How to Proceed as "Blackhawks"

Raskolnikov

CCS Donator
Donator
Joined:
Aug 23, 2012
Posts:
22,504
Liked Posts:
7,546
Location:
Enemy Territory via southern C
Are you arguing to change the name for every street, town, park, building, or college that is also named after a historical figure? No? That's the idiocy of wokeism
No, I didn't argue the name should be changed at all. I was suggesting they ask for a formal vote from tribal leaders to legitimize the use of a Tribal Chiefs name by a sports team, hoping they said, "yes."

That's the idiocy of lazy thinking using a blanket term, "wokeness," and applying it to every change as if it were an attack on them and their past.

When you behave like that it denigrates our leadership and undermines those of us trying to maintain peace.

Reap what you sow and you will find out how foolish you are eventually.

Thanks for playing...may I have another?
 
Last edited:

dbldrew

Well-known member
Joined:
Aug 24, 2012
Posts:
6,138
Liked Posts:
2,573
No, I didn't argue the name should be changed at all. I was suggesting they ask for a formal vote from tribal leaders to legitimize the use of a Tribal Chiefs name by a sports team, hoping they said, "yes."

That's the idiocy of lazy thinking using a blanket term, "wokeness," and applying it to every change as if it were an attack on them and their past.

When you behave like that it denigrates our leadership and undermines those of us trying to maintain peace.

Reap what you sow and you will find out how foolish you are eventually.

Thanks for playing...may I have another?
Cool cool cool.. and while we are at it we should take a vote from every white European descendant to see if we can keep using Washington for every road, park, and building.. then do it again for every other historic figure?

It's not "lazy thinking" it's called common sense. The problem with woke ideology is it's inconsistent because it's 100% fake virtue signaling, it's 2 different rules,

if you actually where taking the approach that NO historic figures should be used for such things then that would be one thing, still think it's a dumb stance to take but at least you would be consistent, but your fake outrange is boring and hypocritical
 

Raskolnikov

CCS Donator
Donator
Joined:
Aug 23, 2012
Posts:
22,504
Liked Posts:
7,546
Location:
Enemy Territory via southern C
Cool cool cool.. and while we are at it we should take a vote from every white European descendant to see if we can keep using Washington for every road, park, and building.. then do it again for every other historic figure?

It's not "lazy thinking" it's called common sense. The problem with woke ideology is it's inconsistent because it's 100% fake virtue signaling, it's 2 different rules,

if you actually where taking the approach that NO historic figures should be used for such things then that would be one thing, still think it's a dumb stance to take but at least you would be consistent, but your fake outrange is boring and hypocritical

If you don't approach every unique situation with integrity and respect you undermine your ability to say no when the pendulum tilts the other way.

It's not such a big deal.

I was in a mixed neighborhood in Vegas when shit went down, and I think defund the police is a bad idea. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water and lose everything because you aren't willing to negotiate.

If you people keep carrying on like this you will go to war to fight for something you already have, and I don't think it will be worth it.

You think you are the trolls but you have taken the bait.

So a good idea I saw implemented with success in my neighborhood was looking at demographics and requiring businesses operating physically in a 40% black community to hire 40% black workers. To find the best they could, compete for them, train them, promote them, etc.

Change was necessary. Are you getting the best worker most qualified right now at every spot? No, you probably aren't, but change was clearly needed and has to start and the gap will shrink probably quickly.

I find it funny that racists are now arguing...

"I just want the best most qualified person to be hired regardless of race or creed."

All who fought in civil rights movements in the 60's...that's all they wanted. That's what they were arguing. Lol.

Be proud. Hold your head high. Keep your chest out. But please be reasonable and respect black pain and suffering. When I do that it means a lot more when I then point out white trailer parks and that 70% of the impoverished are white.

If you want somebody to listen you have to listen.

"No there is no systematic racial poverty."
"Hey everyone go woke go broke. Let's make our own sports leagues and channel all our money to white things. "
 

HeHateMe

He/Himz/Hiz
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '20
Joined:
Aug 20, 2012
Posts:
59,153
Liked Posts:
52,091
@dbldrew sorry if I came off too harsh. Let's just say if ideological prejudice is what one defines people as "normal" then much is lost in connecting with other humans.

