I'm expecting a fast start next year to the offense thanks to BJ

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I sort of agree with the OP. If the Bears’ offense isn’t markedly better - game one - then BJ didnt do his job. If their offense is as bad as last year, something is wrong. This assumes the o-line is competently addressed in the off season. They don’t need to lead the league but they need to be better fast.
Markedly better - game one? I expect improvement, but the amount of work and time needed to mesh all the changes that need to be made, so that the playcaller, QB and entire offense is like a well-oiled machine is not just likely to happen. It is going to take some play in games that matter, the regular season, to get the on the job training necessary before I expect to see "marked" improvement.
 

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I predict everyone’s right back to predicting 10-11 wins.

Ben Johnson and the Bears are going to have to prove it before I predict anything good.

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Someone who’s been a Bears fan for more than 2 seconds.
OP does this with every coaching hire
 

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Markedly better - game one? I expect improvement, but the amount of work and time needed to mesh all the changes that need to be made, so that the playcaller, QB and entire offense is like a well-oiled machine is not just likely to happen. It is going to take some play in games that matter, the regular season, to get the on the job training necessary before I expect to see "marked" improvement.

I did not say or intend to infer that they would be a “well oiled machine” game one. Better by comparison to last year at a given point and not fall apart after starting 4-2.
 

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I did not say or intend to infer that they would be a “well oiled machine” game one. Better by comparison to last year at a given point and not fall apart after starting 4-2.
Better by comparison? Absolutely, BFJ, but then my high school team's scheme and execution would be better than what Getsy and Waldron gave us the past couple years! But I agree with you, and a reasonable expectation, for certain.
 

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I'm willing to bet the OL is already better then last year.
It's only a matter of months before we see the articles about how Braxton Jones is in the best shape of his life and this is the best training camp he's ever had.
Followed up with in depth pieces about how his rehab caused him fully rebuild his anchoring technique from the ground up.
 

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So far I'm cautiously optimistic in that they seem to be making good decisions. However between now and the upcoming season there are multiple land mines to navigate. Number one being how they handle to O line.
Exactly.............For Johnson to repeat the success he had as an OC in his first year calling plays in Detroit, as our new HC the OL must be fixed. The OL Johnson had that first year in Detroit consisted of Ragnow, Jackson, Decker and Sewell as a rookie. That OL already had the majority of pieces in place. Hopefully a new line of three or four new players will jell as quickly as the Washington OL did this year after they added three new players.
 

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Yes, I know, winning a press conference doesn't mean shit.

But its more about the details that Ben shared, combined with learning more about what kind of coach he is and his success as a play caller with the Lions.


Point I am getting at?


Cliff notes is look at Kliff Kingsbury and Jayden Daniels.



To expound on that, Kliff was able to get Jayden off to a fast start because not only did he cut the field in half for his QB (something that won't be necessary for Caleb at this point), he took a lot of the plays Jayden liked from college and put them in the play book (with the obvious upgrades to NFL level of course). A decent portion of the Commanders' offensive playbook comes from what Jayden ran in college. That's because he wanted Jayden to play fast and not have to think as much on the line.


Ben basically confirmed he is going to do the same thing with Caleb. They are going to get on the same page, and while Caleb is learning how to see the game through Ben's eyes, Ben is also going to make notes on what Caleb likes to do and put that into the playbook. And if he is doing that with Caleb, you best believe he is also going to be doing the same thing with Kmet, Moore, and Rome, asking what routes they like and what they are good at, reviewing tape, etc.

Seems like this would be common sense, right? Well, not all OCs do it this way. In fact, MOST DON'T. Most OCs learn a system, and try to get players to fit that system. It takes a novel understanding off offense and why certain things are done to be able to engineer an offense from the ground up. And Ben showed with the Lions, he has that and gets it.

What this means is when we finally get to the games, you will have a very comfortable Caleb Williams (provided the line gets addressed), and receivers and a tight end that are energized to play hard because they know all their favorite plays are in the playbook, which keeps them engaged.

Doesn't mean the players will drive the complete playbook. But I guarantee you - their favorite things to do on the field will be the backbone that Ben will build out from. And because of the buy in from including that, he will have buy in for those players to also run other plays, as everyone waits their turn for their play to eventually be dialed up.

There will always be some hiccups when installing a new offense. But I expect this one to hit the ground running like they did in Washington this past year.

Get excited.
My motto for this franchise after last season is expect the worst, hope for the best. It not pessimistic with this franchise its wise thinking. I was excited and hyped up going into the 2024 season, the clown show that actually happened was awful.

Prove it Bears, prove it Caleb, prove it Johnson. I like what I am hearing, until proven I am not buying into it yet
 

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My motto for this franchise after last season is expect the worst, hope for the best. It not pessimistic with this franchise its wise thinking. I was excited and hyped up going into the 2024 season, the clown show that actually happened was awful.

Prove it Bears, prove it Caleb, prove it Johnson. I like what I am hearing, until proven I am not buying into it yet

But ... But ... But ...

Best second year situation for a second year quarterback ever.
 

