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Crazy day n game in Chicago...way to go Bears!
IGT Week 11: Chicago Bears (5-4) vs Baltimore Ravens (4-5) 12:00 PM CDT CBS
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Agreed. I love Cutler but McCown played an awesome game today. He's very smart with the football and is quite mobile in the pocket.
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It wasn't pretry bit a win is a fucking win. Better to be the Bears today than the Ravens.
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LOL so when Cutler does nothing for large chunks of the game and then leads game winning drives, it's "Hero Clutchler pay the man" but when McCown does it in the wind on a swamp, he "mostly sucked". Got it.
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And whats cutler do. He normally has 2-4 great drives then goes 3 and out the rest. You don't have to hate on one to defend the other
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So, for anyone saying Mccown was better than Cutler, do you regret that idiotic statement yet? without the delay, we would have lost 100 to 0 because he was petrified in that rain. And then he was decent at best the rest of the game. Did enough to win, but wasn't impressive to say the least.
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Only thing I can remember with Josh today was the 6 downs goal to go and no TD. Not all on him, but the pass to Marshall that hit the DB in the helmet was just awful. Otherwise after a shaky start ( ill give that to weather ) I thought he played well. Oh and I'm a Cutler fan, but a Bears fan first, so whoever puts up a W.
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Yes, put to bed Josh starting, but I'll take him as my back up QB anyday and twice on sundays.
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Not hating I just know McCown. And I don't trust him just yet.
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I'll tell you what type of game McCown had today. He had the exact kind of game that sends the Cutler fanboys into an ejaculation frenzy when he does it. ~250 yards with one TD and large chunks of the game where the offense didn't get anything going, followed by a winning drive. Except McCown never turned it over and did it in 40mph gusts on a swamp.
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I'm a self-admitted Cutler fanboy, but 250 yards and 1 TD is not impressive, no matter who is doing it. It takes 300+ 3 TDs 1 or less int to send me into ejaculation frenzy. And McCown was HORRIBLE in the early weather. Scared out of his mind. Cutler is a man in bad weather.
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Jaws: Cutler Not Worth Long Term Deal
In the National Football League, we've seen plenty of turmoil at the quarterback position this season. Already, 46 different QBs have started games; that's just one shy of last year's total, and we've got seven weeks to go. But one of the most significant situations, in my mind, is the injury to Jay Cutler in Chicago. Not so much because of the ramifications for the Bears' playoff chances, but because of the potential impact on Cutler's future with the team.
Cutler's contract expires at the end of the season, meaning this year has been something of a "show me" season for the quarterback in order to earn a contract on par with the NFL's other franchise passers. Often, those deals come in around the $100 million range. Yes, the Bears have the option of giving Cutler the franchise tag, which means a one-year deal. Based on what I've seen from Cutler this season, I simply don't think he's earned a longer deal, and I would not sign him to a big contract this offseason.
That doesn't mean the Bears won't sign him.
Nor does it make Cutler a "bad" quarterback. But what it does mean is that I've seen enough warning signs from Cutler's play that it would scare me away from a long-term, big-money investment.
Let's break it down.
The virtues
In terms of pure arm talent, there may not be a better quarterback in the NFL than Cutler.
Take that first-quarter touchdown pass to Brandon Marshall against the Detroit Lions on Sunday. That was as pretty a throw as you'll see. I'd say there are only a handful of quarterbacks who can make that throw. If you read my column regularly, you'll know I believe a topflight quarterback has to be able to attack a defense on all three levels. Cutler has the ability to do just that. This season he's 4-of-9 on passes thrown 30-plus yards in the air. Those are the big plays. He's hitting on almost half of those strikes, and he'll continue to hit them as long as he has the weapons to target. That will keep defensive coordinators concerned about the deep ball and keep safeties from creeping up to the line of scrimmage to challenge running back Matt Forte. Cutler can make throws to every level, and to the perimeters.
Now, will we get to see more of the "good" Cutler this season? He is in a hard cast to support his ankle, and the time frame for a potential return is a little cloudy. Josh McCown has filled in competently in Cutler's absence, and if McCown continues to succeed in that replacement role, it will draw even more scrutiny regarding Cutler's future. That's especially true if we continue to notice the absence of some of the recurring troubles that have plagued Cutler to this point in his career as we watch McCown drive the Bears' offense.
The vices
Since entering the league in 2006, Cutler has yet to record a season in which he's put up a better touchdown-to-interception ratio than 1.86; that was his first season in Denver, when he played just five games. His best season for scoring -- 27 touchdowns in 2009 -- was also pockmarked by picks, with 26.
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Jay Cutler has fumbled the ball at an alarming rate during his NFL career.
He has averaged 0.6 fumbles per game, a rate that trails only Michael Vick among regular starting quarterbacks with more than three full seasons of experience. His career QBR is 55.7, and he's topped that mark only twice since coming to Chicago, including his mark of 63.2 through Week 10 this season.
I believe many of these shortcomings are the symptoms of what I see on the game film: inconsistent mechanics.
