooters vs the Bulls.
If that is the case, this series has just basically become LeBron and his 3 point shooters vs the Bulls.