give Nagy credit for not completely throwing Mitch under bus

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he's hinted at it and obviously we all knew Mitch just wasn't able to process stuff fast enough, but I do give some credit to Nagy for staying professional and not referring to Mitch in terms of how much better and more excited he is about Fields. there were some questions trying to get him to compare the 2 and he never took the bait. at least from what i heard. it'd be so easy for him to throw some shade on Mitch "i didn't pick him and wouldn't have cause he's so raw, it was really hard to implement anything advanced we had to keep it super simple".
 

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I also remember when Foles said Nagy and his plays were stupid....taking too long to develop
Foles said he knew when the play comes in that he wouldn’t have enough time to get the play off. He also roasted Nagy on the sidelines for not continuing to push the temp in the red zone when the defense was on its heels and the bears were marching. Instead Nagy brought in a different personnel groupings allowing the defense to sub, and the bears didn’t score a TD. Nagy wanted to get in one of his genius red zone play calls in and shockingly it didn’t work.

Hes very good at being politically correct and not throwing players under the bus so not surprising here.
 

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I also remember when Foles said Nagy and his plays were stupid....taking too long to develop
right i think Nagy deserved some of blame for sure. finally figured out later in year we had to run ball more we didn't have personnel to throw ball all over all game.

one thing i'll say is i don't think our O-line and WR corps has changed a ton....or improved a ton. Jenkins is great but other new guys who knows. WR or TE we didn't do anything hardly. added Goodwin. drafted Newsome. ok maybe 4th/5th WRs?

i guess getting Cohen back and Kmet in 2nd year could be a big boost. but always will be injuries.

i think Fields will have to take off and run more than we're thinking. more than Nagy would hope.
 

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right i think Nagy deserved some of blame for sure. finally figured out later in year we had to run ball more we didn't have personnel to throw ball all over all game.

one thing i'll say is i don't think our O-line and WR corps has changed a ton....or improved a ton. Jenkins is great but other new guys who knows. WR or TE we didn't do anything hardly. added Goodwin. drafted Newsome. ok maybe 4th/5th WRs?

i guess getting Cohen back and Kmet in 2nd year could be a big boost. but always will be injuries.

i think Fields will have to take off and run more than we're thinking. more than Nagy would hope.
How do you “finally figure out” half way into year 3 that you need to run the ball more? Anyone with a brain should have figured that out long before season 3 lol…I mean literally the entire fanbase recognized the issues in season 2. Nagy has a hard time learning from his mistakes or admitting he makes them.
 

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right i think Nagy deserved some of blame for sure. finally figured out later in year we had to run ball more we didn't have personnel to throw ball all over all game.

one thing i'll say is i don't think our O-line and WR corps has changed a ton....or improved a ton. Jenkins is great but other new guys who knows. WR or TE we didn't do anything hardly. added Goodwin. drafted Newsome. ok maybe 4th/5th WRs?

i guess getting Cohen back and Kmet in 2nd year could be a big boost. but always will be injuries.

i think Fields will have to take off and run more than we're thinking. more than Nagy would hope.

Nagy is just an idiot who thinks he’s playing ArenaBowl 2008 on PS2
 

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"I took the timeout when we had them on their heels, down there in the redzone.. we just had a play that we really liked there, that looked good all week in practice ... but just didn't get it done. That's one we'd like to have back for sure.."

"Nah, I dont think using timeouts there on that last drive of the half was an option. I mean we werent really moving the ball well up to that point, we really didnt want to risk another 3 and out .. giving them another possession before the half, right?"
 
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it'd be so easy for him to throw some shade on Mitch "i didn't pick him and wouldn't have cause he's so raw, it was really hard to implement anything advanced we had to keep it super simple".

Literally nobody would ever make such a statement, especially a head coach. Idk what you mean it'd be easy to throw him under the bus. You keep it professional, you don't throw anyone under the bus, this is common practice.
 

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I give credit to Nagy for realizing he sucked at play calling and gave it up to someone that has the ability to do it well moving forward. It takes a man to admit his intellectual limitation and not letting his ego get in the way of the success of the team. Glad he isn't such a small petty man that his ego requires demoting Lazor from playcaller.
 
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I give credit to Nagy for realizing he sucked at play calling and gave it up to someone that has the ability to do it well moving forward. It takes a man to admit his intellectual limitation and not letting his ego get in the way of the success of the team. Glad he isn't such a small petty man that his ego requires demoting Lazor from playcaller.
wait till you realize he didn't really give up playcalling and will likely do the playcalling this year.
 

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I give credit to Nagy for realizing he sucked at play calling and gave it up to someone that has the ability to do it well moving forward. It takes a man to admit his intellectual limitation and not letting his ego get in the way of the success of the team. Glad he isn't such a small petty man that his ego requires demoting Lazor from playcaller.
I have news for you, my friend ..

 

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How do you throw a guy under the bus when he was responsible for most of your wins and saving your job anyway?

Mitch deserves just as much credit for Nagy's record as Nagy..
Have you watched Bears football the past 3 years?
 

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Seriously.

Mitch's accuracy issues were a major problem, but Nagy was just as responsible for the shitshow on offense in 2019 and 2020.

The guy has to have one of the biggest ego's among nfl coaches.
go rewatch the offense in 2019 and see how many times Mitch air mailed Miller for TDs. he hasn’t been running his offense since 2018.

maybe he does have a big ego, maybe he doesn’t, but he sure as shit was dealing with horse shit at QB and OL. this is his year to sink or swim.
 

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Have you watched Bears football the past 3 years?
Tell me what I'm missing..

I think they're both, at least, equally responsible for any successes and failures this offense has had during Nagy's tenure.
 

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How do you “finally figure out” half way into year 3 that you need to run the ball more? Anyone with a brain should have figured that out long before season 3 lol…I mean literally the entire fanbase recognized the issues in season 2. Nagy has a hard time learning from his mistakes or admitting he makes them.

Agreed.

I give credit to Nagy for realizing he sucked at play calling and gave it up to someone that has the ability to do it well moving forward. It takes a man to admit his intellectual limitation and not letting his ego get in the way of the success of the team. Glad he isn't such a small petty man that his ego requires demoting Lazor from playcaller.

To both points above, we're here talking about Nagy being limited by Mitch....wasn't he also highly limited by the OL?? Leno/Massie/backups sucked. It picked up once playing lesser opponents AND with Lasor calling plays AND once Sam Mustipher came in and started taking charge. It took all 3 for the run game to finally take shape.

Hard to give Nagy credit for the late success of those 3 factors, but good news is that 2 will continue. Schedule gets harder. Actually, make that 1 thing. Nags is retaking play-calling duties again. hmmm.

At lease Fields eventually. ?‍♂️
 

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Foles said he knew when the play comes in that he wouldn’t have enough time to get the play off. He also roasted Nagy on the sidelines for not continuing to push the temp in the red zone when the defense was on its heels and the bears were marching. Instead Nagy brought in a different personnel groupings allowing the defense to sub, and the bears didn’t score a TD. Nagy wanted to get in one of his genius red zone play calls in and shockingly it didn’t work.

Hes very good at being politically correct and not throwing players under the bus so not surprising here.
Good plays but not that good about knowing when to call them or sequence. Imagine what a good OL plus a QB that can process AND buy time might do for him.
 

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Tell me what I'm missing..

I think they're both, at least, equally responsible for any successes and failures this offense has had during Nagy's tenure.
Or they both were along for the ride because they’ve had defenses that ranked 1, 4 and 14
 

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