If the Bears are targeting a QB -

[PeterMbangala]

There is like and I am going to move up because there is one QB that is above and beyond better than the rest like.

Like and you wait until #3 and hope the better QB in your opinion is there. You have a chance of keeping your job even if he fails.

Moving up for a QB in a perceived weak class has a chance of getting you fired before the team gets to week 1 because of the perceived reach when no QB should have been taken until later.

I don't think he'll move up and I 100% would not either. But I 100% think that Pace likes one of the QBs more.

 

[Chicoman]

This was from another thread, but since I reference Polar Bear's thread I though I'd throw in here.

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Chicago #Bears have big interest in Deshaun Watson and have privately met with him. ( Via @AaronLemingNFL)


My only issue with this is that we are two weeks out and this gives others time to trade in front of us, and those teams in front of us more time to reevaluate him.

I agree with PolarBear or at least the premise of the thread he started. If Pace & Co. believe and want this kid then they better not puss out like they did with Mariota and Wentz. Get him..that is if Browns or 49ers don't want him (nothing he can do at that point).

 

[ginny]

No, I don't.

Mickey - best accuracy, progresses from receiver to receiver while looking for the open man, one year wonder (Pace likes taking players with more experience, not just QBs with more experience), many of his victories came against lesser talent, doesn't seem to have had an official visit (smoke screen?), pocket presence good, played with talented offense, good but not great leadership, shotgun qb

Watson - the IT factor, poor accuracy (scouts say that accuracy does not improve from college to the pros. It makes sense since the defenses are more complex, the defenders are all better, and the windows become smaller), winner in the biggest stages, prone to eye his first receiver and pass to him, played with talented offense, great leadership, made the whole program better in college, lots of picks in all his seasons, shotgun qb, slight frame can be injury concern in the future, he makes poor decisions (mostly because he does not look at multiple receivers)

Kizer - prototypical size, much better seasons before than his last year while having much better offensive talent in those early years, terror for the defense with his legs because of his speed size combo, had some experience under center, underwhelmed in accuracy, leadership and results, not a winner seeing that he was awful with games on the line, he is a "nice guy" but in reality all of his interactions with the public may have been a QB well trained in what to say, multiple visits with the Bears

I, and most people, do not see these QBs with their above flaws (and there are more flaws) as worthy of being top 10 draft picks let alone being drafted at #3. Desperate teams are going to make desperate decisions and all of them will be drafted way before they should have.

Let's take Watson as an example since there is a huge following for him. Let's say that the Bears draft Watson at ... who cares where ... just that he is now a Bear.

He is going to be working on accuracy, decision making, working under center, complex defenses, complex offenses while getting third string reps (meaning none) and with inferior talent on offense compared to what he had (no more jump ball receiver nor best TE in the country).

Really. How is he going to get better? Yes, he can learn offenses and defenses in the QB room, but with limited reps for players due to limited time and contact, he is going to struggle. As a third string QB, he is going to get zero training from coaches because they will be busy trying to put a respectable product on the field during the season. There isn't even a minor league for him to get some live game experience.

This was a good read, and only have one issue with it....in bold.
I would find it hard to believe a franchise would draft a QB at 3 that would be considered their future franchise QB, then let him co-exist with "zero training".

Was still a good read though. ?

 

[Chicoman]

http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/looks-bears-want-quarterback-draft-will-they-trade-make-sure-they-get-their-guy-deshaun-watson


LOOKS LIKE BEARS WANT QUARTERBACK IN DRAFT, BUT WILL THEY TRADE UP TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THEIR GUY?

By John Mullin April 15, 2017 5:00 PM

All draft analyses are fluid, including the ones of NFL teams right up to the minute they are on the clock. But inside of two weeks until the 2017 selection derby, the conclusion here has become that the Bears will use their first pick — be it the No. 3 overall choice or another should they trade up — on a quarterback.


Earlier thought was that the Bears might be looking at a safety — LSU's Jamal Adams or Ohio State's Malik Hooker — but the Bears have conducted some of the most exhaustive research and evaluations in recent memory not of one quarterback but multiple quarterback prospects, in particular Notre Dame's DeShone Kizer, Texas Tech's Pat Mahomes and Clemson's Deshaun Watson. ....click link

 

[MrOuija]

http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/looks-bears-want-quarterback-draft-will-they-trade-make-sure-they-get-their-guy-deshaun-watson


LOOKS LIKE BEARS WANT QUARTERBACK IN DRAFT, BUT WILL THEY TRADE UP TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THEIR GUY?

By John Mullin April 15, 2017 5:00 PM

All draft analyses are fluid, including the ones of NFL teams right up to the minute they are on the clock. But inside of two weeks until the 2017 selection derby, the conclusion here has become that the Bears will use their first pick — be it the No. 3 overall choice or another should they trade up — on a quarterback.


