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Don't bother whining. It's not your point of view. Believe anything you want. Using lame tactics is obnoxious and you join in on the mental masturbating that sp94/eternityw/glide do throughout this forum.
The closest thing to a polarizing statement that I make is something like 'the 1992 Bulls were nowhere near the greatest team ever and the Lakers and Celtics of the 80's were much better.'
You, on the otherhand, will go as far as calling me and Houheffna Pippen haters simply because we are trying to put Pippen in, what we consider to be, his correct place in history.
No... I call you guys haters due to the double standard you have when it comes to pippen. Look at the kobe bryant conparison.
You blame pippen for that loss in portland when he was 34 and they gave up that 15 pt lead to the lakers. Well what about when the kobe led lakers surrendered that 25-27 pt lead to the celtics in the 08 finals? Before that, no team had ever been able to come back.
You hold pippen accountable for him and the bulls losing to the favored knicks in 94 in 7 games. The same team that the bulls barely beat in 93 with jordan in 7 games. Why isn't grant hill held with the same accountability. He never faired better in 6 years leading the pistons. Where his "takeover games" ability?
Then, to compound your folly by conveniently dimissing the times pippen did take over games.
When we debated rather or not pippen should've won the dpoy, you wouldn't even consider the notion. Even though I showed you that pippen led the bulls to the number 2 ranked defense, led the league in defensive rating, was the top rebounder for SF, led the league in stls, avg a blk a game, made the all-defense team and had the most votes, as well as being a great man, help, trap and full court defender. Your rebutal is that he wasn't a center, and then give credit to luc longley. Friggn luc longley.
I could go on and on rami. I've never seen someone so determined to not give out credit. Your a hater.
No... I call you guys haters due to the double standard you have when it comes to pippen. Look at the kobe bryant conparison.
You blame pippen for that loss in portland when he was 34 and they gave up that 15 pt lead to the lakers. Well what about when the kobe led lakers surrendered that 25-27 pt lead to the celtics in the 08 finals? Before that, no team had ever been able to come back.
You hold pippen accountable for him and the bulls losing to the favored knicks in 94 in 7 games. The same team that the bulls barely beat in 93 with jordan in 7 games. Why isn't grant hill held with the same accountability. He never faired better in 6 years leading the pistons. Where his "takeover games" ability?
Then, to compound your folly by conveniently dimissing the times pippen did take over games.
When we debated rather or not pippen should've won the dpoy, you wouldn't even consider the notion. Even though I showed you that pippen led the bulls to the number 2 ranked defense, led the league in defensive rating, was the top rebounder for SF, led the league in stls, avg a blk a game, made the all-defense team and had the most votes, as well as being a great man, help, trap and full court defender. Your rebutal is that he wasn't a center, and then give credit to luc longley. Friggn luc longley.
I could go on and on rami. I've never seen someone so determined to not give out credit. Your a hater.
Or more than a Pippen hater, an SP94 hater......boy do I have a lot of them.
And being hated comes with the territory of being an elite....That's how you know someone is great, when they are hated on.........
Speaking of liars, how about you admit that nobody in here called Pippen an average player.
I'm actually with DDF and SP94. This thread ran its course a long time ago. No amount of facts, stats, comparison, video, context, records, quotes, etc will sway these guys into acknowledgeing that pippen was better than what he was able to show.
Id have more respect for a lot of you guys if you'd just come out and say you don't like pippen. The saddest part is that as a bulls fan, I've had conversations with other fans and they tell me pippen never really got the respect and credit he derved from his teams fanbase. And its sad
You guys even go so far as to pick on him. You'd think you guys would be happy that as bulls fans SP94, DDF, and I have been able to present information. That would indicate that under certain circumstances, he'd be ranked a lot higher. I've had similar conversations with laker fans (who are the worse) and even they come off a certain stance that they started on after certain inforrmation is presented. But not the bulls fan that frequent this website. And that's the saddest part. When the outsiders are more willing to concede a pov than the supposed fans.
Ill close with this
In one of those scottie pippen videos, it starts off with a quote from him
"Sometimes, the hardest thing a player must do.... is come to grips with his role on his team."
The man sacrificed his career for the bulls and our enjoyment. And this is the appreciation he gets.
Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Nope.
Only if you admit that you have been acting like a crybaby and spoiled brat, then I will gladly say noone called pippen average, even though you did in many other ways....if that makes you feel better young#########, i mean MAN.
Will any one of you admit that Pippen couldn't shoot as well as Bryant? No.
Will any one of you admit that Pippen didn't demand double-teams while Bryant did? No.
Therefore, what is the point of trying to have a rational conversation with any of you?
I already admitted Kobe was a better scorer on more than a few pages on this thread....look back and read..
i didn't call any of your opinion stupid. you just called mine. my opinion is stupid in your head only, in mine it is all good.
pippen defended magic well in 91 finals so lakers offense was destroyed by bulls defense. magic was the same as he was before so age is not a factor in this case. bulls won 4-1, what other proof do you need?
The only proof I would have needed was for you to not sleep through Magic Johnson's career...you missed it. You should reserve your opinions for stuff you actually watched. To say Pippen was as good a player as Magic Johnson is just plain silly. And yeah, that's my opinion.
How about admit that you lied and try to gain a shred of respectability back.
I gets plenty of respect in my hometown MANG.....
I didn't lie about anything on this thread....I call it how I see t brah....
Except for when you lied that we called Pippen an "average" player.
Just admit that you lied. It's okay.
Look Rami, if it ends this ridiculous childish argument with you, then fine, I'm a lier and your a truthful man.....I'm ugly and your beautiful.........your smart and I'm stupid........I know nothing and you know all.................Pippen could of been replaced by any wingman in the league..........This forum belongs to the golden child Rami........I bow before the great and powerful Rami.............There will you stop crying now for crying out loud..........uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.........now everything I just wrote just now in this reply is a lie...........I wasn't a lier before, so I just now became one to make you happy.........I stepped down and sacrificed for this forum the same way Pippen did for the Bulls and Jordan...........You should buy me a beer now.......