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You must consider the source. I'm not surprised at all. He has no respect for pippens talent and what's more is he has no respect for the road pippen took to become a hofer. And I'm still trying to figure out, if jordan could take a journeymen caliber player and turn him into arguably a top 5 SF all-time and hofer, why couldn't he do this with anyone else? Especially brad sellers. Who in all honestly was very talented. But the bulls tried to make him something he wasn't.

How many teammates has jordan had? 100s id assume. Why could he only make 1 better?

Its simple, Pippen had the drive, determination, disceplin, character, talent, skill, knowledge of the game, and will to maximise his game..........That kind of character doesn't come a dime a dozen.......And he was humble about it........and in the NBA humbleness is very very rare......And the lord blessed the man and put him with Jordan.......It was pure fate...........6 championships..
 

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SP1994's sig proves Pippen wasn't humble...

C'mon guys, I don't understand this crusade for Scottie Pippen.

I could see crusading for Kukoc or Grant, but Pip got his due and more....
 

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SP1994's sig proves Pippen wasn't humble...

C'mon guys, I don't understand this crusade for Scottie Pippen.

I could see crusading for Kukoc or Grant, but Pip got his due and more....



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Just because Pip dunked on people and broke hearts with his defense doesn't mean he wasn't a humble person on and off the court.......Derrick Rose is humble and he destroyed people all year long last season...
 
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How about when you called me a hater again for just saying my opinion, asshole.

LoL, why you snappin like that MAN???
This is not the cool melo Rami we are used to.
Its cool bro..

I just got some real good lime green kush I'm bout to roll up in a Swisher.
I feel like I should smoke it with you to help calm the nerves....Ill even let you flame the blunt up and let you bless it buddy......its the least I can do, considering you had my back last month when I needed you......Really, hit the blunt bro.

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I agree jordan helped pippen develope. But I stop short at the references to jordan teaching pippen how to play basketball.

I also don't see how this is even relevant. What if jordan never played under phil jackson? What if magic isn't passing to a bunch of players capable of scoring 20 ppg? And played in an uptempo offense? What if pippen got with an offensive minded coach like don nelson?
There's just too much conjesture in this way of thinking.

We should just stick to what we actually saw

Same here.
 

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Letting Grant and Williams go was a big mistake........And as far as Brian Williams, I thought he was an awsome fit for the Bulls his 1 year on the team....Who knows, Brian might have been still living if not for krause.....Just like on back to the future, one change can alter the whole time space continuum...He might have been in Chicago instead of retiring early in Detroit and probably wouldn't have been on the ocean with his physcho brother...

Williams left for the big contract that the Bulls couldn't pay him.
 

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Williams left for the big contract that the Bulls couldn't pay him.

Or that Jerry wasn't willing to pay......but your right, he was asking to much money and he was kind of a bad seed.
 

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Or that Jerry wasn't willing to pay......but your right, he was asking to much money and he was kind of a bad seed.

Actually, it was my understanding that there was a dipute over his playoff share. And that's such a shame. If he would've resigned with the bulls, they would've probably won 70 in 98. And then him combined with kukoc and harper would've been at least a 500 team in 99.
 

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Actually, it was my understanding that there was a dipute over his playoff share. And that's such a shame. If he would've resigned with the bulls, they would've probably won 70 in 98. And then him combined with kukoc and harper would've been at least a 500 team in 99.

Yeah, true.......He was a big guy who had a lot of heart and his defense was tough....He would of been a very capable starter to replace Rodman when he left.....Its a dam shame how his life ended.


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Go back about 3 years. They won 47 games the year before, 45 in 78 (with kareem missing 20 games), and 53 in 77 which was good for the best record in the league. And kareem was the best player in the league.

And I never called that game magic scored 40 pts "strange" lol. What I meant was that its a lot easier to rally the troops for one game as opposed to doing it on a nightly basis for the duration on 82 games.


