Gray, Appel, or Bryant?

[KBisBack!]

He had more homeruns than 200 teams in college baseball.

He probably played against weaker competition than 200 teams in college baseball also.

I am sure Jeff Ledbetter hit more homeruns than a lot of college teams when he hit 42 for Florida State in 1982. I will be sure to check out his plaque the next time I am in Cooperstown.

 

[SilenceS]

He probably played against weaker competition than 200 teams in college baseball also.

I am sure Jeff Ledbetter hit more homeruns than a lot of college teams when he hit 42 for Florida State in 1982. I will be sure to check out his plaque the next time I am in Cooperstown.

Lol, I will check Grays plaque in the hall soon as well. Appel was 1. Gray lost luster with me later in the process because even though his FB is impressive. His secondary pitches are not consistent. I find Bryant to actually be safer than Gray with Appel above them all.

 

[The Bandit]

I don't have a problem with the pick, I wanted Appel and since Houston shocked the world and took him it was either Bryant or Gray, Gray idk if I'd want, ady mixed with increased speed and less consistent secondary pitches meh get the big bat at a weak position, literally the weakest position in the teams system.

 

[Boobaby1]

Found this on the internet regarding KB..............Kris Bryant that is.

Illustrates his strengths, weaknesses, floor and ceiling by various people and scouts, and there is a video at the bottom to boot.

Interesting in my opinion.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2013-m...-draft-profile-kris-bryant-3b-1b-of-san-diego

 

[The Bandit]

Floor

Bryant's floor is that of a power-wielding designated hitter, left fielder, or first baseman whose body outgrows his ability to play above-average defense. He will likely be a regular major league player, even at his floor, but if concerns about making contact are for real, then Bryant could be more Russell Branyan than Ted Williams.

Ceiling

Hyperbole aside, the sky is the limit. Bryant's approach and power are such that dreaming on All-Star appearances, MVP considerations, and (dare I say it?) historic home run numbers seems allowable. Bryant has one of the most prolific power bats to ever leave the college ranks, and he could be a franchise-altering talent.

in the link above

 

[Mr. Cub]

Man, they make his potential sound awesome. I would almost be happy if he became half of his ceiling.

 

[Jntg4]

Nice find. Very interesting that Evan develops his power later while Kris has it now. He doesn't wow me and think I'd rather have the pitcher.

And to those that think BA is useless really need to follow another sport.

:andruw:

 

[mountsalami]

The real question for me is......

Why did they take Bryant over Gray ?

Would really like to hear Command Central's reasoning for this considering that power pitching was a priority according to Hoyer.

Not sure they have even drafted a power pitcher to this point.

Like the idea of what Hoyer stated, but as usual they rarely follow through.

 

[The Bandit]

The real question for me is......

Why did they take Bryant over Gray ?

Would really like to hear Command Central's reasoning for this considering that power pitching was a priority according to Hoyer.

Not sure they have even drafted a power pitcher to this point.

Like the idea of what Hoyer stated, but as usual they rarely follow through.

Pitching is easier to acquire through the rest of the draft, free agency, and trades, 3B, there is basically no talent in the system we have Luis Valbuena as a stop gap which is exactly what Reynolds would be, and there is no great 3b with power on the market in the forseeable future, I can see why they did it, if Appel didn't go 1 we would of gotten the pitcher but he went 1 so you go with the best bat in the draft.

 

[mountsalami]

Pitching is easier to acquire through the rest of the draft, free agency, and trades, 3B, there is basically no talent in the system we have Luis Valbuena as a stop gap which is exactly what Reynolds would be, and there is no great 3b with power on the market in the forseeable future, I can see why they did it, if Appel didn't go 1 we would of gotten the pitcher but he went 1 so you go with the best bat in the draft.

I really don't have the energy to respond to this.

 

[KBisBack!]

Found this on the internet regarding KB..............Kris Bryant that is.

Illustrates his strengths, weaknesses, floor and ceiling by various people and scouts, and there is a video at the bottom to boot.

Interesting in my opinion.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2013-m...-draft-profile-kris-bryant-3b-1b-of-san-diego

Fuck this guy! I am the ONLY KB! lol

And once again in the analysis it talks about concern regarding lack of contact and two words that also made me throw up.

Russell Branyan.

 

[KBisBack!]

Pitching is easier to acquire through the rest of the draft, free agency, and trades

It is idiotic statements like this which rightfully gets Cub fans labeled as the dumbest in sports.

 

[The Bandit]

It is idiotic statements like this which rightfully gets Cub fans labeled as the dumbest in sports.

Dumb.

 

[CSF77]

It is idiotic statements like this which rightfully gets Cub fans labeled as the dumbest in sports.

