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I'm pretty sure they get paid when they sign a contract and at least 100% of them sign contracts before they become coaches.
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I'm pretty sure they get paid when they sign a contract and at least 100% of them sign contracts before they become coaches.
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Do they get paid when they sign the contract? or do they get paid when the money hits their bank account? Or are you suggesting that upon signing said contract they dump some cash all over the head coach? "Make it rain" style....
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Odd comparison. Only 32 teams in NFL, if you suck you guaranteed a top draft pick and salary cap has every on even playing field. So the NFL model is built for bad teams to get better hence the parity.
By contrast, in college you competing against hundreds of schools, shitty teams don't get first crack at best players, and high profile programs have a massive recruiting advantage.
So it would be like the Pats having the top draft pick every year. Hence why Alabama wins and then gets the best recruits every year.
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Or maybe it's just easier being patient when it's not your team?
And plenty of teams turn it around fast in college football.
(turn it around doesn't mean compete with Alabama either)
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Well of course it is easier to be patient when it is something you don't care about. Doesn't change the fact the situation is completely different and not comparable at all.
If there are college teams that turn it around fast then compare Lovie to those teams. Comparing him to Pace though makes no sense.
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I am not comparing Lovie to Pace. I am comparing fans reactions to the "rebuilds" on both those teams.
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Illinois couldn't have done better than hiring Lovie Smith. No one better wanted the job. The Bears could have done better than hiring Ryan Pace. Compare Lovie's credentials to Pace's credentials. Let me know when they offer Lovie an extension after 3 years of finishing in last place.
Its much easier to rebuild in the NFL than in a Power 5 conference. The NFL is designed for bad teams to become good...NCAA is designed for the the good teams to remain good.
Its much easier to rebuild in the NFL than in a Power 5 conference. The NFL is designed for bad teams to become good...NCAA is designed for the the good teams to remain good.
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They should have rehired Ron Turner: the guy who everyone on the cbmb excoriated for turning Cutler down for a scholarship at U of I lol
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Who was available at that time that wanted the Bears job?
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For what? Do you really require an explanation as to why turning around a college program is different to managing an NFL team? Most of the answer is already in this thread.
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That clueless buffoon isn't worth $5 a year. Maybe they can trade him for a bag of peanuts or popcorn, certainly not both.
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So basically you're saying a college team should take 5-6 years to turn around but an NFL team should take what? 2-3 years?
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For reasons already given, a struggling, lower profile NCAA program is a much bigger and more cumbersome ship to turn around than an NFL franchise, yes. Much more so. Lovie has to get his program to a place where he can begin to persuade prospects and agents that his program is a good place to come to before he can land even good, far less great prospects. He doesn't get to just sign the best defensive player in the country with the stroke of a pen.
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Chris Ballard, Chiefs director of player personnel
Morocco Brown, Browns vice president of player personnel
Eric DeCosta, Ravens assistant general manager
Brian Gaine, Texans director of pro personnel
Tom Gamble, Eagles vice president of player personnel
Scot McCloughan, consultant
George Paton, Vikings assistant general manager
Duke Tobin, Bengals director of player personnel
Lionel Vital, Falcons director of player personnel
Eliot Wolf, Packers director of pro personnel
Brian Xanders, Lions senior personnel executive
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WHAT? So you think that Power 5 conference standings basically get turned upside down every 5-6 years? 5 years from now we'll have Kansas winning the Big12 and Indiana will be playing Illinois in the Big10 title game while Ohio State and Oklahoma are going 2-10?
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All these guys wanted the Bears job? or you wanted them? DeCosta is the Ravens future GM and turned down many chances to be a GM.
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They were never going to win right away. But, they need to start showing a little more competitiveness against better competition if not get a program building win. Right now, there is no allure to Illini football to draw in 4 star recruits to have a real chance at being better in a few more years.
The first half of the Penn State game was good. Then they got destroyed in the 2nd half so bad that it negated any positives of the 1st.
The first half of the Penn State game was good. Then they got destroyed in the 2nd half so bad that it negated any positives of the 1st.
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WTF are you even talking about?
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Football isn't a priority for Illinois.
What do fans want the program to look like? It's never going to be a top tier program.
What should yearly expectations be? 6-7 wins?
What do fans want the program to look like? It's never going to be a top tier program.
What should yearly expectations be? 6-7 wins?
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College football has proven time and time that it's more about coaching than recruits. Plenty of two or three star recruits go on to be NFL stars. Plenty of college teams have turned it around fast with good coaching. So i don't really buy the whole he needs time to get his program in place thing. He needs to coach better.
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