Hawks 2010 Off-Season Transactions/Rumors

[BlackHawkPaul]

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[quote name="jakobeast"]Bubble has it right, Stu. People want perfection for the money he's making. It's just not gonna happen. Huet is a fine goalie, and any team with a goalie need should give him a look. I don't think Steeg and Huet will be packaged together, and even if they are, we would have to take some salary back.[/quote]

The Hawks could trade Huet for a salary dump player, and then waive that player at the convenient time.

Stuy was posting on facebook about a rumored buyout. I cannot see the logic in that.



Teams like Philly, St. Louis, Atlanta may give Huet a serious look (although I cannot see the Hawks trading interdivision).



A change of scenery may be the thing to get his head on straight.

 

[Razzberry]

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I'd trade Huet intradivision in a heart beat.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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[quote name="jakobeast"]



I agree on the headcase thing. I would see one goal get by him and his body language would tell the whole story.



How many times did Niemi get the raw deal when it came to his d-men making a mistake? I am NOT blaming the D here, just using your top 3 defense in the NHL. Both goalies were the recipients of whoopsies made by the D. Dunc getting his skate tied up, Hammer not clearing, pucks bouncing off our D guys, and so on. And that was just the Finals. Shit happens. Neither Niemi nor Huet would have stopped those.



I will admit there were some goals Niemi saved that Huet wouldn't have had a chance on. Most goalies wouldn't have made those saves.



I can't base my like of a goalie on simply his save %. It is a stat, but not a super telling stat, just like +/- doesn't tell the whole story.[/quote]



I completely agree! However... if it's THAT exaggerated it HAS to mean something and can't be overlooked. .895% is 45th in league meaning 15 backups had better SV%... and this is over the course of 1000+ shots not just 100 or so.



Same with +/-... you can't judge a player a la Chris Pronger on a couple games where he goes a combined -7. But if someone is -33 for a season, that's pretty telling... same is if someone goes +44 for a season.



Trade Huet in the division to give us 6 free wins! :dance: :dance:



Knowing our luck, he'd pitch a shutout in every one, though.

 

[roshinaya]

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Apparently the Hawks have officially signed Swedish center/wing Niklas Persson out of the KHL. The 31 year old Persson projects as a 3rd line center or wing with superior defensive qualities and outstanding hands. If he is as good as advertised, this could free the Hawks up, perhaps, to make some bigger deals.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/John-Jae ... /128/28807



http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... ?pid=37573



this just a blog post, so who knows.

 

[jakobeast]

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[quote name="Stu Grimson"]



I completely agree! However... if it's THAT exaggerated it HAS to mean something and can't be overlooked. .895% is 45th in league meaning 15 backups had better SV%... and this is over the course of 1000+ shots not just 100 or so.



Same with +/-... you can't judge a player a la Chris Pronger on a couple games where he goes a combined -7. But if someone is -33 for a season, that's pretty telling... same is if someone goes +44 for a season.



Trade Huet in the division to give us 6 free wins! :dance: :dance:



Knowing our luck, he'd pitch a shutout in every one, though.[/quote]



I don't get why seemingly everyone thinks Huet is a slice of swiss cheese. I am not saying he'd give Roy a run for his money, but he is a serviceable goalie. In fact, This was first year Huet was under 8.95, and Roy has had a few of those as well.



Putting him in the Rock is ridiculous. First off, that is no way to treat a vet. 2nd, he is a not that bad. 3rd, sure, maybe he ain't worth 5.6 million a year, but when you call him up (you know they will have to) back to Chicago, he will have to pass waivers(right?). And while he may not be worth 5.6 mill, but he may be worth 2.8 or million to another team, and we will still be on the hook for 2.8, and that can't be what with the cap.



Rockford is not an option.

 

[Larmer83]

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I would not be shocked if Ladd was sent back to Carolina. He was part of their cup run and they liked him.



