Houston and Allen's future in Chicago

Mongo_76

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Houston I am willing to give more time too.

But if we can get out of Allen's deal at the end of the season we should.


2008 Cleveland Browns Total sacks by DE's (all) -> 3.5

2009 Jacksonville Jaguars Total sacks by DE's (all) - > 2.0

2010 Jacksonville Jaguars Total sacks by DE's (all) - >11.0

2011 Jacksonville Jaguars Total sacks by DE's (all) - > 7.0

2012 Jacksonville Jaguars Total sacks by DE's (all) - > 7.5


You guys are pointing your fingers at the wrong guys.
 

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2008 Cleveland Browns Total sacks by DE's (all) -> 3.5

2009 Jacksonville Jaguars Total sacks by DE's (all) - > 2.0

2010 Jacksonville Jaguars Total sacks by DE's (all) - >11.0

2011 Jacksonville Jaguars Total sacks by DE's (all) - > 7.0

2012 Jacksonville Jaguars Total sacks by DE's (all) - > 7.5


You guys are pointing your fingers at the wrong guys.

Those were garbage teams.

Not defending Tucker but it is the Jaguars.
 

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There was many who said that.. I don't think the claim you got shouted down would be accurate, especially how it was on this place.

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I wouldn't say I got flamed but no one agreed with me. Everyone said he's a future hall of famer who got 11 sacks last year and will make us forget about Peppers.
 

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I wouldn't say I got flamed but no one agreed with me. Everyone said he's a future hall of famer who got 11 sacks last year and will make us forget about Peppers.

I wasn't a big fan but I wasn't deadset against it either. Esp considering how many of his sacks he used to get against us rofl
 

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I've thought houston has looked okay

You thought wrong. Houston has been totally worthless. The only play he's made is blocking a meaningless FG against the Dolphins that had Tucker looking like he just won the lottery.
 

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You thought wrong. Houston has been totally worthless. The only play he's made is blocking a meaningless FG against the Dolphins that had Tucker looking like he just won the lottery.

I don't ascribe to the DJ_Moore_is_fat_is_a_fucking_moron theory of football acumen
 

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Those were garbage teams.

Not defending Tucker but it is the Jaguars.

More excuses and blanket observations versus actual research.

They were garbage because their coach was an idiot.

Cleveland Browns 2008 defense under Tucker: 16 sacks

Cleveland Browns 2009 defense under NOT MELTucker: 40 sacks
 

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You thought wrong. Houston has been totally worthless. The only play he's made is blocking a meaningless FG against the Dolphins that had Tucker looking like he just won the lottery.

you're wrong. houston has done what has been asked of him. he's never been a player who gets a lot of sacks. his job is to hold the point against the run and get pressures against the pass. that's what he's done.

again, amongst the league leaders in QB pressures and QB hits. which are exactly the numbers cited when the bears brought him here. houston isn't a "playmaker" he's a dirty work player who's contributions don't usually show up in the stat sheet.
 

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More excuses and blanket observations versus actual research.

They were garbage because their coach was an idiot.

Cleveland Browns 2008 defense under Tucker: 16 sacks

Cleveland Browns 2009 defense under NOT MELTucker: 40 sacks


They also had a brand new Head Coach.. with a defensive background and slightly altering the scheme and adding veteran players who played that defense before. Tucker has sucked but looking at things in a 1 track mind and place blame in one scenario/thinking it's indicative of something is idiotic.

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Alright, is there a chance either of them are gone next season?
 

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