How To Not Write Like A Schmuck 101

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Lefty said:
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I was thinking about it, and have decided to attempt to recreate the "Should teachers be compensated enough to allow them to live within the communities they teach?" dilemma in a scenario that untangles some of the elements inherent in our discussion. Bear with me, as this is just a rough draft of what I have been pondering, but I think it does an OK job at doing what is intended:

Suppose you are the GM of a newly-commissioned NFL franchise in southern California. The owner has been able to work out an agreement that allows your new team to play in the LA Memorial Coliseum while a new stadium is built elsewhere in So Cal.

Being the head of a new franchise, it is your job to make all the hirings and appointments commensurate with other NFL teams, which means you are also in charge of hiring the behind-the-action staff: athletic trainers, strength and conditioning coaches, equipment managers, team doctors and the like.

Through the course of your due diligence, you meet with an upstart doctor fresh out of med school and residency, applying for one of the team doctor positions. Football fan, solid performance as a resident and a great guy, you love him. He's from LA, and after toying with some grant money left over from med school and saving during his residency, he has already settled down in one of the LA 'burbs, a stone's throw away from the team's facilities, a perfect match. Hired. Sitting down to negotiate a contract, you give him the story of what is going to happen with the team: right outside of downtown LA for now while new stadium is built elsewhere, etc. That done, you move on to the task of putting together a winning football team.

Of course, no one really knows how valuable the services are of a team doctor or trainer. Their methods and results are indefinite, lost in the vast array of variables surrounding the sport of football as well as the randomness still present in modern medicine. Everyone knows that they do something, it's just that putting a definite number (be it in increments of dollars, points, years, whatever) is a hopeless endeavor. Ambiguous as their contributions may be, though, it is a simple truth that you must employ a doctor (or few) for the multi-million dollar collision business that is pro football.

After your first season in LA, the owner informs you that construction has begun on the team's new digs, and it should be ready for the opening of the next calendar year's season (your third in LA). There's a catch, though: Santa Monica made an offer too good to be true, and the stadium is being built there, not downtown LA. And with this new move, non-cap money is going to be tight for awhile: no big acquisitions or expenses that are unwarranted, cut-out offering extravagant signing bonuses to aging players, and so on. No big deal, right? You're in full GM Mode, the team isn't awful, and you're about to get a plush new office in a mammoth stadium in Southern California. Wonderful.

But right before your move to Santa Monica, the upstart team doc strolls into your office to negotiate a new deal. He has performed well, and while he might not be as experienced as other doctors hounding you with emails and phone calls, a Dr. Nik he is not, so you oblige him and sit down to work out a deal.

This time though, he is more assertive, asking for a pay raise right off the bat. He says he has grown accustom to living near the team's facilities near the USC campus, and doesn't want to negotiate the traffic on LA's highways every day to get to work; he has to move. His salary demands are even more outlandish than his fear of traffic, calling for a ridiculous pay increase to supplement his move from near-median-LA living to median-Santa Monica digs. Needless to say, that's a hell of a pay increase.

Now, should you be under any obligation (moral or otherwise) to give in to the doc's salary demands, just because he wants to live near the Santa Monica facilities in the same fashion afforded to him in LA?

My answer is no, you should not feel or be obligated in any way. It would be ridiculous to give in to this man's salary demands simply so that he can go on living the average life in a new place. If the stadium was in Inglewood instead of Santa Monica, you would have been labeled a penny-pinching nut-job had you been looking to cut his salary when the contract came off the books. There is a difference between "right to a necessity" and "right to an average necessity".
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Prope said:
Comparison is ridiculous because many athletic trainers also are part of their own private practices. Whether they are the owners of a clinic, or are at a clinic when the team is not practicing, athletic trainers have other sources of income.
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This is what I was thinking as well. The team doc job is more of a secondary source of income than his primary.
 

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Prope said:
Comparison is ridiculous because many athletic trainers also are part of their own private practices. Whether they are the owners of a clinic, or are at a clinic when the team is not practicing, athletic trainers have other sources of income.
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It's not a comparison, Prope. It's meant to be viewed in the context of itself only. Obviously it is not a very likely real-world scenario, but it isn't intended to be one, it is intended to untangle the principles being discussed concerning teacher value, right to fair housing, right to average housing, etc.
 

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BigP50 said:
Who is actually reading Lefty's extremely long posts?
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Better than your shit interviews you stupid mother ******. I swear to Christ you're as bad as Waldo sometimes. Go be awfully fucking Special person somewhere else you piece of shit.
 

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Prope said:
Iago,

I think Kentucky does this, and possibly they are doing it now in New Jersey, but do you favor pooling all property taxes together and paying teachers that way? Or do you favor the current system?

I'm definitely in the former on that one.
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I do not know enough of the structure in Kentucky/Jersey to evaluate. I'll try to gather some info out there on it.
 

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Lefty said:
Better than your shit interviews you stupid mother ******. I swear to Christ you're as bad as Waldo sometimes. Go be awfully fucking Special person somewhere else you piece of shit.
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i thought the one interview was good. and some of the others were decent.
 
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Lefty said:
Better than your shit interviews you stupid mother ******. I swear to Christ you're as bad as Waldo sometimes. Go be awfully fucking Special person somewhere else you piece of shit.
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Grow up you fucking moron.
 

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Lefty said:
Better than your shit interviews you stupid mother ******. I swear to Christ you're as bad as Waldo sometimes. Go be awfully fucking Special person somewhere else you piece of shit.
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another one of Lefty's attention whore posts.
 

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Obviously, when the interaction far exceeds one's proficiencies, rather than deal with one's inadequacy and/or abstain, one participates to label and slam the interaction or shareholders.

Seeing quite a few of these "ones" in here. Lame.
 
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Lefty, you go around criticizing everyone when your dumb ass isn't exactly Einstein.
 

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JoeHawks88 said:
Lefty, you go around criticizing everyone when your dumb ass isn't exactly Einstein.
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Have I ever claimed to be that, though? But to be fair, I know how to use the time dilation coefficient equation and am aware of the far-reaching implications of E=mc^2, so he and I have that in common, I guess.
 
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You & teeth are scary tough...behind a computer screen.

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