Half Full -vs- Half Empty - AKA Homerism -vs- Realism

[Gustavus Adolphus]

This article states that the great Randy Gregory was a JUCO transfer.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...co-transfers-for-2015-college-football-season

 

[Mongo_76]

]Except for the little fact that he wasn't a JC kid when he was drafted,[/B] like you said. Here it is again "We picked a junior college kid as our first round pick..."

You can try to backpeddle all you want, but it's still a stupid point.

Show me where I said that.

I'lll wait here.

 

[Nick80]

This article states that the great Randy Gregory was a JUCO transfer.

Thank god he wasn't drafted number 7 overall.

 

[Newblood]

Only arguing with people you think you have the upper hand on?

Deary me, you need to stop. Trolling isn't your strong suit is it?

When you get past using gifs as answers and the ideal that everyone should fall in line to your positive sunshine out of the arsehole ideals the better it will be for all of us.

 

[Nick80]

Keep trying Mary.

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

You idiots acting like he wasn't a JC player need to give it up.

White was JC. Period.

He had a crappy junior year, and then, as I said, broke out in a spread offense, running 4 routes (yes 4) his senior year.

He has never seen a true pro-set play book as WV played a spread. He has never had to sight adjust. He has never had to read the S leverage or the DB playing inside or outside leverage. He has never had to play with audibles. He has rarely every played bump or stuff.

He got the route in the huddle, and ran it.

He is a true physical talent. And he definitely won 50/50 passes. But, as every pundit has said, he is raw.

Fucking learn football before you shit on realistic views.

You look dumb otherwise.

You still are avoiding the question about we should care about him going the JUCO route as a 17 yr old graduating from H.S.....

Can you explain why you even mentioned it? That was a half decade ago, so again- without changing the subject- what is the issue with him going JUCO?

I could go into how moronic your latest points are, but i'll save the effort and keep pressing you on this one since you keep avoiding it.

 

[Mongo_76]

Ok, explain to us why a player going to JUCO after H.S. is a concern to you?

Do you even understand that going somewhere other than a 4yr school can happen for a myriad of reasons many of which have absolutely nothing to do with football aptitude?


You're pissed your guy or whatever didn't get picked in the first and that you look like a total boob bc you moronically said we had little chance of taking White, so now you're trying to slander White with nonsense.

GET REAL MAN.

It's a concern because he was not considered valuable to college recruiters out of HS.

For some reason...

That little detail doesn't bother you?

 

[Mongo_76]

You still are avoiding the question about we should care about him going the JUCO route as a 17 yr old graduating from H.S.....

Can you explain why you even mentioned it? That was a half decade ago, so again- without changing the subject- what is the issue with him going JUCO?

Answered.

 

[Novak]

It's a concern because he was not considered valuable to college recruiters out of HS.

For some reason...

That little detail doesn't bother you?

Not at all. But your OP was interesting at least.

 

[Newblood]

Show me where I said that.

I'lll wait here.

Let me QUOTE it again "We picked a junior college kid as our first round pick...".
That is not to same as "We picked a kid who was in junior college as our first round pick."

When a guy as shitty at grammar as myself has to explain this shit to both you and Nick, then you know you are fucked.

 

[Newblood]

Keep trying Mary.

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

It's a concern because he was not considered valuable to college recruiters out of HS.

For some reason...

That little detail doesn't bother you?

That isn't the only reason people go to JUCO's dude, lol. Are you sure it wasn't a grades or injury or late development issue?

Also, that was 5 yrs ago as a 17 yr old who would have had to be considered really valuable in the recruiting process as a 16 yr old to really catch the eye of a major in the process how it works these days.

So you're saying bc he didn't catch the eye of a major at 15/16 yrs of age you are concerned about a grown ass man who is 22?




This is seriously what you're going with??

 

[Mongo_76]

You still are avoiding the question about we should care about him going the JUCO route as a 17 yr old graduating from H.S.....

Can you explain why you even mentioned it? That was a half decade ago, so again- without changing the subject- what is the issue with him going JUCO?

I could go into how moronic your latest points are, but i'll save the effort and keep pressing you on this one since you keep avoiding it.

To be very specific to your question....


Let's look at his stats AFTER teams began focusing on him as s primary receiver for WV. Check out his last 6 games.

 

[Mongo_76]

That isn't the only reason people go to JUCO's dude, lol. Are you sure it wasn't a grades or injury or late development issue?

Also, that was 5 yrs ago as a 17 yr old who would have had to be considered really valuable in the recruiting process as a 16 yr old to really catch the eye of a major in the process how it works these days.

So you're saying bc he didn't catch the eye of a major at 15/16 yrs of age you are concerned about a grown ass man who is 22?




This is seriously what you're going with??

Im going with my opinion that he is a risk. And that this was not a 2015 draft.

I feel that Pace is drafting for 2016 or 2017.

 

[Mongo_76]

Let me QUOTE it again "We picked a junior college kid as our first round pick...".
That is not to same as "We picked a kid who was in junior college as our first round pick."

When a guy as shitty at grammar as myself has to explain this shit to both you and Nick, then you know you are fucked.

And my OP is still not wrong.

We picked a JC kid as our first pick.

Spin it however you want. My post is factual, realistic, and correct.

Period.

 

[Newblood]

To be very specific to your question....


Let's look at his stats AFTER teams began focusing on him as s primary receiver for WV. Check out his last 6 games.

Did I just witness a complete avoidance of a statement via change of subject?

And if he sucks as bad as you imply, why would teams focus on him? Why would University football programs focus on a lowly JC athlete?

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

Im going with my opinion that he is a risk. And that this was not a 2015 draft.

I feel that Pace is drafting for 2016 or 2017.

Everyone is a risk.....you just said nothing.

Answer the actual questions posed....

Are you seriously questioning a 22 yr old grown ass man's ability to play football based on the fact he didn't catch a coach's eye as a 15/16 yr old?

Are you even sure that was the issue?

 

[Mongo_76]

Did I just witness a complete avoidance of a statement via change of subject?

And if he sucks as bad as you imply, why would teams focus on him? Why would University football programs focus on a lowly JC athlete?

Show me where I said he sucks. Drama queen

I'll wait here.

 

[Newblood]

And my OP is still not wrong.

We picked a JC kid as our first pick.

Spin it however you want. My post is factual, realistic, and correct.

Period.

Yeah no, it's an incorrect statement. They did not draft a JC kid, because he was not a JC kid when he was drafted.

Watching this is becoming comical.

 

[Mongo_76]

Everyone is a risk.....you just said nothing.

Answer the actual questions posed....

Are you seriously questioning a 22 yr old grown ass man's ability to play football based on the fact he didn't catch a coach's eye as a 15/16 yr old?

Are you even sure that was the issue?

I have answered.

several times.

He was not recruited out of HS.

He sucked his junior year.

He did not stand out until a college level, limited route, spread offense was instituted.

Look more into his numbers.

Than come back.

And yes, I hope he becomes the best Bears WR ever.