Go B-hawks!
 

dbldrew

Well-known member
Joined:
Aug 24, 2012
Posts:
6,138
Liked Posts:
2,573
If you don't approach every unique situation with integrity and respect you undermine your ability to say no when the pendulum tilts the other way.

It's not such a big deal.

I was in a mixed neighborhood in Vegas when shit went down, and I think defund the police is a bad idea. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water and lose everything because you aren't willing to negotiate.

If you people keep carrying on like this you will go to war to fight for something you already have, and I don't think it will be worth it.

You think you are the trolls but you have taken the bait.

So a good idea I saw implemented with success in my neighborhood was looking at demographics and requiring businesses operating physically in a 40% black community to hire 40% black workers. To find the best they could, compete for them, train them, promote them, etc.

Change was necessary. Are you getting the best worker most qualified right now at every spot? No, you probably aren't, but change was clearly needed and has to start and the gap will shrink probably quickly.

I find it funny that racists are now arguing...

"I just want the best most qualified person to be hired regardless of race or creed."

All who fought in civil rights movements in the 60's...that's all they wanted. That's what they were arguing. Lol.

Be proud. Hold your head high. Keep your chest out. But please be reasonable and respect black pain and suffering. When I do that it means a lot more when I then point out white trailer parks and that 70% of the impoverished are white.

If you want somebody to listen you have to listen.

"No there is no systematic racial poverty."
"Hey everyone go woke go broke. Let's make our own sports leagues and channel all our money to white things. "

If you dont approach every unique situation with logic then you expose the hypocrisy that your ideology is based on..

You completely ignored the point about other historical figures names being used i noticed. Thats the problem with wokeism, its fake virtue signaling, its a form of narcissism, its "look at how virtuous I am" Its a way to show the world how great of a person you are without actually having to do anything other then complain. And most of the time there is no logic behind whatever the flavor of the month cause is being pushed.

There is over 1000 streets named after Martin Luther King, one in Israel and one in Brazil as well, there are restaurants, little league team, schools, even one in Venezuela.. Where is your woke outrage over that? Thats right that isnt the flavor of the month cause right now so you wont gain any "virtue signal points" so you will ignore that for now and dont care that it makes you a hypocrite.
 

ZOMBIE@CTESPN

Well-known member
Joined:
Dec 19, 2012
Posts:
19,054
Liked Posts:
17,562
Location:
MICHIGAN
I’m glad to see new stadium thread bad

Political thread good

I will remember that next time just so the 20 mods don’t have to do too much work on here deleting threads and posts
 

Raskolnikov

CCS Donator
Donator
Joined:
Aug 23, 2012
Posts:
22,504
Liked Posts:
7,546
Location:
Enemy Territory via southern C
I've been critical of most of the wokeness shit as well, as it's divisive and often racist. It's a bad strategy that has led to a backlash I predicted and warned about.

So I don't appreciate being put in that category. This issue may be peripherally related and I can see why a mobbist is reacting spastically.

I could go on about how it's a rage term that was stolen and transfigured into fear/rage syndromes by a group of illegal collusiinists, but you probably already know that.

My intent is to lay a clear strategy to keep the name, because I like it and the Hawks organization has been most respectful and honorable about their respect for their name.

It's a point of mending so keep your hate and sensationalism away.

I will lay out the best strategy to gain universal and eternal acceptance for the name.

You keep doing you and lay out the best strategies to go to war to win things you already have.
 

HeHateMe

He/Himz/Hiz
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '20
Joined:
Aug 20, 2012
Posts:
59,153
Liked Posts:
52,091
I've been critical of most of the wokeness shit as well, as it's divisive and often racist. It's a bad strategy that has led to a backlash I predicted and warned about.

So I don't appreciate being put in that category. This issue may be peripherally related and I can see why a mobbist is reacting spastically.

I could go on about how it's a rage term that was stolen and transfigured into fear/rage syndromes by a group of illegal collusiinists, but you probably already know that.

My intent is to lay a clear strategy to keep the name, because I like it and the Hawks organization has been most respectful and honorable about their respect for their name.

It's a point of mending so keep your hate and sensationalism away.

I will lay out the best strategy to gain universal and eternal acceptance for the name.

