Game 6 IGT: Phoenix Coyotes @ Chicago Blackhawks

[Capt. Serious]

nice "momentum" Savvy. how'd that work out from the Toews OT goal?

 

[nwfisch]

It wasn't my IGT

 

[Popinski Soda]

no we didnt

We got to Game 6, they only got to Game 5.

 

[Heisenberg]

K, it ends here. For real. It was a alright season. Long summer ahead.

Gotta upgrade the goalie, get rid of Stalberg.

oh hey look!

 

[DewsSox79]

this series showed a lack of defense, depth on the lines, and once again a goalie problem.

 

[RockyRider]

An outsider's perspective:

I have seen a few people in here say that the Coyotes were just the better team. No they weren't. Chicago created way more shots, way more chances and way more excitement. The Blackhawks outplayed the Coyotes, but Smith way outplayed Crawford. That's what made the difference.

Some of you have been calling for Crawford to be gone. I've even seen it suggested that Luongo might be your man. I don't think so. Luongo has a no trade clause. If management wanted to move Luongo, any trade would have to be approved by him. He probably wouldn't accept a trade to Chicago. He'd want to go to Florida or Tampa where his home is. But is anyone gonna want to take oh his contract which still has ten years on it? You're more likely to get Schneider. But he'll cost ya! I guess we'll see.

 

[DewsSox79]

An outsider's perspective:

I have seen a few people in here say that the Coyotes were just the better team. No they weren't. Chicago created way more shots, way more chances and way more excitement. The Blackhawks outplayed the Coyotes, but Smith way outplayed Crawford. That's what made the difference.

Some of you have been calling for Crawford to be gone. I've even seen it suggested that Luongo might be your man. I don't think so. Luongo has a no trade clause. If management wanted to move Luongo, any trade would have to be approved by him. He probably wouldn't accept a trade to Chicago. He'd want to go to Florida or Tampa where his home is. But is anyone gonna want to take oh his contract which still has ten years on it? You're more likely to get Schneider. But he'll cost ya! I guess we'll see.

If they at all hint that there will be competition and that Schnieder might be there guy he will want out, and I doubt he denies a chance to play in chicago. I just dont see the two sides making a deal where Luongo could face the nucks in the playoffs and his contract sucks ass.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

Shots were 241 to 159.

Powerplay:
4/19, 21%
1/19, 5%

5 games were decided by 1 goal. Crawford gave up 2 horrible goals.




Bad power play, bad goal tending. Same story ALL YEAR.

 

[RockyRider]

Like X said the MVP of the series is Raffi Torres.

Best they could have ever done was knockout Hossa.

Does this mean the MVP of the Canucks-Kings series was Duncan Keith?

 

[Diehardfan]

Does this mean the MVP of the Canucks-Kings series was Duncan Keith?

Not even close. Little Danny Sweets got his noggin wacked because for once in his life he actually tried to hit someone and made the mistake of going high on Keith. If he would've just played his normal game, keith would have never gone after him. Hossa did nothing but make the mistake of keeping his head down when there was a lunatic on the ice.

 

[nwfisch]

Does this mean the MVP of the Canucks-Kings series was Duncan Keith?

:nope:

If people honestly believe that Keith was trying to hurt Sedin or vice versa

 

[RockyRider]

Not even close. Little Danny Sweets got his noggin wacked because for once in his life he actually tried to hit someone and made the mistake of going high on Keith. If he would've just played his normal game, keith would have never gone after him. Hossa did nothing but make the mistake of keeping his head down when there was a lunatic on the ice.

Here we go again...

Yes, Daniel hit Keith high. But it wasn't a nasty hit by any means. Keith wasn't injured on the play. All he was was annoyed. But if Keith can't control his temper better than that, maybe he should have to stay in for recess time and have to skip his milk and cookies.

Hossa was hurt because Torres' hit was wreckless and dangerous. Sedin was hurt because Keith intended to hurt him. If Keith had hit Daniel the way Daniel hit him, or the way Brown hit Henrik, that's fair game. But that pussy Keith directly target Daniel's chin with his elbow pad instead of engaging him with a hard and proper hockey play. Keith is a fine defenseman, but I can promise you he lost a lot of respect with guys around the league with that sucker move. There is nothing more pussy than to hit a guy who doesn't see it coming.

Torres' hit was terrible and his suspension was justified, but it would be difficult in Torres' case to prove intent to injure. With Keith's case, his intent is pretty obvious. And why with this Keith's intent? Because he didn't like getting hit. Well, if he doesn't like getting hit, maybe hockey isn't the game for him. He might like ping pong. Or at least until someone hits him with the ball so he throws his paddle at them when they're not looking.

Some people tried to be funny by asking me if I was going to riot after Vancouver was eliminated. I don't live in Vancouver. I live in the Penticton, British Columbia area. The city of Penticton is Duncan Keith's hometown. Of course we are Canuck fans here, but Duncan Keith has always been a favourite here too. There was a huge turn out when he brought the Cup home a couple years ago after you guys won it. But I am thinking that Keith is not going to be getting such a warm welcome in his hometown this summer. That's the word on the street around here. Like I say, he really did lose a lot of respect with such a sucker move.