Earlier thought was that the Bears might be looking at a safety — LSU's Jamal Adams or Ohio State's Malik Hooker — but the Bears have conducted some of the most exhaustive research and evaluations in recent memory not of one quarterback but multiple quarterback prospects, in particular Notre Dame's DeShone Kizer, Texas Tech's Pat Mahomes and Clemson's Deshaun Watson. ....click link

So dumb..

 

[WindyCity]

Good lord. Of Course Watson will get attention. He probably will have his own coach in his his hip pocket.

Sanchez will get no reps, no back up QB does.


Let's not rule out that Watson goes all Russell Wilson on this and gets all the reps.

 

[The Hawk]

Good lord. Of Course Watson will get attention. He probably will have his own coach in his his hip pocket.

Sanchez will get no reps, no back up QB does.


Let's not rule out that Watson goes all Russell Wilson on this and gets all the reps.

That is a possibility. I still have to scratch my head about why they signed Glennon because he is the definition of a immobile pocket quarterback while Watson is the complete opposite. Maybe I am making too much out of it but it would seem to me that the play calls with Glennon in there would be much different than if Watson was over center. It might make more sense if they drafted Trubisky instead of Watson or Kizer.

 

[MrOuija]

That is a possibility. I still have to scratch my head about why they signed Glennon because he is the definition of a immobile pocket quarterback while Watson is the complete opposite. Maybe I am making too much out of it but it would seem to me that the play calls with Glennon in there would be much different than if Watson was over center. It might make more sense if they drafted Trubisky instead of Watson or Kizer.

Trubisky is nearly as athletic as Watson though. If you're looking for some big guy with cement shoes on like Glennon i'm not sure who that would be in this draft.

 

[Hammer]

"Shoes" do not win you games at QB position, "arms" do, remember that.

 

[The Hawk]

"Shoes" do not win you games at QB position, "arms" do, remember that.

Both are preferable. The ability to avoid the pass rush works very well for a few fellows in Green Bay, Seattle, KC, Tennessee, etc. The ability of extending plays and being able to throw while on the run results in big gains and tiring out a defense as well. And to have a statue like Glennon in the pocket, you had better have some monster OTs in front of him which sadly the Bears do not have.

 

[Bearly]

So dumb..

The only thing that told me is that Bear have done their due diligence and haven't ignored or assumed something about the QBs.

 

[PolarBear]

This is awesome...

 

[Chinese]

They need to be aggressive and look to get up and get that #2 pick.

Don't sit on your hands and hope your guy is there at #3, there will be teams lurking trying to trade up in front of the Bears to possibly nab that guy at #2.

I would do what the Rams and Eagles did last year and make my move early if I can and secure that #2 spot where I can pretty be assured that I will have my choice at the QB's.

I would trade a future 3rd round pick to move up and make sure I got Trubisky (my guy)...Pace should do so if he likes him or Watson.

Wtf...impressive

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[ditka4life]

I knew Pace would choose Trubisky because he was being so quiet about the whole draft process.
Knew Pace was waiting to see if the 49ers would take Mitch.
I wonder when Pace started calling Lynch to discuss the trade - don't want to tip the hand too much and
have Lynch gossiping for better deals.

 

[Aesopian]

PolarBear called it

 

[Madden]

Damn dude spot on

 

[Icculus]

This is awesome...

You called it, mang

 

[Shepard]

They need to be aggressive and look to get up and get that #2 pick.

Don't sit on your hands and hope your guy is there at #3, there will be teams lurking trying to trade up in front of the Bears to possibly nab that guy at #2.

I would do what the Rams and Eagles did last year and make my move early if I can and secure that #2 spot where I can pretty be assured that I will have my choice at the QB's.

I would trade a future 3rd round pick to move up and make sure I got Trubisky (my guy)...Pace should do so if he likes him or Watson.

Bump

 

[Shepard]

This is awesome...

Talk about being right....damn.

You completely called another team jumping the Bears at 3 to get to 2 as well....its impossible to know, but I'd expect Lynch to discuss that the Bears weren't the only team in town for that #2 pick. If I had to guess I'd guess the Bills and Browns were the other clubs in on moving up to #2 to land Trubisky.

Pace loved Trubisky enough to make damn sure he got his guy....which really pumps me up about Mitchell.

 

[LiverpoolBearsFAn]

PolarBear = Ryan Pace...

Nice call mate, you must have been jumping when that one happened last night!

I'm excited - hard for anyone to know whether it'll work out or not, but at least the Bears actually did something interesting.

If he turns into a franchise QB then the price is cheap.