IGT: 12/03 Chicago Bulls @ Boston Celtics 7PM CST on ESPN

Who wins?

  • Chicago Bulls

    Votes: 4 44.4%
  • Boston Celtics

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • The Elbows

    Votes: 2 22.2%

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Just a bad game again by us..

We aren't ready to compete in the East.
 

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Just a bad game again by us..

We aren't ready to compete in the East.

not until...
- boozer gets his shit straight so he can be effective while starting 12 points 2 steals in 21 is alright for taj but hes not gettin 80 mil his +/- -21 taj +/- +11

- we get our 2 guard situation straight cuz bogans isnt cutting it at all he constantly puts out straight crap he had 0 points in 12:33 shot a single shot(3-pointer) & had a turnover his +/- was -13 :bigfinger: that ones for you keith

- bench outplayed thiers 31-28 but the starters 61-76
 
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Oh well. It looks like we need to be bad, before we can be good. Boozer looked a little better, Noah is out of place when Boozer is on the floor, and that screws his momentum up a ton. Brewer needs to start, and JJ needs to see action, even if its just 4-5 minutes per game.
 

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I don't think you can really pin this on Bogans, after a strong start Brewer did nothing either, and Korver couldn't really hit shots either. Got nothing from anyone we put at SG.

Rose got outplayed, and the Bulls aren't going to win many games when that happens.
 

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I don't think you can really pin this on Bogans, after a strong start Brewer did nothing either, and Korver couldn't really hit shots either. Got nothing from anyone we put at SG.

Rose got outplayed, and the Bulls aren't going to win many games when that happens.

There are a lot of contributing factors, but Bogans is the main one. If he can't wear down his opponent for the few minutes that he's out there, he's not even playing his role. Basically he's the loophole that allows other teams to grab momentum early. Momentum is a huge problem with this team. At least Brewer collects himself after he makes a mistake. Bogans will repeat the mistake over and over again.
 

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There are a lot of contributing factors, but Bogans is the main one. If he can't wear down his opponent for the few minutes that he's out there, he's not even playing his role. Basically he's the loophole that allows other teams to grab momentum early. Momentum is a huge problem with this team. At least Brewer collects himself after he makes a mistake. Bogans will repeat the mistake over and over again.

he basically gives whoever is guarding him a on-floor break he can play off & not worry about him without coach caring & let him shoot if he hits ok thats his only one for the game now i can really rest
 

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Bogans is not the main reason the Bulls are on a two game losing streak, he only played 13 minutes...
 

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Bogans is not the main reason the Bulls are on a two game losing streak, he only played 13 minutes...

Agreed, I think everyone wants Bogans to go take a seat next to Scal & Thomas, but even if he did that the Bulls still would have lost both games.
 

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13 minutes, 1 rebound. 0-0-0-0-0 and 1 turnover. JJ could do more in 13 minutes. Scals could do more in 13 minutes, Kurt Thomas could do more in 13 minutes. Watson at the 2 could do more in 13 minutes. Pargo could do more in 13 minutes.
The SGs that are getting paid 2x as much as Bogans, could definitely do more in 13 minutes.

If you bench Brewer in the preseason because of his health and play, you do the same for Bogans. Bottom line.
 

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I'm Brewer's biggest supporter, loved the signing, think we're not using him nearly well enough, and have wanted him to start since day 1. But there's a difference between "Bogans should be benched" and "Bogans was the key to the loss".
 

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Bogans was the main reason. Even if there are 20 different excuses for losing, Bogans is #1 on that list.
 

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If Bogans is the number 1 source of the Bulls problem...this must be a championship team, must be the best damn team in the league...lol.

But the Bulls are not the best team in the league, and Bogans is not the main problem. I hope you mean shooting guard is the main problem, which is still inaccurate, but sounds a bit better.
 

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If Bogans is the number 1 source of the Bulls problem...this must be a championship team, must be the best damn team in the league.

Why do you think this is a championship team? Because a team has a problem, that means they are a championship team?
 

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Why do you think this is a championship team? Because a team has a problem, that means they are a championship team?

No, if the Bulls only reason for getting their asses kicked by a top team in the league is a player who plays 13 minutes in the game...that is easily remedied. Your thinking doesn't compute well because the Bulls took the same team to overtime with Bogans playing 10 more minutes. Can you explain that?

Bogans is not the top reason the Bulls lost tonight, not even close. That 13 minutes of futility is only a fraction of the bad game the team had.
 

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we still need a SG obviously that is no secret, it would be nice if we actually had a SHOOTER IN THE STARTING LINEUP to spread the floor for Rose and Boozer

Bogans is so useless, I guess he i still in the starting lineup for defensive purposes because he really doesn't do anything offensively, we play 4 vs 5 on offensive when he is on the floor

not worried about Boozer, he will continue to get better and more comfortable but that SG position is a JOKE right now and I am disappointed with Korver so far, I was not aware that he was just a Spot Up shooter and can't create on his own

but Boston and Orlando, those teams are just BETTER then the Bulls RIGHT NOW!
 
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I was not aware that he was just a Spot Up shooter and can't create on his own

If Korver could create his own shot he's be a 10+ million dollar a year player. Hard to be disappointed in him, he hits open shots at a high rate and that's all you get for MLE or less type money.
 

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No, if the Bulls only reason for getting their asses kicked by a top team in the league is a player who plays 13 minutes in the game...that is easily remedied. Your thinking doesn't compute well because the Bulls took the same team to overtime with Bogans playing 10 more minutes. Can you explain that?

I never said only reason. You must have some kind of comprehension disability.
 

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We are not ready to compete with the best in the East yet..
 
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