How would you guys feel in this hypothetical?

[2323]

Due to a scarcity in offense, a lot of teams have good defense and pitching. A lot of rotations can probably look good against many of these offensively challenged teams.

 

[SilenceS]

Lol, Strikeouts per game are at all time high. Batting average is the lowest since 1992. Runs per game are the lowest since 1992 and OBP is lowest since 1972. To say hitting isnt at a premium is not watching real time baseball.

 

[brett05]

Brett, I'm well of the paradigm of which you speak. But your reading comprehension is awful.

Please learn about the word....could...

 

[brett05]

Lol, Strikeouts per game are at all time high. Batting average is the lowest since 1992. Runs per game are the lowest since 1992 and OBP is lowest since 1972. To say hitting isnt at a premium is not watching real time baseball.

And none of that is relative

 

[SilenceS]

And none of that is relative

How is it not relative?

 

[2323]

Please learn about the word....could...

What is this in referring to?

 

[brett05]

How is it not relative?

because it does not speak to the discussion at hand which is good pitching and defense wins champioships vs a team with all offense and no pitching.

 

[brett05]

What is this in referring to?

your previous posts saying what could be a change of hitters are needed more than pitching to win championships.

 

[2323]

because it does not speak to the discussion at hand which is good pitching and defense wins champioships vs a team with all offense and no pitching.

your previous posts saying what could be a change of hitters are needed more than pitching to win championships.

Ok, so...? You're still struggling to grasp the concept, btw. But just keep parroting some truism that everyone is already familiar with.

 

[Captain Obvious]

because it does not speak to the discussion at hand which is good pitching and defense wins champioships vs a team with all offense and no pitching.

But that is just not true.

Good teams win championships. You can be a great hitting team and an average pitching team. Or you can be a great pitching team and an average hitting team. Or you can be a good hitting team and a good pitching team. There's no 1 formula for success. If there was, everyone would be doing that.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

What do you think of team speed?

 

[CSF77]

What do you think of team speed?

Depends. I place more value in OBA and smart base running. Speed in general is of lesser value. You can not steal 1B and stealing home is a risk.

Add to it unless you are stealing at a 80% clip every nab effectively lowers a players OBA value. Just like hitting into a double play.

that said, if you say that a player is well rounded and has solid base running skills which means that he can gamble rounding 3B or out leg a ground ball some times sure but that doesn't outweigh a player that gets on base or a player that can hit one into the stands on any pitch.

It held more value when there was astro turf and the players were on greenies vs being engineered nowadays as athletes.

 

[CSF77]

But that is just not true.

Good teams win championships. You can be a great hitting team and an average pitching team. Or you can be a great pitching team and an average hitting team. Or you can be a good hitting team and a good pitching team. There's no 1 formula for success. If there was, everyone would be doing that.

Most teams are very good at 1 thing and are avg at the rest. So avg run generation and D with a avg rotation but the top pen that shuts teams out after the 6th. Ya that can affect a play off series. Knowing if the game is tied after 6 the advantage goes to the team with the better pen.

There are plenty of factors involved.

 

[SilenceS]

There have been many of teams that have won a championship with not stellar pitching. To say pitching wins championship is compelled dependent on how the team is structured

 

[2323]

But that is just not true.

Good teams win championships. You can be a great hitting team and an average pitching team. Or you can be a great pitching team and an average hitting team. Or you can be a good hitting team and a good pitching team. There's no 1 formula for success. If there was, everyone would be doing that.

He's not smart enough to process a scarcity of offense could mean that good pitching + great hitting > great pitching + poor hitting (since there's an abundance of this right now).

 

[2323]

Depends. I place more value in OBA and smart base running. Speed in general is of lesser value. You can not steal 1B and stealing home is a risk.

Add to it unless you are stealing at a 80% clip every nab effectively lowers a players OBA value. Just like hitting into a double play.

that said, if you say that a player is well rounded and has solid base running skills which means that he can gamble rounding 3B or out leg a ground ball some times sure but that doesn't outweigh a player that gets on base or a player that can hit one into the stands on any pitch.

It held more value when there was astro turf and the players were on greenies vs being engineered nowadays as athletes.

Judging the ball off the bat (on defense) and base running can all be taught or learned with experience. Speed can't. But one issue is that speed isn't exactly prominent in MLb either.

 

[brett05]

Ok, so...? You're still struggling to grasp the concept, btw. But just keep parroting some truism that everyone is already familiar with.

Being the wordsmith that you are....what concept am I missing again? You've yet to state it...

 

[brett05]

But that is just not true.

Good teams win championships. You can be a great hitting team and an average pitching team. Or you can be a great pitching team and an average hitting team. Or you can be a good hitting team and a good pitching team. There's no 1 formula for success. If there was, everyone would be doing that.

All you've shown so far is that there are little to no examples of an all hit, below average pitching team winning a WS.

 

[brett05]

There have been many of teams that have won a championship with not stellar pitching. To say pitching wins championship is compelled dependent on how the team is structured

Stellar? Why do you insist on making strawmen arguments? It would be a lot easier to just agree with me this time at least.

 

[2323]

Being the wordsmith that you are....what concept am I missing again? You've yet to state it...

No, that's just it. I have. Many times.

Like I said, your reading comprehension is awful. Normally, I blame the Chicago public schools. But this is a problem specific to you.