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[BlackHawkPaul]

http://www.vimeo.com/20276233



Beyond the Basement Door trailer.

Enjoy.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Well, we finished "The Drone" tonight and will be sending it off to Cannes in a short bit.

I will inform you all when we have a public showing (one will be in the Loop).

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Trailer for The Drone.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

http://vimeo.com/27892405

Promotional trailer for my MFA thesis film.

I'd like to hear thoughts.

 

[tvltre]

Seriously Paul! Nice job on the trailer. Really very interested in seeing the film!

 

[MassHavoc]

Paul I think it's a great trailer and I don't want to offend because I know we've discussed before but I can't remember exactly, but what was your relationship with Charity before this movie? Or even the idea, because I believe you've been evolving/ working on this a long time.



The reason I ask is because with this type of film, especially the way you set it up as an even ground type movie that is just trying to say both sides, to let your impartial bias show through. I know you have some really strong feelings on this subject imparticular, so I was just wondering if you would give a little full disclosure and catch me up on the background of how you got involved. To me, I just don't know if I could be balanced on a topic I am so passionate about. And yet you have to be passionate about it to do a good job. I'm actually interested in seeing the long form of this video to see how well you were able to tell both sides of this story (as I believe it is your intention? I may be wrong.) I just have a hard time believing and through no fault of yours, that this movie or any movie with as powerful of topic, can be made in a way that isn't going to have some sort of bias exhibited through the lens to the viewer.



And like I said I'm not saying it's wrong or bad, as I"m not sure I"ve seen any movie/doc be able to do it completely well, they all seem to have some sort of agenda. I think we had a thread about it already but I was too lazy to dig it up so if you wouldn't mind indulging me I'd appreciate it.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Mass, it's a struggle as a documentary filmmaker.

You want to be as close to that middle line as humanly possible, but one clip-- one sound bite can throw that astray.



Charity and my wife grew up as best friends in rural Indiana.

Charity's life went one way, my wife's the other (lucky for me).



My point of this film is to make Charity's voice heard. Is she sorry? What are her feelings 10+ years later? I have exclusive rights to her story, and I want to tell it. During the trial she was advised to plead the 5th. That actually hurt her more than it helped. The judge more or less said she was a monster without remorse. The people that she involved in her life used her and spit her out, leaving 3 dead in a small town.



Families of Charity and the victims that lost their lives were altered forever.

Is Charity a monster? Did she hatch this plan? Was it just a chance meeting with the trigger men that went sour?



I plan on getting pro and con Charity interviews. I want to sit down with the people that lost. I want to hear their stories. I want to see if they are ever capable of forgiving charity for what happened that day in September of 2000.



Documentaries always have an agenda. Mine is that Charity now has a voice. Will she use it to try and heal the bridges burned? If you were a family member that lost a loved one in that tragedy, could you forgive her?

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

http://www.jasonhuls.com/

This is the other film I'm working on as director of photography.

I will need help Sunday/Monday in the city if anyone is interested. Monroe Harbor. Hit me up if interested.

 

[MassHavoc]

Thanks for the response, it's much appreciated. I am really interested in seeing the final product. Being from Elkhart I was in my sophomore year of college when this happen and I remember it hitting a little too close to home. for my tastes.



As for monroe harbor, shoot me a PM with the details and I might be able to help out.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Mass, did you know any of the victims or family members? Even if you have an opinion opposite of Charity (plus you're from the area), I'd like to get your opinion on film.

That would benefit the film.

PM me your contact info if you want to talk about it.

 

[Kerfuffle]

Nice trailer - I feel inadequate now cause I struggle with editing home movies with Photoshop software.



Is this documentary going to be on TV at all and if so when?

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

There may be talks in expanding it to broadcast lengths, but for the meantime it will be 20-25 minutes.

 

[Kerfuffle]

There may be talks in expanding it to broadcast lengths, but for the meantime it will be 20-25 minutes.

Watching the trailer it seemed like a perfect fit for that Bill Curtis show 'American Justice' on the A&E channel. Right along those lines. It's a good show but I don't have a clue how you would take it to the mainstream TV side. Good luck!

 

[agenthehe]

Time for a hijacking... Has anyone seen "There's Something Wrong With Aunt Diane" on HBO. It came out earlier this summer on the 2 year anniversary of it happening, a mom who the labs show had high levels of THC and a BAL of .19 drove the wrong way on the Tatonic Parkway in the Hudson Valley in NY killing the 4 girls in her car (her daughter and 3 nieces) and herself (her son survived) and killed 3 adult males in the car she hit (though her family is in strong denial). Also a side note for Stern fans, their lawyer is Dominic Barbara a long time outside show caller/contributor and Stern friend.