2014 MLB Free Agents
By Tim Dierkes [February 29, 2012 at 12:58pm CST]
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Third basemen

Wilson Betemit (32) - $3.2MM vesting option
Eric Chavez (36)
Mark DeRosa (39)
Mike Fontenot (34)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (38)
Brandon Inge (37)
Placido Polanco (38)
Mark Reynolds (30)
Juan Uribe (34)
Kevin Youkilis (35)
Michael Young (37)


Starting pitchers

Bronson Arroyo (37)
Scott Baker (32)
Erik Bedard (35)
Nick Blackburn (32) - $8MM club option
A.J. Burnett (37)
Chris Capuano (35) - $8MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Chris Carpenter (39)
Bruce Chen (37)
Bartolo Colon (41)
Aaron Cook (35)
Jorge De La Rosa (33)
Scott Feldman (30)
Gavin Floyd (31)
Jeff Francis (33)
Armando Galarraga (32)
Freddy Garcia (37)
Jon Garland (34)
Matt Garza (30)
Roy Halladay (37) - $20MM vesting option
Jason Hammel (31)
Aaron Harang (36) - $7MM+ mutual option with a $2MM buyout
Rich Harden (32)
Dan Haren (33)
Roberto Hernandez (33)
Tim Hudson (38)
Phil Hughes (28)
Ubaldo Jimenez (30) - may void $8MM option for 2014
Josh Johnson (30)
Jeff Karstens (31)
Scott Kazmir (30)
Hiroki Kuroda (39)
Jon Lester (30) - $13MM club option with a $250K buyout
Colby Lewis (34)
Ted Lilly (38)
Tim Lincecum (30)
Derek Lowe (41)
Paul Maholm (32)
Shaun Marcum (32)
Jason Marquis (35)
Daisuke Matsuzaka (33)
Brett Myers (33) - club option
Ricky Nolasco (31)
Roy Oswalt (35)
Mike Pelfrey (30)
Andy Pettitte (42)
Wandy Rodriguez (35) - $13MM club option with a $2.5MM buyout
Jonathan Sanchez (31)
Ervin Santana (31)
Johan Santana (34) - $25MM club option with a $5.5MM buyout
Joe Saunders (33) - mutual option
James Shields (32) - $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Tim Stauffer (32)
Jason Vargas (31)
Ryan Vogelsong (36) - $6.5MM club option with a $300K buyout
Edinson Volquez (30)
Tsuyoshi Wada (33) - $5MM club option
Jake Westbrook (36) -- $9.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout.
Chien-Ming Wang (34)
Suk-min Yoon (27)
Chris Young (35)
Barry Zito (36) - $18MM vesting option with a $7MM buyout


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Third basemen

Alberto Callaspo (32)
Alberto Gonzalez (32)
Jack Hannahan (35) - $4MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Chase Headley (31)
Donnie Murphy (32)
Aramis Ramirez (37) - mutual option
Hanley Ramirez (31)
Cody Ransom (39)
Pablo Sandoval (28)
Ian Stewart (30)
Ty Wigginton (37)

Starting pitchers

Brett Anderson (27) - $12MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
Homer Bailey (29)
Josh Beckett (35)
Chad Billingsley (30) - $14MM club option with a $3MM buyout
Nick Blackburn (33)
Joe Blanton (34) - $8MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Wei-Yin Chen (29) - $4.75MM club option with a $372K buyout
Kevin Correia (34)
Johnny Cueto (29) - $10MM club option with an $800K buyout
Ryan Dempster (38)
Yovani Gallardo (29) - $13MM club option with a $600K buyout
Edgar Gonzalez (32)
J.A. Happ (32) - $6.7MM club option
Luke Hochevar (31)
Hisashi Iwakuma (34) - $7MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Jair Jurrjens (29)
Kyle Kendrick (30)
Clayton Kershaw (27)
Aaron Laffey (30)
John Lannan (30)
Justin Masterson (30)
Brandon McCarthy (31)
Dustin McGowan (32) - $4MM club option with a $500K buyout
Brandon Morrow (30) - $10MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Charlie Morton (31)
Jeff Niemann (32)
Ross Ohlendorf (32)
Felipe Paulino (31)
Jake Peavy (34)
Clayton Richard (31)
Max Scherzer (30)
Chris Volstad (28)
Carlos Villanueva (31)

 

[Willrust]

The real question for me is......

Why did they take Bryant over Gray ?

Would really like to hear Command Central's reasoning for this considering that power pitching was a priority according to Hoyer.

Not sure they have even drafted a power pitcher to this point.

Like the idea of what Hoyer stated, but as usual they rarely follow through.

Maybe they saw a lot of Daniel Bard in Jonathan Gray? But every pitcher they selected this year has a FB between 90-96 MPH. If some of these guys moved to the pen, they could probably pump it up a couple MPH. They got power arms.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I like Appel ok, he is more ready now and has all the pitches. But Gray will develop secondary pitchers, and his floor is a dominant closer which the Cubs also need. Pretty high pick for a closer that might be more Bobby Jenks than Rivera, but Gray has high ceiling.

 

[KBisBack!]

Maybe they saw a lot of Daniel Bard in Jonathan Gray? But every pitcher they selected this year has a FB between 90-96 MPH. If some of these guys moved to the pen, they could probably pump it up a couple MPH. They got power arms.

In the year 2013, 90-96 are not 'power arms'

95+ are power arms.

Typical :fap::fap::fap::fap::fap::fap::fap::fap::fap:ing over prospects.

 

[mountsalami]

I like Appel ok, he is more ready now and has all the pitches. But Gray will develop secondary pitchers, and his floor is a dominant closer which the Cubs also need. Pretty high pick for a closer that might be more Bobby Jenks than Rivera, but Gray has high ceiling.

Doesn't say much about Bryant if you use the same logic.

It is nice to know that some 9.5 million dollars was spent on an aging relief pitcher from Japan, that hadn't thrown a pitch in the U.S., was inserted into the 25 man roster immediately, and basicly has no ceiling at all.

The only good that has come out of that is they now have a translator in the dugout just in case someone wants to learn Japanese.