Is ADHD a Fictional Disease?

[winos5]

Over diagnosis of ADHD</p>


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Tend towards agreeing with him except for plugging his book in his article.   </p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

No, I have it and it sucks.</p>

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

Like many things, it becomes the in thing to call (diagnose). There is sooo much more that needs to be understood.

 

[TSD]

As we discussed eariler in this thread.  Almost everyone has a few of the symptoms of ADD, and you don't need to suffer from all of them to be diagnosed.</p>

 

[TSD]

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No, I have it and it sucks.</p>
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Mental retardation isn't ADD </p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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As we discussed eariler in this thread.  Almost everyone has a few of the symptoms of ADD, and you don't need to suffer from all of them to be diagnosed.</p></blockquote>


Wait... what are we talking about again? Trains?







Squirrel!

 

[supraman]

I like turtles</p>

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

Why are there no chicks in this chat room?</p>

 

[JOVE23]

TRADE KANE FOR let's ride bikes</p>

 

[mikita's helmet]

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Honestly I say it is a load of bullshit and it is due to bad parenting. