I feel bad for Trestman, but I still want him gone

[TishLover]

don't feel bad for him at all
he got to be HC in NFL (when no way qualified for)
making 4.25mil (will make 4.25 mil for 2 more years for doing nothing, I believe)

actually he is one lucky SOB

nope don't feel bad at all

 

[RiDLer80]

He's a grown man. He'll get over it. This is a business. Either produce or GTFO.

There are a lot of nice guys in the NFL. Lovie was one too, but he had to go and so does Trestman.

 

[fatbeard]

The situation he walked into was "ideal" on paper (a QB with untapped potential in Cutler, a top 5 WR in Marshall, arguably the best pass catching RB in the league in Forte, a defense that produced takeaways consistently, a solid special teams unit, etc).

As I've mentioned plenty of times before, Emery set Trestman up for failure by alienating the veterans loyal to Urlacher, Lovie, and Marinelli. Only a coach that had the personality type to overcome the influence Lovie wielded would have been successful here. In other words, if the players didn't buy in to what he was selling, he should have rid them from the team.

On another note it sure is hilarious to see Dan Bernstein do a 180 and try and lead the "fire Trestman/Emery brigade" when he (and several people in sports media in this city) were parading the duo as "upgrades" before they even finished a full season together. He and several co-workers were "obsessed" with seeing Emery fire Lovie. The very first question Bernstein asked Emery when he was a guest on B&B (after he was hired in 2012) was "do you have the power to fire Lovie Smith?" Now they try and distance themselves from the current mess.

The circumstances around Trestman's hire were eerily similar to how Jim Zorn lucked into a job with the Redskins. In both cases, two hilariously overmatched "really nice guys" were plucked from obscurity because somebody, somewhere whispered their names to the right executive dope and then they interviewed well. Both got saddled with coordinators not of their choosing and both suffered total collapse in their second season, with a healthy assist from some incompetent GM-ing. Zorn had to accept a demotion all the way to QB coach after his debacle, and Trestman will likely have to do the same if he wants to stick around the NFL.

 

[RacerX]

LOL yeah "he" pissed it away... not the QB on the field directly responsible for all the turnovers... but the coach...lol un-fucking-real.

Derp.

Hoping you are aware that the sulkiness of the HC and the QB are not mutually exclusive. That's right, they both blow.

 

[RacerX]

The situation he walked into was "ideal" on paper (a QB with untapped potential in Cutler, a top 5 WR in Marshall, arguably the best pass catching RB in the league in Forte, a defense that produced takeaways consistently, a solid special teams unit, etc).

As I've mentioned plenty of times before, Emery set Trestman up for failure by alienating the veterans loyal to Urlacher, Lovie, and Marinelli. Only a coach that had the personality type to overcome the influence Lovie wielded would have been successful here. In other words, if the players didn't buy in to what he was selling, he should have rid them from the team.

On another note it sure is hilarious to see Dan Bernstein do a 180 and try and lead the "fire Trestman/Emery brigade" when he (and several people in sports media in this city) were parading the duo as "upgrades" before they even finished a full season together. He and several co-workers were "obsessed" with seeing Emery fire Lovie. The very first question Bernstein asked Emery when he was a guest on B&B (after he was hired in 2012) was "do you have the power to fire Lovie Smith?" Now they try and distance themselves from the current mess.


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I feel like I learn something when I listen to Marc Trestman speak. I felt like I was wasting my time when I listened to Lovie Smith speak.
https://twitter.com/NickFriedell/status/392349673056247808


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Mark Potash
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#Bears had a plus-5 or better turnover margin 3X in 150 games under Lovie Smith. They were plus-5 in Marc Trestman's third game. #Upgrade.
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Adam Hoge
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Really? RT @670TheScore: Jamie Dukes said Marc Trestman's #Bears were no different from Lovie Smith's Bears on Sunday http://cbsloc.al/14Cdw26
https://twitter.com/670TheScore/status/377456754226769920
https://twitter.com/AdamHoge/status/377460979933917184

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! That fits the bill for 98% of the posters on the here MB (i.e., the Guano-esque kool-aid brigade)

 

[Desperado34]

It probably meant the world to him to get an NFL HC gig and he'll take his firing hard. He seems like a really nice man but damn, the guy just isn't head coaching material.

I hear you man. I do. He seems like a great guy who was worked his ass off for the head coaching gig. You could tell he was so excited.

But by no means does he has business being head coach of the Chicago Bears. On The Game there was a reporter who said after Arians and trestman were hired, he interviewed and sat down with Marc and just said to himself "THIS Guy is head coach of the Chicago Bears?"

And with the new information coming out of the franchise, it seems like he wasn't far off being in shock of a guy like Marc in charge of this franchise.

It was a disturbing hire. phil need to go.

30-12

30-12

I don't hate Trestman. I feel bad for him.

But **** you Phil Emery. You smug arrogant prick.

 

[WindyCity]

Legitimately one of the nicest guys in football. The sport is full of egomaniacs and sociopaths, but he is truly someone you can respect as a person.

I know this was his dream job and that he gave it everything that he had.


That being said he was not any good at it. He is going to walk away with a broken heart and 16 million dollars. When I realized that I was never going to be an NFL player I walked away with 22,000 and 2 shoulder operations. He will be okay.

 

[shoopster]

Since Cutler was and is the problem, why didn't Coach Genuis bench him?

Same reason he hasn't benched Shea McClellin - Phil Emery won't let him.

 

[Desperado34]

LOL yeah "he" pissed it away... not the QB on the field directly responsible for all the turnovers... but the coach...lol un-fucking-real.

 

[Desperado34]

Legitimately one of the nicest guys in football. The sport is full of egomaniacs and sociopaths, but he is truly someone you can respect as a person.