And what wrong with me using FG%? If the league acknowledeges FG% then why is it not a feasible way to determine a players "impact". Not saying advanced stats are good too. But no stat tells the whole story.

You call call my view on barkley backwards if you want, but we all have our opinions. I've acknowledged barkley was a great player. But I feel he could've been better. I mean, if he plays defense at a high level, to go along with his scoring ability and rebounding you don't think he would be a better player? And what's more is that he saw it as a joke. I can't tell you how much respect I lost for him when he said as long as larry bird was still in the league, he wouldn't be the worst defender in the league. If I was his GM and heard that, I would've traded his ass that same day. Let him go somewhere else and get his 40 pts and 18 rbds with an L.

And I've also admitted pippen should've been a better ft shooter. Go back and reread my post before this one. I said his inabilty to hit Fts is what kept him from being a 23-24 ppg scorer.

And that trade fell through because jordan saidd if pippen was traded, he would retire. And I guarntee you if he traded jordan, he would've been shot that very same day. He didn't want jordan there either. It was reinsdorf that stepped in and kept that team together. If krause had it his way, he would've traded jordan too.

Show me proof that Krause would have traded Jordan...otherwise you are making things up...if he wanted to trade Jordan, he would have done it 10 years prior.
 

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Actually, it was my understanding that there was a dipute over his playoff share. And that's such a shame. If he would've resigned with the bulls, they would've probably won 70 in 98. And then him combined with kukoc and harper would've been at least a 500 team in 99.

Usually playoff shares are decided by the players...
 

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Show me proof that Krause would have traded Jordan...otherwise you are making things up...if he wanted to trade Jordan, he would have done it 10 years prior.

Your missing the point. I said that because he didn't like jordan. That's very well documented. It was reinsdorf that made it clear he would pay whatever to keep jordan.

And for this reason, I feel that he would've traded jordan if he believed he could get away with it.
 

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Show me proof that Krause would have traded Jordan...otherwise you are making things up...if he wanted to trade Jordan, he would have done it 10 years prior.

Usually playoff shares are decided by the players...

Well maybe that was it. Maybe he he wouldn't resign with the bulls because he felt slighted by the players. Regardess, the point is that krause rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

But saying that, I do feel he deserves to be in the hall of fame.
 

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Well maybe that was it. Maybe he he wouldn't resign with the bulls because he felt slighted by the players. Regardess, the point is that krause rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

But saying that, I do feel he deserves to be in the hall of fame.

Doesn't matter who liked him, he was the arbiter of the talent base on the team. He never seemed comfortable with Pippen leading the team. Maybe that 1.8 seconds situation made him nauseous as it made a lot of fans who still haven't forgiven him for it. Whatever the reasoning was...twice Pippen was to be traded, and the first time, Reinsdorf DID NOT INTERFERE...Seattle didn't think Pippen was worth Shawn Kemp. That was the difference.
 

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Doesn't matter who liked him, he was the arbiter of the talent base on the team. He never seemed comfortable with Pippen leading the team. Maybe that 1.8 seconds situation made him nauseous as it made a lot of fans who still haven't forgiven him for it. Whatever the reasoning was...twice Pippen was to be traded, and the first time, Reinsdorf DID NOT INTERFERE...Seattle didn't think Pippen was worth Shawn Kemp. That was the difference.

Show me where it says that seattle nixed that possible trade. It was my understanding that the bulls backed out. Here's a conversation johhny bach had that was posted about the bulls, jordan, pippen being traded, and pippen

Great stories about Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen and the Chicago Bulls by Johnny Bach - DSY's posterous

Bach does say that krause mayve wanted to trade him because of that 1.8 incident. But the coaches looked at him as if he was crazy for even consider trading him. And that included phil jackson. I reaaly believe he (krause) just didn't like pippen and saw an opportunity to get rid of him.

He also says that jordan and pippen made each other better. "Terrific" was the word he used.
 

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Oh and bach left the bulls on bad terms too. Another person assoociated that had a problem with krause.
 

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