Hawks 2010 Off-Season Transactions/Rumors

[Guest]

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[quote name="jakobeast"]



I don't get why seemingly everyone thinks Huet is a slice of swiss cheese. I am not saying he'd give Roy a run for his money, but he is a serviceable goalie. In fact, This was first year Huet was under 8.95, and Roy has had a few of those as well.



Putting him in the Rock is ridiculous. First off, that is no way to treat a vet. 2nd, he is a not that bad. 3rd, sure, maybe he ain't worth 5.6 million a year, but when you call him up (you know they will have to) back to Chicago, he will have to pass waivers(right?). And while he may not be worth 5.6 mill, but he may be worth 2.8 or million to another team, and we will still be on the hook for 2.8, and that can't be what with the cap.



Rockford is not an option.[/quote]





First off this is a big boys league. If he can't play at that level in the NHL and hurts the team Rockford most certainly is an option. Second why would they "have too" recall him? They wouldn't as long as Rocky is willing to eat his salary that way verses BUYING HIM out and taking a CAP HIT FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. In fact that's the BEST scenario for Huet unless they find a sucker to trade him out right. The Buyout hurts the team, while reassigning him to Rockford does not. He could easily leave there for the KHL without us eating ANYTHING!



Rockford most certainly is an option. You can bet the hair you are going to shave off they've talked about it, verses buying him out (eating 1/4 of the salary for the next FOUR YEARS), and or recalling him and eating half the salary for two more years.

 

[Guest]

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[quote name="BiscuitintheBasket"]







Just something to think about with the "Huet Debate" - That 'Hawks defense is a team defense designed to reduced the number of shots that the opponent takes (which they do very well), but sucks major ass when it comes to rebounds. How many goals did both 'Hawks goalies give up when the team defense allowed 2 or more rebounds (i.e., could not clear the zone after the first rebound).



That is why Huet's GAA looks good, and his SV% looks bad. Where did Niemi's playoff stats go in the finals...oh yea much further south than they were earlier because Philly (and the Sharks too), were a team that really can capitalize on those rebounds and poor team d to control them.



Throw the above perspective in and perhaps someone like Huet is not that bad, and would be better on a team that has d-men that play more at home, or are more adept at helping to control the rebounds.[/quote]





Biggest difference between Huet and Niemi is that Niemi made the big save when he had too. Much more consistently than Huet did.



Flyers have three lines that can score. Which is why the Finals was like no other series we played. Sharks have one very good line. Canucks had one very good line, and the Preds, well, they play trap defense for a reason.



I don't think Niemi's playoffs stats have any reflection that correlates him to Huet. Niemi could, where Huet couldn't. It's just that easy.

 

[Tim]

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Niemi can let go of a bad goal or bad game and bounce back.

 

[Bhawks35]

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The bigger question is what will we have to pay for Niemi? Even though he is a RFA, he will be getting offers that we will have to match.

 

[Guest]

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[quote name="Bhawks35"]The bigger question is what will we have to pay for Niemi? Even though he is a RFA, he will be getting offers that we will have to match.[/quote]



He's been taken to Arbitration. All you have to worry about is Hjarlmarsson from that stand point.

 

[5Minutes4Fighting]

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Let's face it, there are a shitload of dumb gm's (never said Dale was the only one) who will grossly overpay an average goalie who just won the Cup or had a hot season, or eve a hot couple of months (like Huet in sping 2008) Of course the best example is the contract Tallon gave to Khabby. (4 years, 27 million.) The current Blackhawks braintrust knows that Antti is only worth a very small fraction of that.



there are a LOT of average goalies who are grossly overpaid based on one good season or celebrated playoff run on their resume. Actually if you look at the 10 highest paid goalies, you are looking at teams that either didn't make the playoffs, or got medicore goaltending and got knocked out. Meantime, 4 of the 5 goalies in the conference semifinals (Niemi, Halak, Leighton, Boucher, Nabby) were backups when the season started making peanuts.



Only way we keep Niemi is if he takes a fraction of what he could make somewhere else. If we lose him, I won't lose a minutes sleep over it. Actually if Antti bolts, i think he'll most likely be setting himself up for personal failure. But money does talk.



-5Minutes

 

[suomistewart]

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[quote name="R K"]



He's been taken to Arbitration. All you have to worry about is Hjarlmarsson from that stand point.[/quote]



Has anything else come out about Neimi going to arbitration? Hockeybuzz.com cap page is the only site that lists him as having an arbitration pending. I certainly won't surprise me if he or the team files for arbitration, but I don't trust Hockeybuzz/eklund

 

[bubbleheadchief]

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Here's a question that I am not sure has been asked about Huet. Can we just send him down to Rockford or does he have to clear waivers 1st? If for some reason he needs to clear waivers, is the team not still responsible for half his salary? And doesn't that still count against the cap? Sorry I am being a bit of a dumbass about this one, I am just drawing a blank on the rules as far as this situation goes IRT the CBA/cap.



