Guns

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Just like socialist ideas the response is “it will never happen here we are different” lol

 

[number51]

Going down the path...

Venezuela bans private gun ownership

Venezuela brings in a new law banning the commercial sale of guns and ammunition, in an attempt to control worsening crime rates.

www.bbc.com

Just like socialist ideas the response is “it will never happen here we are different” lol

WTF is wrong with you guys? I have never heard anyone with any political clout suggest "banning the sale of firearms and ammo", if you guys know of a serious politician saying anything like this please provide a link. Otherwise I will just assume you two are a couple of Fox News zombies falling for their scare tactics. I really didn't picture either of you two being that naive and gullible.

I've owned at least one gun for over 30 years and I have never had the slightest concern of anyone coming for my weapon, of course I don't watch much Fox News and I'm not Special person.

 

[Globetrotter]

I'm not Special person.

 

[number51]

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Tell us again about how 100% of all gun purchases get a background check. That lie still hurts a little, I don't think you like me very much for calling you on your BS. That's okay, you join a fine group of CCS posters that got busted publicly for lying, call yourselves the No Credibility Club, you can be treasurer, ommy is president.

 

[Globetrotter]

Tell us again about how 100% of all gun purchases get a background check. That lie still hurts a little, I don't think you like me very much for calling you on your BS. That's okay, you join a fine group of CCS posters that got busted publicly for lying, call yourselves the No Credibility Club, you can be treasurer, ommy is president.

You’re such a disingenuous little bitch lol. I stated the law. Sorry you can’t follow along. You can keep bringing it up. Doesn’t make you any less slow.

There is no “gun show loophole”.

 

[Burque]

WTF is wrong with you guys? I have never heard anyone with any political clout suggest "banning the sale of firearms and ammo", if you guys know of a serious politician saying anything like this please provide a link. Otherwise I will just assume you two are a couple of Fox News zombies falling for their scare tactics. I really didn't picture either of you two being that naive and gullible.

I've owned at least one gun for over 30 years and I have never had the slightest concern of anyone coming for my weapon, of course I don't watch much Fox News and I'm not Special person.

I didn't say anything about the United States, that post was about what is happening in Venezuela. I haven't as of yet felt any concern about losing my rights of gun ownership with the exception of talk about banning assault style weapons. Which in my eyes means banning guns that look scary.

 

[1COBearsfan]

I’ve got a few...

AR-15, Remington 700, Rock Island 1911, and a few others that I got when my grandfather passed away(nothing super cool, unfortunately) I also have a dreaded ghost gun. I made a Glock 27 clone from Polymer80 that I also have a 9mm conversion barrel for that I carry frequently

The carry gun caliber debate is moot now that hollow point technology has come so far recently, just carry what you shoot well. That’s it

 

[number51]

You’re such a disingenuous little bitch lol. I stated the law. Sorry you can’t follow along. You can keep bringing it up. Doesn’t make you any less slow.

There is no “gun show loophole”.

You got caught in a lie, you were shouted down and ran out of the thread crying like a little bitch with your tail between your legs. Do you really want to do that again, nothing has changed, you are still just as full of shit now as you were then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole

http://www.factandmyth.com/gun-laws-restrictions/yes-the-gun-show-loophole-is-real-nra-lies-exposed

Only idiots post lies that are so easily disproven.

 

[HeHateMe]

Wait, when I bought an SKS at a gun show they did a background check on me?

 

[number51]

Wait, when I bought an SKS at a gun show they did a background check on me?

Depends what state you were in. Check the wiki link above, that article lists the states where no background checks are done also from that page:

"On May 27, 1999 Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association (NRA), testified before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, saying: "We think it is reasonable to provide mandatory, instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. No loopholes anywhere for anyone." LaPierre has since said that he is opposed to universal background checks."

 

[HeHateMe]

Depends what state you were in. Check the wiki link above, that article lists the states where no background checks are done also from that page:

"On May 27, 1999 Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association (NRA), testified before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, saying: "We think it is reasonable to provide mandatory, instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. No loopholes anywhere for anyone." LaPierre has since said that he is opposed to universal background checks."

It was ohio so nope, got that strap on the dl. thank gosh i'm not cray

 

[number51]

It was ohio so nope, got that strap on the dl. thank gosh i'm not cray

According to some people you had some sort of super secret background check done because:

There is no “gun show loophole”.

I'm guessing they lifted your finger prints off a pop can or something and whisked that off to Interpol. Then they cross checked that shit with the FBI, CIA, NSA, according to @Warden of the Northeast, FEMA for some reason, and if the purchase was made after Friday, January 20, 2017 it was also cross checked with Russian intelligence officials.

If @Matt360 is telling the truth this all happened behind the scenes, you would never even know it was happening.

 

[Burque]

I’ve got a few...

AR-15, Remington 700, Rock Island 1911, and a few others that I got when my grandfather passed away(nothing super cool, unfortunately) I also have a dreaded ghost gun. I made a Glock 27 clone from Polymer80 that I also have a 9mm conversion barrel for that I carry frequently

The carry gun caliber debate is moot now that hollow point technology has come so far recently, just carry what you shoot well. That’s it

I don't think it's entirely moot.

I think there are valid arguments on all sides. The bigger argument I think need to continue to be had is carrying a revolver versus a semi auto.

 

[blinddeafmute]

I don't think it's entirely moot.

I think there are valid arguments on all sides. The bigger argument I think need to continue to be had is carrying a revolver versus a semi auto.

I'd be interested in hearing your points on carrying a revolver vs. carrying a semi-auto.