I know this was his dream job and that he gave it everything that he had.


That being said he was not any good at it. He is going to walk away with a broken heart and 16 million dollars. When I realized that I was never going to be an NFL player I walked away with 22,000 and 2 shoulder operations. He will be okay.

I can imagine.

Seems like a great person. But as I've been saying for awhile now, Marcs book was cute and all; but naturally is he not that person that commands respect in the type of locker room an NFL locker room is. He just isn't. I feel bad for him, I do. But that "leadership" book was just so much garbage being spewed about the dynamics of the locker room and how all these other coaches recommended him. Simple fact is he isn't head coaching material.

There is a reason so many have passed on him over the years. He just isn't that good. He can spew his leadership stuff all day and night. But when shit hits the fan he will go back to what he always has been; a introverted person who is better and more NATURAL with the x's and o's than being a leader of men.

I lost it when he used to talk about the beauty of football, the great game that brings men of different backgrounds together for a common cause, the no captions bs, the offense and defensive guys sitting next to eachother. It was all such bullshit that I know he believed; but he really needed to step back and think what NFL players are. So so so so far from his new age zen crap.

I mean cmon, Marc. You're spewing this garbage about the beauty of football and all this crap while half these guys are getting pain injections at halftime to play through the game. Or blowing off a concussion with smelling salts. You know damn well as I do it's a violent game and it isn't pretty. It's not built for everyone. But I think Marc lost NFL players with his talk and allowance of these guys to do what they want because they want to grow the man football.

It wasn't a smart move.

I know guys in the league as well I'm sure you do. The best comparison to the NFL I've read/heard is the ESPN show Playmakers which, apparently, was too damn real to life where the cancelled it after one season. Even though the ratings were very high. Rumors were the NFL wanted it pulled and threatened ESPN over some NFL games.

It's a mean and dirty game. Watching that show makes you realize a guy like Trestman just will NOT resonate with NFL players.

Simple as that.

 

[1COBearsfan]

It probably meant the world to him to get an NFL HC gig and he'll take his firing hard. He seems like a really nice man but damn, the guy just isn't head coaching material.

This. Once he is away from the team I'm going to wish him the best of luck and all the success in the world. I just don't want him coaching the team

 

[Forever500]

That's Jay's fault too because he checked out of the good run plays but didn't check out of the bad run plays.

Trestman = Dope.

Why doesn't this fukn loser post on his own forum

 

[#FireEveryoneGeorge]

The circumstances around Trestman's hire were eerily similar to how Jim Zorn lucked into a job with the Redskins. In both cases, two hilariously overmatched "really nice guys" were plucked from obscurity because somebody, somewhere whispered their names to the right executive dope and then they interviewed well. Both got saddled with coordinators not of their choosing and both suffered total collapse in their second season, with a healthy assist from some incompetent GM-ing. Zorn had to accept a demotion all the way to QB coach after his debacle, and Trestman will likely have to do the same if he wants to stick around the NFL.

Great memory that sound very similar. Let's hope George can right the ship.

 

[doctorbear]

Why doesn't this fukn loser post on his own forum

Surprisingly, he has a lot more intelligent posts than some of the high post count people here.

 

[FireFox]

you know you can think jay cutler sucks and still realize that trestman is a terrible head coach? it's not one or the other.

also...trestman must have signed off on re-signing cutler-there's no way emery re-signed cutler without trestman okaying it-so what does that say about his ability to evaluate his players? and nobody made trestman call such out of whack games. almost 200 more passes then runs. no attempt at balance whatsoever. he didn't have to run a pass heavy offense.

trestman is a failure on every level. emery is an bigger failure, and they both need to go, along with cutler.

Don't mind Broc he is just a troll around here. In fact whenever he starts a sentence with LOL, you know he is trolling.

 

[r1terrell23]

Trestman is responsible for the Cutler mess as well. He is the coach, okayed the extension, and he is the qb whisperer.

 

[sam slocum]

I feel bad for me. I've been a fan of this team for 50 fucking years and this has been (not counting the additional drama and horrible defense) mostly typical of the results I should expect.

 

[85Bears]

When I realized that I was never going to be an NFL player I walked away with 22,000 and 2 shoulder operations. He will be okay.

Hey Windy, was you not being an NFL player due in part to your shoulder operations? I'm just curious.

 

[supraman]

Since Cutler was and is the problem, why didn't Coach Genuis bench him?

I'm certainly no football expert but there seems to be a trend in the NFL that you never bench your starter unless he is super duper shitty or the game is in the bag. Being a hockey guy I dont get it, you bench tell him it just aint his week and try again next week. Grossman was great for this, he was either OMFG awesome or OMFG a high school QB could out play him. Cutler has just become Grossman 2.0.

 

[MrOuija]

As far as I see it Trestman made two major mistakes. Not insisting on a new DC after his first year, and signing off on the Cutler contract. He could have really used a competent DC that could gain the respect of the D and the Lovie loyalists, instead he allowed the Bears to stick him with Mel Tucker to give him "one more shot" as the Bears often do with coaches that fail.

Secondly, not franchising or releasing Cutler and shipping out McCown was inexcusable. The Bears had a good situation at QB at the end of last year, a guy with demonstrated production in Trestman's offense, and a guy with potential to do better. They had a tough decision to make, so they do what they always do when the going gets tough, they punted. Instead of keeping Cutler and McCown in the same locker room in what was quickly shaping up to be a competition they tried instead to make Cutler happy with a fat deal and no alternatives.

So is Trestman's offense more akin to what we saw his first year, or what it was relegated to in his second? Unfortunately we'll probably never know.