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But ... But ... But ...

Best second year situation for a second year quarterback ever.
Yes, Rookie HC, Brand new O scheme to be learned. Brand new D scheme to be learned.. I'm sure all the players are perfect for both. What could go wrong?
 

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What a pathetic franchise

Chicago Bears weirdly take credit for Lions’ postseason award​


 

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They literally took a picture and said congratulations. Cry fvck wad
That is so cringe worthy. Dressing him up in Bears gear and congratulating him on an award he won as a Lions.
Only the Bears PR department would be that clueless.
 

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That is so cringe worthy. Dressing him up in Bears gear and congratulating him on an award he won as a Lions.
Only the Bears PR department would be that clueless.

The fact that you're mad and talking about it proves that the PR people for the Bears did their jobs properly. 🤣

The fact that you're too stupid to even register what they did is just icing on the cake.

:bearstroll:
 

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Yes, I know, winning a press conference doesn't mean shit.

But its more about the details that Ben shared, combined with learning more about what kind of coach he is and his success as a play caller with the Lions.


Point I am getting at?


Cliff notes is look at Kliff Kingsbury and Jayden Daniels.



To expound on that, Kliff was able to get Jayden off to a fast start because not only did he cut the field in half for his QB (something that won't be necessary for Caleb at this point), he took a lot of the plays Jayden liked from college and put them in the play book (with the obvious upgrades to NFL level of course). A decent portion of the Commanders' offensive playbook comes from what Jayden ran in college. That's because he wanted Jayden to play fast and not have to think as much on the line.


Ben basically confirmed he is going to do the same thing with Caleb. They are going to get on the same page, and while Caleb is learning how to see the game through Ben's eyes, Ben is also going to make notes on what Caleb likes to do and put that into the playbook. And if he is doing that with Caleb, you best believe he is also going to be doing the same thing with Kmet, Moore, and Rome, asking what routes they like and what they are good at, reviewing tape, etc.

Seems like this would be common sense, right? Well, not all OCs do it this way. In fact, MOST DON'T. Most OCs learn a system, and try to get players to fit that system. It takes a novel understanding off offense and why certain things are done to be able to engineer an offense from the ground up. And Ben showed with the Lions, he has that and gets it.

What this means is when we finally get to the games, you will have a very comfortable Caleb Williams (provided the line gets addressed), and receivers and a tight end that are energized to play hard because they know all their favorite plays are in the playbook, which keeps them engaged.

Doesn't mean the players will drive the complete playbook. But I guarantee you - their favorite things to do on the field will be the backbone that Ben will build out from. And because of the buy in from including that, he will have buy in for those players to also run other plays, as everyone waits their turn for their play to eventually be dialed up.

There will always be some hiccups when installing a new offense. But I expect this one to hit the ground running like they did in Washington this past year.

Get excited.

And we are expecting you to post another thread closer to mini camp saying we need to be patient with this team because Caleb is learning a new system and that it is very complex. You will also throw in that your connects within the organization say CW and BJ share a scone every morning before going over the days gameplan
 

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And we are expecting you to post another thread closer to mini camp saying we need to be patient with this team because Caleb is learning a new system and that it is very complex. You will also throw in that your connects within the organization say CW and BJ share a scone every morning before going over the days gameplan

Maybe don't be a hormonal ass hat who thinks only in terms of extremes?

I expect a fast start in terms of points scored. I also don't expect the offense to run completely smooth, but smoother than most year one offenses tend to run. It won't be without hiccups. But it will be a significant improvement.

That is called a nuanced take - its what normal people have.
 

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Bears will start the season vs. the Lions. Book it... It’ll be the only must see Lions game of the season. Bears will curb stomp them, get everybody’s hopes up, and then be mid the rest of the season.
 

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Maybe don't be a hormonal ass hat who thinks only in terms of extremes?

I expect a fast start in terms of points scored. I also don't expect the offense to run completely smooth, but smoother than most year one offenses tend to run. It won't be without hiccups. But it will be a significant improvement.

That is called a nuanced take - its what normal people have.
LMAO at you calling anyone a "hormonal ass hat" can we just fast forward to the part where you tell us your insider says CW and BJ are taking mudbaths with each other
 

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Maybe don't be a hormonal ass hat who thinks only in terms of extremes?

I expect a fast start in terms of points scored. I also don't expect the offense to run completely smooth, but smoother than most year one offenses tend to run. It won't be without hiccups. But it will be a significant improvement.

That is called a nuanced take - its what normal people have.
This is absolutely beautiful coming from the board's most unwell extremist

HYDROCARBONS LMFAOO
 

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But, but, these are the Bears where the offense is offensive to watch regardless of the play caller and OC. I also have zero faith in Poles assembling an above average NFL caliber OL. The poor OL will surely hamper BJ as a play caller. By the end of the first year, BJ will be wondering what the **** he signed up for because - Bears.
That's what worries me; Poles not being able to fix the offensive line. My hope is Ben being the coach he has a better eye for it and being an offensive coach Poles will prioritize offense more than defefense since Eberflus isn't around now?
 

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