If you could have one TV show back...

[number51]

That's not very nice.

He didn't see it, I'm on ignore. Even with your quote he has no idea who I'm talking about. It would have been mean if he knew I was calling him a fucking idiot, but he is blissfully unaware, so no harm, no foul.

 

[brett05]

I'll go with the most recent cut:

Last Man Standing

 

[Axl Rose]

Have been watching Masters Of Horror. Watched this every weekend with my pops.

Netflix should look at doing a horror anthology.

 

[Warden of the Northeast]

He didn't see it, I'm on ignore. Even with your quote he has no idea who I'm talking about. It would have been mean if he knew I was calling him a fucking idiot, but he is blissfully unaware, so no harm, no foul.

Oh lol...sorry then.

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

Married with Children


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[Ares]

Or they could have just stuck with the fact they were ruthless villains who changed because their memories were wiped and they had to start over. That was the more interesting story. How we are the sum total of our memories and experiences as evidenced by these ruthless villains learning to work together because they had to and in doing so becoming better versions of themselves.

There was so much story potential of these guys meeting people from their past who had every reason to hate them or want them dead but then having to cope with the fact that these people were no longer the villains they remembered. Instead every encounter with their past seemed to soften the characters and reveal some tragedy that made the whole idea they were ruthless villains seem unwarranted. Mainly because they kept running into people worse than themselves.

If they had gone that route then when they introduced the parallel versions of themselves you would accept how evil those alt characters appeared because you would have stories supporting all the bad things they did. Instead there is a disconnect because you are suppose to believe these alt versions are evil but those alt versions largely still have the same tragic backstory where they are generally victims of more evil people or the evil system. The writers betrayed their own narrative.

Very good points.... that would have also been a fun direction and embraced the ruthless villain reputation.

But the writers seemed obligated to paint them as good guys because they were the protagonists...

I'll say I felt they revealed too many things too early... Two and the nanites... Six being a Cop... One being an imposter... I think they should have drawn some of that out more.... hinted at it.

The android character was well done.

 

[Burque]

I have been seeing a pattern in TV shows that has gotten worse and worse the last 10-15 years.

It goes:

1. Start with an interesting premise
2. Draw in viewers
3. Be surprised people like your show so much
4. Panic because now you need to write more seasons and you only have a vague notion of what happens next.
5. Abandon any pacing in your storytelling and start shoveling juicy plot into the viewer's mouth
6. Run out of runway and get cancelled.

But this is a natural response to network impatience where it goes:

1. Start with an interesting premise
2. Have a long term plan for overall narrative and character development
3. Begin telling the story at a pace that unravels the main story slowly
4. Get cancelled because most viewers have ADHD and already changed the channel.

You've been watching the walking dead for too long.

 

[number51]

He didn't see it, I'm on ignore. Even with your quote he has no idea who I'm talking about. It would have been mean if he knew I was calling him a fucking idiot, but he is blissfully unaware, so no harm, no foul.

Oh lol...sorry then.

Well with that quote, he knows now. I really don't think he cares what I think of him.

But come on:

Is Mad TV still around?

A five year old knows how to use google.

 

[remydat]

Very good points.... that would have also been a fun direction and embraced the ruthless villain reputation.

But the writers seemed obligated to paint them as good guys because they were the protagonists...

I'll say I felt they revealed too many things too early... Two and the nanites... Six being a Cop... One being an imposter... I think they should have drawn some of that out more.... hinted at it.

The android character was well done.

Yeah One being an imposter should have lasted longer and I think them blowing that reveal too soon led to the others being revealed too soon. A TV series needs to have a certain pace and networks and writers want to shock the viewer as a season progresses at certain intervals to keep them invested. The fact is they already had an initial premise that probably could have carried the show for the first half of the season. If they had done that then the One reveal comes at around midseason and then you can do One getting killed and replaced by the real One at the end of the first season and do the 6 reveal and the cliffhanger.

I would then have put all the Two and nannites stuff in the second season.

 

[Dogstar]

Jericho and Warehouse 13 both died those weird show deaths where they were to be cancelled, but then the network allowed 1 more short season to "finish it".

I am not a fan of that tactic.... either renew the show for another actual season or leave it cancelled.

I also loved Eureka.... the ending felt forced... like most Syfy show endings.

Yeah, I stopped watching SyFy cold turkey when they killed Warehouse 13. Got tired of that routine and all of the garbage movies, wrestling and ghost hunters shit.

 

[Ares]

You've been watching the walking dead for too long.

While that is true.... TWD is adapted/paced off comics.... and they certainly don't zoom thru the juicy content.

 

[Burque]

While that is true.... TWD is adapted/paced off comics.... and they certainly don't zoom thru the juicy content.

They just try to stuff more shit in there than they need to to keep people interested.

To much: what does this mean?!

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[Warden of the Northeast]

TWD is on its last leg, rating for the last couple seasons have been pretty anemic.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

TWD is on its last leg, rating for the last couple seasons have been pretty anemic.

That's because nothing happens, ever. The season that's going on right now has been okay, but it's still really slow.

 

[Adipost]

King of the Hill.

I know Brittany Murphy died, but honestly Luann was probably my least favorite character.

Lucky is gone as well.

Boomhauer is a good choice for the favorite character thread.

Dale Gribble is a legend

 

[number51]

TWD is on its last leg, rating for the last couple seasons have been pretty anemic.

I posted a bunch of articles in the TWD thread to disprove this, I'm just to lazy to look it up. It boils down to this.

TV ratings are down, across the board, broadcast networks (the big 4), basic cable, sports, news, drama, reality, everything. The NFL ratings are down from previous seasons, but down much less than the rest of TV. Same with TWD, ratings are down but it is still the #1 show on television, because the ratings for everything else are down more.

TV executives don't cancel the #1 show, if it drops to #50 and becomes too expensive, then, yes. Right now the show is a license to print money even though it has become trendy to hate it, people are still watching, then bitching, but still watching.

 

[ShiftyDevil]

Some good stuff in the thread. I'd add Firefly and Jericho. Watched Jericho on one of the streaming services (not sure if netflix or hulu) and really liked it, didn't realize that the series was going to end on a pretty big cliffhanger though, which sucked.

 

[ytsejam]

 

[Ares]

Some good stuff in the thread. I'd add Firefly and Jericho. Watched Jericho on one of the streaming services (not sure if netflix or hulu) and really liked it, didn't realize that the series was going to end on a pretty big cliffhanger though, which sucked.

So I have to add something that happened with Jericho that annoys me.

They did "continue" the series as a comic series.

I suppose it could be made into a continuation of the TV show one day, but in general I think continuing a TV series as a comic series is dumb.

Jericho was a very interesting concept.... I would like if they rebooted it one day.

 

[number51]

This was never a TV show, just a movie sequel, but it was a lot of fun. Now they are talking about making it into a TV series on CMT.