I want to kick the shit out of every single one of these kids...

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Yeah. Those kids are horrible. Middle school is when kids are the biggest assholes.

Which is precisely why I think it is hilarious that so many people are "outraged!!!!!". Give me a fucking break. 12 year old boys are most often assholes or dipshits that have a LOT of learning left to do.



Tell us something we didn't know.
 

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I'm a little surprised that everyone is immediately jumping to abusive punishments and so easily throwing around words like, "beat," "hitting," and "rape." It's just as vulgar and offensive to wish for the mutilation and abuse of these children, who are at a stage right now where they're assholes, but in time they'll most likely regret their actions. Their desire to be liked by their peers, to feel as though they belong is fuelling their actions more that malicious intent. Children are at a stage where they're looking for more independence and their parents are less aware of their new behaviour that they bust out in front of their new friends. The things coming out of their mouths are horrible, but unlike us, they're not fully formed adults and still have a lot of learning to do. Some of them probably haven't even gone through puberty yet!



How many of us have done something horrible as a young person and regretted it? Do you think their sense of empathy is fully formed yet? Probably not. As adults they will feel sick about this. Regret is a powerful thing.



Again, I agree that this is a monstrous scene, but violence begets violence, etc. That's like saying, "I hope they enjoy their beatings and the PTSD that goes along with it."



Anyway, the should be punished and made to understand the gravity of their actions, but not with fists or cattle prods or whips or forceable sex because that also makes me want to barf.

Quoted for truth. You are the wisest person in this thread thus far. Kudos for your assessment.
 

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Karma............ would love to revisit this group of kids in 10-20 years and see where they are at.





The scary part of that video for me is wondering if they can be that mean to a grown adult, what do you think these punks are like to other kids?

Probably CEOs of a company or running one of the most successful Vulture Capitalist firms in America. Doth we forget about Mitt's bullying episodes in prep school????



Aggressive boys usually become alpha males. Some obnoxious, some controlled, both groups are still assholes.
 

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Probably CEOs of a company or running one of the most successful Vulture Capitalist firms in America. Doth we forget about Mitt's bullying episodes in prep school????



Aggressive boys usually become alpha males. Some obnoxious, some controlled, both groups are still assholes.



Yes because the children of those guys go to public school and ride the bus. I'm guessing that was meant to be sarcasm.
 

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Well Pete is taking up IHF's mantle of politicizing the threads.
 

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Karma............ would love to revisit this group of kids in 10-20 years and see where they are at.





The scary part of that video for me is wondering if they can be that mean to a grown adult, what do you think these punks are like to other kids?

Police officers, politicians, stock clerks at your local grocery store, mechanics, maybe found in an alley knifed in the gut.

We have no idea what these kids will turn into. A guy I knew in high school was a huge bully, became a cop, and got busted in a federal investigation. Another turd in high school came around and became a pretty nice guy. It's an individual issue that every person goes through. All the parenting in the world isn't going to pull the asshole attitude out of certain individuals.



As far as disciplining kids for harsh actions is concerned, sometimes kids need a check. The ones on the bus need a lesson in losing, and huge dose on respecting individuals. However, it's a group/pack mentality. None of those kids would individually walk up to some one and call them any one of these insults.



http://www.indiegogo.com/loveforkarenhklein?c=pledges



Here is the link to the indiegogo campaign that's barely over a day old.

The person who started this wanted to raise $5000 to give the lady a nice vacation.

There's almost 500,000 raised. That's a huge show of support from people around the country. There are many stories out there that make us shake our heads on how people treat each other, this one may have a happy ending.
 

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She's now received 400k and growing in donations. I'd gladly take that abuse for a 1/2 hour drive if I were going to get that kind of money.
 

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I'm not saying that any of you are bad people, and not that I know you well, but I happen to like you all, but look at how incensed we become when we watch this kind of terrible behaviour. Just like those asshole kids we allow our emotions to feed on each other. Just like those little ******* we too need to think about the words that come out of our mouths. That's all I'm saying.



I obviously am never going to agree with you on hitting children to correct behaviour. Everyone has different life experience and different things that worked and didn't work for their parents. I was an asshole, but no one ever hit me. Does that make me not a fully formed human who doesn't understand right from wrong? Do we think Jako or Supra are better people for being hit by their parents? These are just questions and ideas that I think are worth exploring. Obviously it's not black and white.



Anyway, since I'm never having kids I guess I never have to deal with this.
 

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My parents hit me. My sisters hit me. Random people hit me. It didn't stop my behavior.



Then one day I got bigger then all of them. The hitting stopped.
 

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I'm not saying that any of you are bad people, and not that I know you well, but I happen to like you all, but look at how incensed we become when we watch this kind of terrible behaviour. Just like those asshole kids we allow our emotions to feed on each other. Just like those little ******* we too need to think about the words that come out of our mouths. That's all I'm saying.



I obviously am never going to agree with you on hitting children to correct behaviour. Everyone has different life experience and different things that worked and didn't work for their parents. I was an asshole, but no one ever hit me. Does that make me not a fully formed human who doesn't understand right from wrong? Do we think Jako or Supra are better people for being hit by their parents? These are just questions and ideas that I think are worth exploring. Obviously it's not black and white.



Anyway, since I'm never having kids I guess I never have to deal with this.



I got about 3 good beatings in my life by my dad and I remember whatever I did I never did again. My dad rarely hit me. I'm not saying it will work for everyone. And do it constantly solves nothing but I think my dad had a good handle on it by the time I came around. If he cracked me I knew he meant business. Most of the time it was go to your room, stand in the corner, or the "I'm disappointed in you". But I was a good kid to begin with but I was taught right and wrong really early on. I guess maybe that is the secret, teaching a kid right and wrong. I
 

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I think the lady will get compensated...



Her fund raising has hit over 500k...



(A toronto guy felt bad and started a site to donate money to get her a vacation. His goal was 5k. Yesterday it hit over 200k, 500k atm.)



So...who wants to get a bunch of kids to whoop the shit outta me?!
 

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I think the lady will get compensated...



Her fund raising has hit over 500k...



(A toronto guy felt bad and started a site to donate money to get her a vacation. His goal was 5k. Yesterday it hit over 200k, 500k atm.)



So...who wants to get a bunch of kids to whoop the shit outta me?!



pfft you hit yourself in the balls with a ballpeen hammer all the time. What can kids do to you.
 

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Well Pete is taking up IHF's mantle of politicizing the threads.



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I will have to to take your word on that since I do not observe those comments.
 

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We all know you read them anyway. hahaahahaha



Even if I did, not worthy of wasting minutes of my lifetime that I will never get back by responding.



Now, you, on the other hand......................... that is a different story.



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