Speaking of Carolina, lots of cap space available with only 3 dmen under contract. 4 including McBain. Hell, make it 3. Harrison is at best a journeyman D.

 

[supraman]

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[quote name="jakobeast"]



I don't get why seemingly everyone thinks Huet is a slice of swiss cheese. I am not saying he'd give Roy a run for his money, but he is a serviceable goalie. In fact, This was first year Huet was under 8.95, and Roy has had a few of those as well.



Putting him in the Rock is ridiculous. First off, that is no way to treat a vet. 2nd, he is a not that bad. 3rd, sure, maybe he ain't worth 5.6 million a year, but when you call him up (you know they will have to) back to Chicago, he will have to pass waivers(right?). And while he may not be worth 5.6 mill, but he may be worth 2.8 or million to another team, and we will still be on the hook for 2.8, and that can't be what with the cap.



Rockford is not an option.[/quote]



Jako let me ask you this. Are you willing to part ways with Niemi because sending Huet to the minors is not the way to treat a vet? Are you willing to give up your netminder for the next 10 years (less his game goes to shit) for Huet.



I agree it is not the ideal way to treat a vet but the hawks' backs are against the wall and Scooter would be strung up if he let Niemi walk to keep Huet. Huet is a lost cause in Chicago, he is the last of the overpaid free agents. Sure campbell is well compensated but he is one of the best in the business at what he does.

 

[jakobeast]

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[quote name="supraman"]



Jako let me ask you this. Are you willing to part ways with Niemi because sending Huet to the minors is not the way to treat a vet? Are you willing to give up your netminder for the next 10 years (less his game goes to shit) for Huet.



I agree it is not the ideal way to treat a vet but the hawks' backs are against the wall and Scooter would be strung up if he let Niemi walk to keep Huet. Huet is a lost cause in Chicago, he is the last of the overpaid free agents. Sure campbell is well compensated but he is one of the best in the business at what he does.[/quote]



Of course not. I believe Niemi will be a good goalie for a while, but he hasn't played a whole season yet. I have no doubt Niemi can handle it, but you have to be cautious. I don't think Niemi is going anywhere.



Huet to the A isn't gonna solve your problem. I 100% expect a goalie call up next year. It is a long season, and call ups happen. I could see another team claiming Huet off waivers for a little over 2 million, and then we are on the hook for half his salary, and we are screwed cap wise.



The way they deal with this is trade him. From all sources I have seen, there was strong interest in Huet before the trade deadline.



I fully expect and RFA that was involved with the "paperwork snafu" last year to be gone. Steeg I think could fetch a decent pick/prospect. All UFA's will probably be gone.



I am not a capologist, and admittedly know nothing when it comes to this shit. But I just see problems with send Huey to the Rock.

 

[supraman]

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[quote name="jakobeast"]



Of course not. I believe Niemi will be a good goalie for a while, but he hasn't played a whole season yet. I have no doubt Niemi can handle it, but you have to be cautious. I don't think Niemi is going anywhere.



Huet to the A isn't gonna solve your problem. I 100% expect a goalie call up next year. It is a long season, and call ups happen. I could see another team claiming Huet off waivers for a little over 2 million, and then we are on the hook for half his salary, and we are screwed cap wise.



The way they deal with this is trade him. From all sources I have seen, there was strong interest in Huet before the trade deadline.



I fully expect and RFA that was involved with the "paperwork snafu" last year to be gone. Steeg I think could fetch a decent pick/prospect. All UFA's will probably be gone.



I am not a capologist, and admittedly know nothing when it comes to this shit. But I just see problems with send Huey to the Rock.[/quote]



I see your point about eventually needing a goalie call up but in that case, call up the other guy (at this point I think Crawford but that could change). Sucks to be Huet and leave an NHL goalie in the minors but even if we need a call up, we can't really call him up so you grab his backup.

 

[Tim]

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I would think a GM might take on Huet or BC if packaged with a top 6 forward and a pick or prospect.

