Hawks vs Sabres 6:00

[ruprecht]

Anybody have video of Dach running Reinhart. Lol

 

[ruprecht]

I would have liked to see Dach get rewarded with some PP time. Maybe next game!

Yeah, instead of Shaw

 

[Tater]

Yeah, instead of Shaw

Or Nylander.

 

[Granada]

Less than 40SA! Someone stop the press!

Seriously, good job boys!

Good call. Should have been a shut-out too, had De Haan not shat himself. What in the hell was he thinking? All he needed to do was chip it out or just shield it out of the zone, he had the entire boards open. He looked like an utter rookie on that play.

Anyways, I was glad the Hawks didn't give up the 40 mark in shots against. If they can get it to 30 and below, I'll be a happy camper.

 

[MassHavoc]

Interesting to see no real praise for Crow in this one considering how much he gets shit on.

 

[MassHavoc]

Hawks have points in 7 of the last 8 games. and a total of 13 of a possible 16 points.

 

[anotheridiot]

Anybody have video of Dach running Reinhart. Lol

I have a hard time thinking he really ran at him. Yeah, he left the ice after his stick was slashed out of his hands, but was looking away and it was just a collision. He embellished a little when he knew he was going to run into him.

 

[Granada]

Hawks have points in 7 of the last 8 games. and a total of 13 of a possible 16 points.

Yes and another way to look at it: they've taken points in every game in the month of November but one.

The next 6 games are huge, especially the 2 home/home series against Colorado and Dallas.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Good call. Should have been a shut-out too, had De Haan not shat himself. What in the hell was he thinking? All he needed to do was chip it out or just shield it out of the zone, he had the entire boards open. He looked like an utter rookie on that play.

Anyways, I was glad the Hawks didn't give up the 40 mark in shots against. If they can get it to 30 and below, I'll be a happy camper.

JC's boy wants to be the only one to run his system and brown nose but that caught him in between decisions.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Yes and another way to look at it: they've taken points in every game in the month of November but one.

The next 6 games are huge, especially the 2 home/home series against Colorado and Dallas.

Colorado fell way off from their start but still Makar vs Hawks defensive speed scares the shit out of me.

Dallas gets behind a hot Bishop and just fucks everyone. 8-1-1 last 10, but we can double team Bishop in that one with Lehnar/Crow being just a slight drop off, but a fair fight and he has to play both to match us.

 

[DaHawkz24]

Dallas gets behind a hot Bishop and just fucks everyone. 8-1-1 last 10, but we can double team Bishop in that one with Lehnar/Crow being just a slight drop off, but a fair fight and he has to play both to match us.

Kevin Weeks did a 'Top 5 Goalie Tandem' list last night, and I was very disappointed that he didn't include the Hawks. Bishop and Khudobin were on it though!

 

[Raskolnikov]

Kevin Weeks did a 'Top 5 Goalie Tandem' list last night, and I was very disappointed that he didn't include the Hawks. Bishop and Khudobin were on it though!

Crow has been pretty good and Lehner deserves to be in the 5. Our guys are facing way too many shots.

Each have had a few soft goals, but they make 5 great saves for each of those. Just too much pressure.

 

[LordKOTL]

Good call. Should have been a shut-out too, had De Haan not shat himself. What in the hell was he thinking? All he needed to do was chip it out or just shield it out of the zone, he had the entire boards open. He looked like an utter rookie on that play.

Anyways, I was glad the Hawks didn't give up the 40 mark in shots against. If they can get it to 30 and below, I'll be a happy camper.

I just did a quick-and-dirty crunching of the numbers for the average shots against per game for the league in the cap era up through last season (not yet including this season). It's about 30.31 SA/GP. It's only been the past 4 years (2015-16 through last season) that the 'hawks have been above that number--and only the past 3 significantly. Naturally, 2010 and 2013 have been our best seasons in shot suppression--and the results are evident

Right now we're sitting on this season as an average of 37.1 SA. That's bad.

 

[blackpep72]

Hawks have points in 7 of the last 8 games. and a total of 13 of a possible 16 points.

Lets hope they can keep the winning streak going a few more games

 

[blackpep72]

I just did a quick-and-dirty crunching of the numbers for the average shots against per game for the league in the cap era up through last season (not yet including this season). It's about 30.31 SA/GP. It's only been the past 4 years (2015-16 through last season) that the 'hawks have been above that number--and only the past 3 significantly. Naturally, 2010 and 2013 have been our best seasons in shot suppression--and the results are evident

Right now we're sitting on this season as an average of 37.1 SA. That's bad.

Thanks for the numbers Lord. With that amount of SA the goalie has to be mvp each game.
That is not a formula for a playoff team.

 

[Tater]

Hopefully they can get a win or two in the next couple games. The Dallas and Col. gmes are gonna be tough/divisional.

 

[Granada]

Colorado fell way off from their start but still Makar vs Hawks defensive speed scares the shit out of me.

Dallas gets behind a hot Bishop and just fucks everyone. 8-1-1 last 10, but we can double team Bishop in that one with Lehnar/Crow being just a slight drop off, but a fair fight and he has to play both to match us.