Again you can see them trying to walk an even line but being more from the families side a hair, good but hard to watch (they show Diane's actually body right after the crash on the side of the road).



Anyways every story has a side and no matter what side on that one it's sad and chilling, but worth the watch imo. So that was the long way of me saying, I found your trailer very interesting as well Paul and look forward to seeing the film in it's current length and if it were to ever become longer as well.

 

[MassHavoc]

Mass, did you know any of the victims or family members? Even if you have an opinion opposite of Charity (plus you're from the area), I'd like to get your opinion on film.

That would benefit the film.

PM me your contact info if you want to talk about it.

No, not directly, I just remember how big of a story it was, or at least that's how I remember it. I remember thinking it strange, it wasn't the normal murders we were used to on the news from South Bend and Elkhart, that was usually straight gang or domestic stuff, drugs involved. Hadn't really thought about master criminal plans and such. It hit home, because while Lakeville is smaller it wasn't so much different than elkhart. It kinda shoot the reality that as long as you keep your nose clean what bad could happen? It was just one of those "no fucking way that shit happens around here momoents. I doubt that I would have much to add.



I basically at Monroe Harbor so depending on what you need I may be able to help out.

 

[MassHavoc]

BHP, I had a genius idea for a documentary. I want to run for office. I want ever step of it documented. Including if by some miracle I won. I want the documentary to show how the system itself is flawed to keep out those who don't bend and break the rules. I want to run a campaign fully on the input of the constituents. I want no corporate money... so that none of my votes can be influenced by handout, I want to show if it's even possible to run a clean campaign, and if it's not I want it all documented to show the flaws... I just think it would be interesting to come up with some concept of a normal person running for office who only cares about getting things done, and how much the system itself works against them to make it impossible to become nothing other than a run of the mill politician that trades favors for getting things done. I want to put all of my beliefs down on paper before hand and see if at any time I change my mind on any position without good reason or debate as to why I should.



I'm sure their have been other things like this done, but maybe not in the dirtiest state? Could we get a grant for this? I'm thinking Alderman might be the best position to run for... come on... let's do this you know you want to. We have a built in IHN campaign vehicle. Everyone here could be invited onto staff if they want. Can you imagine... a bipartisan staff? No issue would have a side not exposed. I think the story of a regular guy fed up with the lies, cheats, bribes, and systems, trying to break in to even see if changes could be made, would be one hell of a documentary.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Sounds interesting.

The documentary itself would run into costs itself-- especially if we wanted to run 24/7 coverage just in case something breaks.

Even if it's for something that only 1000 people vote for, it would be eye opening to watch the process.

We could apply for grants. Indiegogo, and other sites would be interesting to do as a way to get people that agree with you to help fund. There's probably a way to make it anonymous, so that you're not biased into making decisions just in case Pepsi wants to throw in sponsor $$.



You could have a poster of Illinois with an old map with fading roads and call it Campaign Trail

 

[supraman]

When you become president can I be the secretary of the war department? (Yeah war, defense sounds panzy)

 

[MassHavoc]

Sounds interesting.

The documentary itself would run into costs itself-- especially if we wanted to run 24/7 coverage just in case something breaks.

Even if it's for something that only 1000 people vote for, it would be eye opening to watch the process.

We could apply for grants. Indiegogo, and other sites would be interesting to do as a way to get people that agree with you to help fund. There's probably a way to make it anonymous, so that you're not biased into making decisions just in case Pepsi wants to throw in sponsor $$.



You could have a poster of Illinois with an old map with fading roads and call it Campaign Trail

Nice, I'm liking it, and I forgot to mention that while I was throwing it all out there I still have so much in my head just swirling around whether good or bad. It kind of hit me last night and I really haven't been able to properly think about it and wanted to throw it out somewhere before I forgot the idea. I do want to say that I think it's a great idea and would be dead serious about being the guinea pig for this. And I realize it's something that could take forever to get off the ground, but there is so much I'd want to explore and obviously wouldn't know where to start. But I think it would be great for someone like me who is neither a filmmaker or a politician to delve into a documentary about being a politician.



I think the goal for me overall would be to expose the process as exactly what it is, and also encourage others to seek the same truths and be more actively involved. I haven't the foggiest idea on how to do any of this but I would be so on board.



Supra, yes, you can, but I will be merging it with my department of video games so essentially you'd be involved in making sure that COD 45 runs well.

 

[MassHavoc]

Also, I think a big thing for me is that the entire process of getting involved in politics seems overly complicated and hard for the average people so I think most people shy away from even thinking about running for a position. I would like to explore this and see if it really is all that hard and scare, and hopefully would use this idea to help quell those fears and have normal people seek out positions in office more often instead of people looking to get into politics for the power and money.