Unfortunately Sharpie fits the bill.



If Zito plays hardball Niemi could be gone as well. Should be a very interesting offseason.



No matter what, they won the prize, the nucleus is in tact, and we all knew there would be changes due to the Cap.

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

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[quote name="Stu Grimson"]



.895 SV% on a team with a top 3 defense in the league... not a fine goalie. He'd be run out of this league at this stage in his career if he were on a team with a bad defense.



How many times did the Blackhawks outshoot and score enough goals to win but Huet let in 3-4 goals in under 20 shots?



His GAA is good because of the defense... how come he is 12th in the league in GAA but 45th in SV%? Because he as an individual goaltender is not as good as he used to be.



Unfortunately his tragic flaw is that he's a head case... one bad game/goal and all goes to shit... not exactly the mental make up any team wants in a starting goalie.



He's a great backup no doubt... but no one is going to take him with that contract.[/quote]







Just something to think about with the "Huet Debate" - That 'Hawks defense is a team defense designed to reduced the number of shots that the opponent takes (which they do very well), but sucks major ass when it comes to rebounds. How many goals did both 'Hawks goalies give up when the team defense allowed 2 or more rebounds (i.e., could not clear the zone after the first rebound).



That is why Huet's GAA looks good, and his SV% looks bad. Where did Niemi's playoff stats go in the finals...oh yea much further south than they were earlier because Philly (and the Sharks too), were a team that really can capitalize on those rebounds and poor team d to control them.



Throw the above perspective in and perhaps someone like Huet is not that bad, and would be better on a team that has d-men that play more at home, or are more adept at helping to control the rebounds.

 

[MassHavoc]

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The thing I'm waiting to see is if Scotty messes something minor up, like ohhh say sending out the QO's in time, will he be shown the door?

 

[Five_Hole]

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http://bit.ly/cOBHco

The Chicago Blackhawks have signed center Mathis Olimb to a one-year contract.



Olimb, 24, spent the 2009-10 season with Frolunda of the Swedish Elite League, leading the team with 25 assists and ranking third with 34 points in 55 regular-season contests. He added four points (G,3A) in seven postseason games. Previously Olimb registered 80 points (27G,53A) in 97 regular-season contests from 2007-09 with Augsburg in the Deutsche Eishockey Liga.



The Oslo, Norway, native represented his country in the 2010 Olympic Winter Games, ranking second on the club with two assists in four contests in Vancouver. Olimb has logged extensive international experience, skating for Norway in several World Junior Championship and World Championship tournaments during his career.



Olimb spent the 2004-05 season in North America in the Ontario Hockey League. He skated in 57 games with the Sarnia Sting and London Knights, where he was a teammate of Blackhawks forward Dave Bolland.

 

[phranchk]

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[quote name="Five_Hole"]http://bit.ly/cOBHco



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Someone already beat you to that. It's the very first post of this thread.

 

[Five_Hole]

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[quote name="phranchk"]

Someone already beat you to that. It's the very first post of this thread.[/quote]



Damn. Well that's a link to the Blackhawks official press release (which wasn't included in the first post). I guess I shouldn't be surprised they waited three days to officially announce it.

 

[MassHavoc]

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[quote name="Five_Hole"]http://bit.ly/cOBHco[/quote]

That chick is hot.

 

[Tater]

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[quote name="MassHavoc"]

That chick is hot.[/quote]



I always knew you'd go for the Martha Stewart-looking type.

 

[MassHavoc]

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[quote name="Tater"]



I always knew you'd go for the Martha Stewart-looking type.[/quote]

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[Tater]

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[quote name="MassHavoc"]

WHOOOOO WHOOOOAAA WHOOAA there ******... YOUNG Martha Stewart.[/quote]



My bad.

 

[Ton]

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Off season signing tracker has been added to the main page, please feel free to PM me if anyone has any questions, comments, or problems.