Yeah, Dallas had a shit start but I had a feeling they would turn it around eventually. Same with San Jose, they're on a 6 game winning streak.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I just did a quick-and-dirty crunching of the numbers for the average shots against per game for the league in the cap era up through last season (not yet including this season). It's about 30.31 SA/GP. It's only been the past 4 years (2015-16 through last season) that the 'hawks have been above that number--and only the past 3 significantly. Naturally, 2010 and 2013 have been our best seasons in shot suppression--and the results are evident

Right now we're sitting on this season as an average of 37.1 SA. That's bad.

do we have an idea of "how bad" 37.1 is?

1. Are we talking wake up in a Cambodian opium house somewhere in the underbelly of Vegas after a blackout night and try to play the Golden Knights bad? (how many shots did Vegas average on home ice per game in their inaugural season?)

2. Are we talking post Gretsky Edmonton bad?

Is 37.1 historically bad or a bad team defense near the bottom of league?

Taking into account around the league increase with pace of play and 3vs3 overtimes...maybe even historically bad doesn't quite mean what it seems.

So is JC a puppet coach now? Does he have a role? Gameday line tactician, matchup analyst? This is kinda like a young player situation, who isn't good enough to get playing time in NHL but the press box stunts their growth.

Can you send JC back to Rockford to season up a few more years? lol.

If this fails Stan needs to finally take the axe. No more protection. The decision to keep a coach and not let them coach would not pass the smell test if their is a train wreck.

Its a unique situation though with a veteran team and then some green players that probably do take to his coaching. But to tell the young kids to throw everything out you taught them is ....

no words. Maybe our best shot is to stick with continuity, let the vets run the Q way on offense and tweak the defense under JC's supervision. ???

I'm just gonna back off about it but its a very weird situation. Its a weird team too, so that might fit. This is the last gasp of the dynasty. I have a feeling a new coach, maybe new GM...next time we make a major change this thing is going to get blowed the **** up to the extreme.

 

[Granada]

do we have an idea of "how bad" 37.1 is?

1. Are we talking wake up in a Cambodian opium house somewhere in the underbelly of Vegas after a blackout night and try to play the Golden Knights bad? (how many shots does Vegas average on home ice per game?)

2. Are we talking post Gretsky Edmonton bad?

Is 37.1 historically bad or a bad team defense near the bottom of league?

Taking into account around the league increase with pace of play and 3vs3 overtimes...maybe even historically bad doesn't quite mean what it seems.

So is JC a puppet coach now? Does he have a role? Gameday line tactician, matchup analyst? This is kinda like a young player situation, who isn't good enough to get playing time in NHL but the press box stunts their growth.

Can you send JC back to Rockford to season up a few more years? lol.

If this fails Stan needs to finally take the axe. No more protection. The decision to keep a coach and not let them coach would not pass the smell test if their is a train wreck.

Its a unique situation though with a veteran team and then some green players that probably do take to his coaching. But to tell the young kids to throw everything out you taught them is ....

no words. Maybe our best shot is to stick with continuity, let the vets run the Q way on offense and tweak the defense under JC's supervision. ???

I'm just gonna back off about it but its a very weird situation. Its a weird team too, so that might fit. This is the last gasp of the dynasty. I have a feeling a new coach, maybe new GM...next time we make a major change this thing is going to get blowed the **** up to the extreme.

Another thing to consider is this: do you remember last year when the Hawks looked decent and it coincided with Kane absolutely tearing it up offensively (as he's doing now)? I hope I'm wrong, but this feels similar now; I'm almost waiting for the team to dry up offensively (just like they did last year) if Kane can't carry the load. That isn't to downplay the recent contributions of the 2nd line as a whole in particular, but Kane is the straw that stirs the drink on this team -- if he has a cold streak and the offense as a whole dries up, it will get ugly, considering where this team stands defensively.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Another thing to consider is this: do you remember last year when the Hawks looked decent and it coincided with Kane absolutely tearing it up offensively (as he's doing now)? I hope I'm wrong, but this feels similar now; I'm almost waiting for the team to dry up offensively (just like they did last year) if Kane can't carry the load. That isn't to downplay the recent contributions of the 2nd line as a whole in particular, but Kane is the straw that stirs the drink on this team -- if he has a cold streak and the offense as a whole dries up, it will get ugly, considering where this team stands defensively.

Kane having a cold streak is low on my list of worries. He might be the American GOAT. His passing will always stir the drink if he is on the ice. He could play to 45 if he wants as he takes minimal damage and speed is not his game.

The issue is Kane is not enough. One of the other lines needs to produce consistently.

Have they tried Saad-Toews-Kubalik yet?

Saad-Toews-Kubalik
Cat-Strome-Kane
Shaw-Dach-Kampf
Jewels-Carp-Smith


Nylander just feels like fools gold to me. I can't put my finger on it but he seems hesitant to carry the puck, and while he likes to harrass on the forecheck and gets a fair number of steals he lets alot of people get behind him.

I'm cool with him on the third or fourth line but I haven't seen him click enough with Toews or a work ethic to warrant those kind of minutes. Gotta get Toews going, give him Saad and Kubalik and no excuses.