You keep doing you and lay out the best strategies to go to war to win things you already have.
Nope sorry you are in the woke bucket. There's two buckets, you're in that one. You also eat soy, don't like engines, and have limp wrists, and can only grow patchy facial hair.
 

MDB111™

O Doyle Rules
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '22
Joined:
Oct 7, 2011
Posts:
21,623
Liked Posts:
15,075
Location:
Dongbears is thee worst!
My favorite teams
  1. Chicago Cubs
  1. Chicago Bulls
  1. Chicago Bears
  1. Maryland Terrapins
Cool cool cool.. and while we are at it we should take a vote from every white European descendant to see if we can keep using Washington for every road, park, and building.. then do it again for every other historic figure?

It's not "lazy thinking" it's called common sense. The problem with woke ideology is it's inconsistent because it's 100% fake virtue signaling, it's 2 different rules,

if you actually where taking the approach that NO historic figures should be used for such things then that would be one thing, still think it's a dumb stance to take but at least you would be consistent, but your fake outrange is boring and hypocritical

Keep it up!


This mofo might be fecal five!

@Gustavus
 

dbldrew

Well-known member
Joined:
Aug 24, 2012
Posts:
6,138
Liked Posts:
2,573
I've been critical of most of the wokeness shit as well, as it's divisive and often racist. It's a bad strategy that has led to a backlash I predicted and warned about.

So I don't appreciate being put in that category. This issue may be peripherally related and I can see why a mobbist is reacting spastically.

I could go on about how it's a rage term that was stolen and transfigured into fear/rage syndromes by a group of illegal collusiinists, but you probably already know that.

My intent is to lay a clear strategy to keep the name, because I like it and the Hawks organization has been most respectful and honorable about their respect for their name.

It's a point of mending so keep your hate and sensationalism away.

I will lay out the best strategy to gain universal and eternal acceptance for the name.

You keep doing you and lay out the best strategies to go to war to win things you already have.
If you dont appreciate being called woke then don't act woke.

You don't need a strategy to keep the name, other then a very few woke idiots there is no controversy here like there was with the redskins.

Change.org has had 2 petitions, one was 8 years ago to just change the logo.. has 200 signatures and another that started 3 years ago and is still active to change the name as well.. that one is up to 300 signatures..

The Blackhawks and the logo are not disrespectful they are honoring him just like how every other historic figure is honored based on their beliefs, what they fought for, etc..

The Blackhawks have already made statements that they are not going to change and after 8 years of petitions only netting a few hundred signatures why would they?
 

Bearey Palpatine

Active member
Joined:
Sep 20, 2021
Posts:
378
Liked Posts:
278
it has happened several times, its just a more polite version of "**** off" end result is the same though.
I think less and less companies are going to cave to appease the woke mobs after the bud light debacle. They didnt cave before so I doubt they are now
If Bedard is the truth, like touted, and The Blackhawks start winning; bringing in titles, then they aren't changing the name. It will galvanize the fan base and winning brings in money...that speaks more than anything.
 

KBIB

Would like my account deleted
Joined:
Apr 26, 2013
Posts:
2,218
Liked Posts:
1,268
If Bedard is the truth, like touted, and The Blackhawks start winning; bringing in titles, then they aren't changing the name. It will galvanize the fan base and winning brings in money...that speaks more than anything.
They are not ever going to change the name or the logo.

This isn't some racist caricature on the front of the jersey. People need to move on from it.

Well, except Lazarus who used the biggest positive thing to hit the Hawks since 2015 to make it all about himself when TSN got desperate looking for a local beat writer and put him on.

The first question that idiot is going to ask Bedard after the Hawks draft him will be if he will wear the lgbtq sweater. Just watch.
 

HeHateMe

He/Himz/Hiz
Donator
CCS Hall of Fame '20
Joined:
Aug 20, 2012
Posts:
59,153
Liked Posts:
52,091
They are not ever going to change the name or the logo.

This isn't some racist caricature on the front of the jersey. People need to move on from it.

Well, except Lazarus who used the biggest positive thing to hit the Hawks since 2015 to make it all about himself when TSN got desperate looking for a local beat writer and put him on.

The first question that idiot is going to ask Bedard after the Hawks draft him will be if he will wear the lgbtq sweater. Just watch.
Gays can like hockey too bud. It's 2023.
 

Top