And sorry too, if Huet does go away, I am not comfortable with Niemi and Crawford as our 1 and 2, not in the least.

 

[DBQHawkFan]

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[quote name="bubbleheadchief"]Here's a question that I am not sure has been asked about Huet. Can we just send him down to Rockford or does he have to clear waivers 1st? If for some reason he needs to clear waivers, is the team not still responsible for half his salary? And doesn't that still count against the cap? Sorry I am being a bit of a dumbass about this one, I am just drawing a blank on the rules as far as this situation goes IRT the CBA/cap.



And sorry too, if Huet does go away, I am not comfortable with Niemi and Crawford as our 1 and 2, not in the least.[/quote]



I believe that he has to clear waivers. If a team picks him up on the way down, they take on all of his salary. If he is down there and the Hawks recall him, he has to pass through reentry waivers. Any team can claim him on reentry and the Hawks are on the hook for 1/2 his remaining salary.

 

[DBQHawkFan]

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[quote name="5Minutes4Fighting"]Let's face it, there are a shitload of dumb gm's (never said Dale was the only one) who will grossly overpay an average goalie who just won the Cup or had a hot season, or eve a hot couple of months (like Huet in sping 2008) Of course the best example is the contract Tallon gave to Khabby. (4 years, 27 million.) The current Blackhawks braintrust knows that Antti is only worth a very small fraction of that.



there are a LOT of average goalies who are grossly overpaid based on one good season or celebrated playoff run on their resume. Actually if you look at the 10 highest paid goalies, you are looking at teams that either didn't make the playoffs, or got medicore goaltending and got knocked out. Meantime, 4 of the 5 goalies in the conference semifinals (Niemi, Halak, Leighton, Boucher, Nabby) were backups when the season started making peanuts.



Only way we keep Niemi is if he takes a fraction of what he could make somewhere else. If we lose him, I won't lose a minutes sleep over it. Actually if Antti bolts, i think he'll most likely be setting himself up for personal failure. But money does talk.



-5Minutes[/quote]



Please keep in mind that when the Hawks signed Habby, no free agents wanted to come to Chicago. Dale had to over pay. Without him in net last year, we don't get as far as we did. He was huge and the experience the other players gained from that run is the reason we have the cup today! I bet there were conversations with him in free agency last year to resign him if they could have dumped Huet. They couldn't and he signed with the Oilers. You seem to blame only Dale for the Campbell and Huet signings. I have heard strong rumors that McD was the one that wanted both of them.

 

[Guest]

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Campbell was Dale's and A HUGE factor in just winning the Stanley Cup. Larry feels the need to bash Tallon every chance he gets, yet at the same time cherrishes the Hawks just winning the fucking cup.



Without Campbell this team might nowt have made it past the 1st round. Without Campbell this team is coming back to Chicago for game 7. Yea they are desparate to get rid of him. Ask Larry which Blackhawk Exec told him that? It's not true.



Don't throw facts out there about how NO ONE in the fucking world wanted to play for the Hawks. That has no merit.



Again Larry every time you see the 2010 Stanley Cup Champs you can thank DALE TALLON for it.



I'll wait for my 5 paragraph response. LOL! :shhh:

 

[DBQHawkFan]

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[quote name="R K"]Campbell was Dale's and A HUGE factor in just winning the Stanley Cup. Larry feels the need to bash Tallon every chance he gets, yet at the same time cherrishes the Hawks just winning the fucking cup.



Without Campbell this team might nowt have made it past the 1st round. Without Campbell this team is coming back to Chicago for game 7. Yea they are desparate to get rid of him. Ask Larry which Blackhawk Exec told him that? It's not true.



Don't throw facts out there about how NO ONE in the fucking world wanted to play for the Hawks. That has no merit.



Again Larry every time you see the 2010 Stanley Cup Champs you can thank DALE TALLON for it.



I'll wait for my 5 paragraph response. LOL! :shhh:[/quote]



I guess it was more of a perception on my part. Not fact. Sorry for going off on a tangent. Your right though. I forgot that we signed Aucoin, Cullimore, Brown and LaPointe. Some real gems in that lot. Never was a fan of Aucoin (injuries or not) and Cullimore is/was terrible. Brown....1 season and gone. Lapointe was pretty much done when we got him.

 

[Guest]

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[quote name="DBQHawkFan"]



I guess it was more of a perception on my part. Not fact. Sorry for going off on a tangent. Your right though. I forgot that we signed Aucoin, Cullimore, Brown and LaPointe. Some real gems in that lot. Never was a fan of Aucoin (injuries or not) and Cullimore is/was terrible. Brown....1 season and gone. Lapointe was pretty much done when we got him.[/quote]





Coming out of the lockout it was just as much Pulford as Tallon. Everything Tallon did had to be approved. Ironic that was Pulfords last year calling shots, not really. In fact Tallon took all the blame for it. From that point on he and Dudley built the team that just won the Stanley Cup. I find it funny some will bash him then enjoy the Cup he brought to Chicago for the first time in 49 years.