 

[1COBearsfan]

I don't think it's entirely moot.

I think there are valid arguments on all sides. The bigger argument I think need to continue to be had is carrying a revolver versus a semi auto.

The energy at target is close enough with most popular hollow point rounds that the biggest concern now, by far, is shot placement and individual training. Of course there will always be arguments over personal preference but that’s completely subjective.

The revolver vs semi auto, for me, is the same as caliber selection. Whatever is most comfortable for the individual. I think the only caveat is that a carry gun needs to be reliable, which is why I carry a Glock. Any malfunctions need to be thoroughly tracked down and alleviated before being trusted again. The only problem I’ve ever had with my Glock I was able to trace back to ammo, it was a super light copper/polymer round from Ruger. It’s eaten several hundred rounds of several other kinds without a hiccup since then

Revolvers aren’t for me but I’m not going to shit on them. I know the argument is that revolvers are more reliable but that’s not entirely true. Any mechanical device can fail and the trigger/cylinder/barrel timing of a revolver is no exception. They may be slightly more reliable but it’s not day and night. The argument could be made between individual models of guns which is more/less reliable but that’s not what I’m talking about. I think we all have heard of reliability problems with some newer semi auto pistols but are also equally aware of Glock’s reputation.

 

[Burque]

I'd be interested in hearing your points on carrying a revolver vs. carrying a semi-auto.

I think there are two important points on revolver versus semi-auto.

1. I can always operate a revolver with one hand and that is not the case with a semi-auto.

2. A revolver doesn't have the functionality issues that can show up with a semi-auto.

 

[Burque]

The energy at target is close enough with most popular hollow point rounds that the biggest concern now, by far, is shot placement and individual training. Of course there will always be arguments over personal preference but that’s completely subjective.

The revolver vs semi auto, for me, is the same as caliber selection. Whatever is most comfortable for the individual. I think the only caveat is that a carry gun needs to be reliable, which is why I carry a Glock. Any malfunctions need to be thoroughly tracked down and alleviated before being trusted again. The only problem I’ve ever had with my Glock I was able to trace back to ammo, it was a super light copper/polymer round from Ruger. It’s eaten several hundred rounds of several other kinds without a hiccup since then

Revolvers aren’t for me but I’m not going to shit on them. I know the argument is that revolvers are more reliable but that’s not entirely true. Any mechanical device can fail and the trigger/cylinder/barrel timing of a revolver is no exception. They may be slightly more reliable but it’s not day and night. The argument could be made between individual models of guns which is more/less reliable but that’s not what I’m talking about. I think we all have heard of reliability problems with some newer semi auto pistols but are also equally aware of Glock’s reputation.

Typically, reliability will come into play in the revolver versus semi-auto conversation. I will say that faith in your firearm is paramount and I think it comes down to usage. Practicing with your carry rounds in semi-auto is far more important than it is with a revolver. I think that is the difference in people that shoot a lot versus those that do not. If you shoot 1000 rounds a year through your semi-auto and are comfortable with your carry rounds then: 1. you are going to carry reliable ammo and 2. you are going to respond correctly when something strange happens.

The thought that revolvers are better in some ways remains, in that the firearm is simpler to use and requires less training and reliability to use effectively. In a time of desperation someone with less training is going to fail to clear a firearm that has an issue and instead pull the trigger again which is the correct thing to do with a revolver but not with a semi-auto.

The 9mm debate versus the .45 debate is intense and I think both sides have a point. I prefer .45 but I also prefer it in a double stack full sized pistol. 7 rounds out of a 1911 is fine and all, but not my preferred method of delivery. I understand why people trust it though, it has stood the test of time for a reason. I would take 17 good rounds of 9mm over 7 rounds of good .45 ammo. On the other hand I would take 14 rounds of good .45 ammo over 17 rounds of good 9mm ammo. That is just my opinion though.

The other side of the caliber argument in my opinion is the pistol round versus the rifle round in a pistol. The 5.7 round and the 22 mag round are fast, capable, and you can store a lot of them in the handle of your pistol. they shoot much closer to a rifle round in terms of feet per second and penetration capability. I know people that would argue (Much like your 9mm argument) that 20 rounds 5.7 mm is easier to shoot and far more effective than any normal pistol round.

Either way it ultimately comes down to comfort. I would rather someone carry something they are comfortable with, have trained with, and know how to use properly rather than find themselves in a situation where they are making mistakes.

 

[Globetrotter]

You got caught in a lie, you were shouted down and ran out of the thread crying like a little bitch with your tail between your legs. Do you really want to do that again, nothing has changed, you are still just as full of shit now as you were then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole

http://www.factandmyth.com/gun-laws-restrictions/yes-the-gun-show-loophole-is-real-nra-lies-exposed

Only idiots post lies that are so easily disproven.

I’m the dishonest one in this?

I thought you were so dug in that you weren’t willing to just admit you were wrong. Unfortunately, for me (for attempting to educate you over and over again) you just aren’t willing or are completely incapable of understanding a simple concept.

 

[Globetrotter]

I think there are two important points on revolver versus semi-auto.

1. I can always operate a revolver with one hand and that is not the case with a semi-auto.

2. A revolver doesn't have the functionality issues that can show up with a semi-auto.

I have to disagree with you on the first one.

You can rack the slide fairly easily using the iron sights or MRDS against a seam of your pants, against a barrier or any number of ways.
It’s also far easier to eject/reload a magazine than it is to put 5-8 rounds in a revolver with one hand.

I would never carry a revolver.

 

[Fatman LOU]

Thinking about buying a DP - 12 .