 

[nwfisch]

Here we go again...

Yes, Daniel hit Keith high. But it wasn't a nasty hit by any means. Keith wasn't injured on the play. All he was was annoyed. But if Keith can't control his temper better than that, maybe he should have to stay in for recess time and have to skip his milk and cookies.

Hossa was hurt because Torres' hit was wreckless and dangerous. Sedin was hurt because Keith intended to hurt him. If Keith had hit Daniel the way Daniel hit him, or the way Brown hit Henrik, that's fair game. But that pussy Keith directly target Daniel's chin with his elbow pad instead of engaging him with a hard and proper hockey play. Keith is a fine defenseman, but I can promise you he lost a lot of respect with guys around the league with that sucker move. There is nothing more pussy than to hit a guy who doesn't see it coming.

Torres' hit was terrible and his suspension was justified, but it would be difficult in Torres' case to prove intent to injure. With Keith's case, his intent is pretty obvious. And why with this Keith's intent? Because he didn't like getting hit. Well, if he doesn't like getting hit, maybe hockey isn't the game for him. He might like ping pong. Or at least until someone hits him with the ball so he throws his paddle at them when they're not looking.

Some people tried to be funny by asking me if I was going to riot after Vancouver was eliminated. I don't live in Vancouver. I live in the Penticton, British Columbia area. The city of Penticton is Duncan Keith's hometown. Of course we are Canuck fans here, but Duncan Keith has always been a favourite here too. There was a huge turn out when he brought the Cup home a couple years ago after you guys won it. But I am thinking that Keith is not going to be getting such a warm welcome in his hometown this summer. That's the word on the street around here. Like I say, he really did lose a lot of respect with such a sucker move.

Maybe you can burn down that city when he comes back

If people honestly believe that Keith wanted to give Sedin a concussion

 

[HawkWriter]

^^^ I'm pretty sure Keith was trying to do something to Sedin, injury/revenge could easily be on the list. He certainly wasn't going for a clean legal check. I mean, he lead with the elbow to the head of a guy when the puck wasn't near him. It was a bad hit, he was a first time offender and got 5 games, next time he won't be so lucky and hopefully we don't see Keith go there again.

 

[nwfisch]

^^^^^^

A payback hit and a hit to cause injury are two completely different things.

If Keith's intent was to cause injury, so be it. I don't see it that way in my eyes, but my eyes have been known to lie.

 

[RockyRider]

Maybe you can burn down that city when he comes back

If people honestly believe that Keith wanted to give Sedin a concussion

nwfisch, what do you believe Keith's intent was?

 

[nwfisch]

nwfisch, what do you believe Keith's intent was?

I believe it was an intent of fear, and to retaliate. If it was to cause injury, I would certainly be disappointed in Keith as well.

 

[RockyRider]

I believe it was an intent of fear, and to retaliate. If it was to cause injury, I would certainly be disappointed in Keith as well.

One thing we can both agree on, I hope, is that Keith's elbow had nothing to do with making a hockey play. It wasn't a check. The puck was no where near. Daniel never touched the puck. He wasn't trying to take Daniel out of the play. He was just trying to take Daniel out.

Torres' hit was late and off his feet and made contact with the head. It was a poor attempt, but it was an attempt to make a hockey play.

It would be interesting to know how many games of suspension that Torres hit would have gotten if it had been delivered by someone like Kyle Chipchura, who I believe has no history of league discipline. Of course, Torres did not get such a long suspension due to the severity of the hit, but rather due to his previous history of league discipline.

 

[DMelt36]

One thing we can both agree on, I hope, it that Keith's elbow had nothing to do with making a hockey play. It wasn't a check. The puck was no where near. Daniel never touched the puck. He wasn't trying to take Daniel out of the play. He was just trying to take Daniel out.

Torres' hit was late and off his feet and made contact with the head. It was a poor attempt, but it was an attempt to make a hockey play.

It would be interesting to know how many games of suspension that Torres hit would have gotten if it had been delivered by someone like Kyle Chipchura, who I believe has no history of league discipline. Of course, Torres did not get such a long suspension due to the severity of the hit, but rather due to his previous history of league discipline.

Implying that you know about the intent of the players' hits would also imply that you know what they were thinking at the time of the play--and you simply cannot do that.

You could make arguments that each was "a hockey play" and that each was a malicious intent to injure. I think those arguments are irrelevant.

Both hits are dirty. Both hits have no place in the game. Both players received adequate punishments, based on their prior records. I don't see what's left to debate about these.

 

[Captain Iago]

Having seen how both of those hits have unfolded, I don't think anyone in their right mind could make a strong argument that either one of those hits were hockey plays.

It's pretty obvious Keith wanted revenge for Daniel's cheap shot that wasn't called and targeted his head with a high elbow. Bad.

It's pretty obvious Torres wanted to knock Hossa out cold since he saw the puck whiz by and still chose to target his shoulder into his head. Bad.