Point all the fualts anyone "might" think he had there is a shiney silver trophy running around town that says **** YOU to all of them. The same trophy some of them are enjoying as so called "Hawk fans". Yup.

 

[DBQHawkFan]

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[quote name="R K"]





Coming out of the lockout it was just as much Pulford as Tallon. Everything Tallon did had to be approved. Ironic that was Pulfords last year calling shots, not really. In fact Tallon took all the blame for it. From that point on he and Dudley built the team that just won the Stanley Cup. I find it funny some will bash him then enjoy the Cup he brought to Chicago for the first time in 49 years.



Point all the fualts anyone "might" think he had there is a shiney silver trophy running around town that says **** YOU to all of them. The same trophy some of them are enjoying as so called "Hawk fans". Yup.[/quote]



Easy there RK. No need to be so confrontational. I am just saying they had a hard time getting quality free agents to come to Chicago a few years back. Not blaming Dale for what transpired back then. He did what he thought he had to do to get the Hawk's to be a competitive team. I never questrioned the fact that the team that won the cup was his team. He did a hell of a job getting this team assembled. And he got screwed over for it.

 

[Guest]

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[quote name="DBQHawkFan"]



Easy there RK. No need to be so confrontational. I am just saying they had a hard time getting quality free agents to come to Chicago a few years back. Not blaming Dale for what transpired back then. He did what he thought he had to do to get the Hawk's to be a competitive team. I never questrioned the fact that the team that won the cup was his team. He did a hell of a job getting this team assembled. And he got screwed over for it.[/quote]





I agree with you. Not confrontational. That was more information for the guy with nothing better to do that slam the guy that just enabled him to see Chicago win it's first Stanley Cup in 49 years. :dance:

 

[phranchk]

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Blackhawks have signed Marcus Kruger to a 3 year entry level contract. This kids got some potential. He played well in the Swedish Elite League last year and was only 19.

Blackhawks sign 2009 draft pick Marcus Kruger

Friday, 06.18.2010 / 3:25 PM / News

By Chicago Blackhawks

Marcus Kruger

The Chicago Blackhawks have signed center Marcus Kruger to a three-year contract.



Kruger, 20, ranked second on Djurgardens IF of the Swedish Elite League with 31 points (11G, 20A) in 38 regular-season games in 2009-10 before adding 10 points (3G, 7A) in 16 playoff tilts. Chicago’s fifth selection, 149th overall, in the 2009 National Hockey League Entry Draft, Kruger finished as a finalist for the league’s rookie of the year award.



The Stockholm, Sweden, native earned a Bronze Medal skating for his native country in the 2010 World Junior Championships in Saskatchewan. He ranked third on Sweden with six assists in six contests, and seventh in the entire tournament with a +7 plus/minus rating.

 

[Shredder]

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Krüger has always reminded me of Bolland when I've watched him. Not fast, but a very good all-round player.



...and terrible on faceoffs.

 

[Larmer83]

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Taken from the HF Boards...

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/L ... story.html



If any team wants Kris Versteeg, here's the likely scenario the Chicago Blackhawks are pitching: They will give him up for a second-round pick, but the team getting the winger also has to take defenceman Brent Sopel's $2.2 million contract off their hands.

 

[5Minutes4Fighting]

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One problem with dealing with Huet is he is a backup goalie. Last year, he was handed the job (after khabby was put on waivers) but was the backup before you knew it. Then this year, he lost the starting job to a rookie who barely made the team. Any team thinking about picking him up has got to be concerned he is going to lose the starting job no matter who the other goalie is. So who wants to pay $5.6 mill for a back up? Dealing him will be hard.



fAct is Huet signed the contract to get paid $5.6 mill a year, but his level of play is FAR short of that. Only HUET himself is to blame for that, so now he must accept the consequences. Perhaps the best thing for him personally and professionally may be to go back to play in europe. But i have no idea how that would affect the salary cap. One thing for sure, having him wear the Indian Head next year is not an option.



The hawks will try their hardest to deal him and are willing to take nothing in return. But if there is NOBODY that will take him, if the hawks send him to Rockford, you can't say that is no way to treat a vet. If not a single NHL team wants him, that says it all.



-5Minutes

 

[5Minutes4Fighting]

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[quote name="Larmer83"]Taken from the HF Boards...

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/L ... story.html



If any team wants Kris Versteeg, here's the likely scenario the Chicago Blackhawks are pitching: They will give him up for a second-round pick, but the team getting the winger also has to take defenceman Brent Sopel's $2.2 million contract off their hands.[/quote]

Wow, I have a hard time believing that is true. You got to think the Hawks would at least want a prospect thrown in. And I'm sure there is a much better way to dump Sopel's contract. I bet Rozner picks up this story tomorrow.



-5Minutes