Yes, the Bears have had some poor offensive-line play the past few seasons, but the protection has been above average this season and I'm still seeing poor mechanics from Cutler. Even when that offensive line sets him up with a clean cradle with which to work, he's not setting his feet, he's making poor reads, he's trying to squeeze the ball into nonexistent windows, and he's sometimes delivering the ball from awkward angles when he doesn't have to. Those are not the hallmarks of a franchise quarterback. Also, Cutler continues to hold the ball low, leaving it vulnerable for strips.
The issue is that we're no longer talking about things he can learn. He's 30 years old, in his eighth season with over 100 games to his name. He's played for some very good coaches. At what point do we stop saying, "He's got to show me more," and close the book on him, knowing that for better and worse this is Jay Cutler?
This season
The conditions improved for Cutler over the offseason. As noted, the line play has improved after adding draft picks Kyle Long and Jordan Mills, along with free-agent signing Jermon Bushrod. Chicago gave him another big target in tight end Martellus Bennett, and Alshon Jeffery has emerged as a very good No. 2 receiver across from Marshall. Forte is a solid pass-catcher out of the backfield and creates yards after the catch. Add in the coaching of QB specialist and head coach Marc Trestman, and there's not much more Cutler could ask for.
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The Bears' offense has continued to click with Josh McCown at the helm, while Jay Cutler has been sidelined.
Yes, Cutler's QBR is higher than it's been since 2008, his final season in Denver. But compare that to McCown's QBR, which is at 87.0 after his relief work. The veteran backup has thrown four touchdowns and no interceptions, he hasn't fumbled, and he's averaging 7.69 yards per completion in his three games spelling Cutler.
In terms of rate-based statistics, the only edge Cutler holds over McCown this season is in completion percentage: 63.0 to 60.0. So how much is Cutler carrying the offense and how much is the offense carrying Cutler? That's the question the Bears' front office is going to have to answer this offseason.
The future
As I mentioned earlier, the numbers and the evidence working against Cutler don't paint him as a bad quarterback. But his inconsistent play and lack of dominance don't suggest he's a championship-caliber quarterback, either. And that's what I'm looking for if I'm running a team.
When I evaluate QBs for my quarterly Big Board, I'm looking for the quarterback who is going to go win a Super Bowl. That's admittedly a high standard, but I can guarantee that's exactly what the NFL's coaches and front offices are looking for, as well. No one's saying, "I want a QB who can lock down that second wild card!"
Of course, the decision on Cutler won't be made with that degree of absolutism. If you let him go, you have to replace him. And as we're seeing around the league right now, that's easier said than done. While the draft may offer some good options this spring, there are no guarantees. And if you go the free-agent route, your options include Vick, Chad Henne, Matt Cassel, Josh Freeman, Kellen Clemens, Matt Flynn and Rex Grossman. Is there a clear upgrade there?
The Bears can use the franchise tag on Cutler, and that may be the route they choose. That would give them another year, with the option of drafting another QB and evaluating him for a season while they see if Cutler can show them more. From my perspective, I haven't seen enough to warrant a big-money commitment. If it's me making the call, I'm not handing Cutler a big contract this offseason.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/stor...assive-multi-year-contract-upcoming-offseason
In the National Football League, we've seen plenty of turmoil at the quarterback position this season. Already, 46 different QBs have started games; that's just one shy of last year's total, and we've got seven weeks to go. But one of the most significant situations, in my mind, is the injury to Jay Cutler in Chicago. Not so much because of the ramifications for the Bears' playoff chances, but because of the potential impact on Cutler's future with the team.
Cutler's contract expires at the end of the season, meaning this year has been something of a "show me" season for the quarterback in order to earn a contract on par with the NFL's other franchise passers. Often, those deals come in around the $100 million range. Yes, the Bears have the option of giving Cutler the franchise tag, which means a one-year deal. Based on what I've seen from Cutler this season, I simply don't think he's earned a longer deal, and I would not sign him to a big contract this offseason.
That doesn't mean the Bears won't sign him.
Nor does it make Cutler a "bad" quarterback. But what it does mean is that I've seen enough warning signs from Cutler's play that it would scare me away from a long-term, big-money investment.
Let's break it down.
The virtues
In terms of pure arm talent, there may not be a better quarterback in the NFL than Cutler.
Take that first-quarter touchdown pass to Brandon Marshall against the Detroit Lions on Sunday. That was as pretty a throw as you'll see. I'd say there are only a handful of quarterbacks who can make that throw. If you read my column regularly, you'll know I believe a topflight quarterback has to be able to attack a defense on all three levels. Cutler has the ability to do just that. This season he's 4-of-9 on passes thrown 30-plus yards in the air. Those are the big plays. He's hitting on almost half of those strikes, and he'll continue to hit them as long as he has the weapons to target. That will keep defensive coordinators concerned about the deep ball and keep safeties from creeping up to the line of scrimmage to challenge running back Matt Forte. Cutler can make throws to every level, and to the perimeters.
