In Retrospect: Was the tear down really necessary?

[Joker85]

It was, the only problem is Poles tore down a below average talent roster and wasted 3 years to rebuild a below average talent roster.

He did fine at burning away all of Pace's dead wood and restoring draft and cap resources. Then he proceeded to squander both of those on his own dead wood.

 

[Payton34Sayers40]

Poles could've moved on from Flus at the end of last season. Unless you ascribe to the theory that he was handcuffed there as well.

True. It’s hard to say whether he was handcuffed or not… or was it a different kind of pressure that Poles was feeling…. meaning, him knowing that George had picked Flus so he wanted to give him a longer leash.

Either way, a competent coach would have likely put this team in the playoffs the last 2 years. There is talent on the roster. It’s just been grossly mismanaged.

 

[remydat]

Without the tear down, we don't have Caleb. It was necessary. The end.

 

[jive]

You wouldn't have a winning team though. That team was also atrocious and had no cap space to add talent and minimal draft capital to make bad picks with.

Those teams had better records that this team has. We have nothing to show for our tons of cap space and draft capital other than a losing record.

 

[baselman1974]

Edmunds and Nate Davis signing are huge mistakes. Off the ball LBs are not worth big money. Unless its Fred Warner, a future HOF. Draft them like GB did with Walker and Cooper.

Trading for garbage ass OL like Bates and Feeney are mistakes. Need an LT because Braxton Jones sucks. Tevin Jenkins and Darnell Wright regressed. I might blame that on OL coach that should've been fired 2 years ago.

Claypool trade is really bad. Allen wasn't necessary. Its a shitshow

 

[jsu34]

Tear down was 100% absolutely necessary. This isn’t even a question. Mack is not someone that can be built around and he wasn’t at that time either. You also don’t build your team around an off the ball linebacker too.

Do they have the guy yet? If not, was he available and Poles missed him?

 

[SugarWalls]

Yes the tear down was necessary, the problem is poles is trading draft capital and whiffing on the majority of his picks, building both sides of the ball outside in as opposed to inside out, and eberflus was a disaster as have been all OC’s

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Yes.

 

[jive]

You also don’t build your team around an off the ball linebacker too.

Brian Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Jack Lambert, Dick Butkus and other HOFers would like to have a word with you

 

[Applefan]

I'm leaning towards this being mishandled by Pace at key moments. Starting to lean towards not really caring if they cut him loose and get a new GM/HC pairing. My thoughts watching this season wonder if the resources we placed in other areas should have been more focused on DL and OL with mid-level WR talent. You would have still had DJ Moore in that trade with the Panthers, but instead of adding some of the offensive weapons, the trenches should have gotten more proper attention. This may have significantly altered how things are going. The argument could be made for either side of this question. I agree where other posters said blowing it up for the long term viability was probably the correct choice. In pure Bears fashion, you can look at many points prior to the rebuild and during the rebuild that they just missed the mark (once again) in obvious areas fans keep screaming about year after year.

Ian Cunningham "grew up" professionally with Ravens and Eagles,2 teams who have won Super Bowls in the last 25 years with the likes of Dilfer and Foles. Those teams strengths were their lines. Granted,Cunningham wasn't employed by the Ravens during their '00-'01 SB run,but just by being around those 2 teams he grew up in,he should have pushed Poles more to stress the lines first.

 

[onebud34]

Those teams had better records that this team has. We have nothing to show for our tons of cap space and draft capital other than a losing record.

The division was a lot weaker then too.

Det was usually good for 2 wins and a split with Minny. Flus couldn't even get you there.

 

[onebud34]

Ian Cunningham "grew up" professionally with Ravens and Eagles,2 teams who have won Super Bowls in the last 25 years with the likes of Dilfer and Foles. Those teams strengths were their lines. Granted,Cunningham wasn't employed by the Ravens during their '00-'01 SB run,but just by being around those 2 teams he grew up in,he should have pushed Poles more to stress the lines first.

I mean...the Ravens had a pretty good OL/DL the second time around.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Brian Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Jack Lambert, Dick Butkus and other HOFers would like to have a word with you

I mean some of that was an entirely different era so what’s applicable today may not have been then

 

[onebud34]

I mean some of that was an entirely different era so what’s applicable today may not have been then

Outside of maybe Butkus, they all benefitted from great DL play.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Brian Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Jack Lambert, Dick Butkus and other HOFers would like to have a word with you

lol. Way to go naming players from long ago eras. And smith doesn’t belong in the same sentence as Lewis or Urlacher especially considering Smith doesn’t show up in the playoffs. Nice try though

 

[cameronkrazie86]

The tear down was fine, only wish they had done it by the trade deadline prior to Poles being hired. The execution of the rebuild has been dogshit.

 

[Szlachcic]

The teardown was necessary, but Poles failed during rebuild. LINES are the foundation of a team, just like any structure without a solid foundation it will fail.. When Poles was hired I thought him being a lineman himself, he would take care of this side of the team first. Apparently he is not smart enough to realize this..

 

[truthbedamned]

This is why I **** with you Jive, you ask the real questions

Only after 5 bowls and some gummies.

 

[Applefan]

I mean...the Ravens had a pretty good OL/DL the second time around.

Yeah. I used the earlier example because Flacco is a better qb than Dilfer was.

 

[jive]

Only after 5 bowls and some gummies.

I haven't smoked a bowl in ages, and I have an insane tolerance for edibles.
Mostly joints and vapes for me, and when I partake in gummies, it's bags at a time.