Now, will we get to see more of the "good" Cutler this season? He is in a hard cast to support his ankle, and the time frame for a potential return is a little cloudy. Josh McCown has filled in competently in Cutler's absence, and if McCown continues to succeed in that replacement role, it will draw even more scrutiny regarding Cutler's future. That's especially true if we continue to notice the absence of some of the recurring troubles that have plagued Cutler to this point in his career as we watch McCown drive the Bears' offense.
The vices
Since entering the league in 2006, Cutler has yet to record a season in which he's put up a better touchdown-to-interception ratio than 1.86; that was his first season in Denver, when he played just five games. His best season for scoring -- 27 touchdowns in 2009 -- was also pockmarked by picks, with 26.
[+] EnlargeJay Cutler
AP Photo/Paul Sancya
Jay Cutler has fumbled the ball at an alarming rate during his NFL career.
He has averaged 0.6 fumbles per game, a rate that trails only Michael Vick among regular starting quarterbacks with more than three full seasons of experience. His career QBR is 55.7, and he's topped that mark only twice since coming to Chicago, including his mark of 63.2 through Week 10 this season.
I believe many of these shortcomings are the symptoms of what I see on the game film: inconsistent mechanics.
Yes, the Bears have had some poor offensive-line play the past few seasons, but the protection has been above average this season and I'm still seeing poor mechanics from Cutler. Even when that offensive line sets him up with a clean cradle with which to work, he's not setting his feet, he's making poor reads, he's trying to squeeze the ball into nonexistent windows, and he's sometimes delivering the ball from awkward angles when he doesn't have to. Those are not the hallmarks of a franchise quarterback. Also, Cutler continues to hold the ball low, leaving it vulnerable for strips.
The issue is that we're no longer talking about things he can learn. He's 30 years old, in his eighth season with over 100 games to his name. He's played for some very good coaches. At what point do we stop saying, "He's got to show me more," and close the book on him, knowing that for better and worse this is Jay Cutler?
This season
The conditions improved for Cutler over the offseason. As noted, the line play has improved after adding draft picks Kyle Long and Jordan Mills, along with free-agent signing Jermon Bushrod. Chicago gave him another big target in tight end Martellus Bennett, and Alshon Jeffery has emerged as a very good No. 2 receiver across from Marshall. Forte is a solid pass-catcher out of the backfield and creates yards after the catch. Add in the coaching of QB specialist and head coach Marc Trestman, and there's not much more Cutler could ask for.
[+] EnlargeJay Cutler
AP Photo/Mike Roemer
The Bears' offense has continued to click with Josh McCown at the helm, while Jay Cutler has been sidelined.
Yes, Cutler's QBR is higher than it's been since 2008, his final season in Denver. But compare that to McCown's QBR, which is at 87.0 after his relief work. The veteran backup has thrown four touchdowns and no interceptions, he hasn't fumbled, and he's averaging 7.69 yards per completion in his three games spelling Cutler.
In terms of rate-based statistics, the only edge Cutler holds over McCown this season is in completion percentage: 63.0 to 60.0. So how much is Cutler carrying the offense and how much is the offense carrying Cutler? That's the question the Bears' front office is going to have to answer this offseason.
The future
As I mentioned earlier, the numbers and the evidence working against Cutler don't paint him as a bad quarterback. But his inconsistent play and lack of dominance don't suggest he's a championship-caliber quarterback, either. And that's what I'm looking for if I'm running a team.
When I evaluate QBs for my quarterly Big Board, I'm looking for the quarterback who is going to go win a Super Bowl. That's admittedly a high standard, but I can guarantee that's exactly what the NFL's coaches and front offices are looking for, as well. No one's saying, "I want a QB who can lock down that second wild card!"
Of course, the decision on Cutler won't be made with that degree of absolutism. If you let him go, you have to replace him. And as we're seeing around the league right now, that's easier said than done. While the draft may offer some good options this spring, there are no guarantees. And if you go the free-agent route, your options include Vick, Chad Henne, Matt Cassel, Josh Freeman, Kellen Clemens, Matt Flynn and Rex Grossman. Is there a clear upgrade there?
The Bears can use the franchise tag on Cutler, and that may be the route they choose. That would give them another year, with the option of drafting another QB and evaluating him for a season while they see if Cutler can show them more. From my perspective, I haven't seen enough to warrant a big-money commitment. If it's me making the call, I'm not handing Cutler a big contract this offseason.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/stor...assive-multi-year-contract-upcoming-offseason
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oh drama
fuck people that like drama more than football. wish they would just watch soap operas.
fuck people that like drama more than football. wish they would just watch soap operas.
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Jaws: Cutler Not Worth Long Term Deal
Regulatorrrrrrrrrrrrs......
Mmmmmmmount up!
Regulatorrrrrrrrrrrrs......
Mmmmmmmount up!
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yeah coming from the guy that said Keapernick will be the GOAT QB and that Flacco and Ryan are top 5 QBs, I'll that with a grain of salt..
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What does he mean by big contract? If he is saying what Flacco got then I agree
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Everybody loved Jaws when he put out pro-Cutler stuff. I wonder how they like him now.
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Cutler will get another contract and the haters will suck #### for another 3-4 years.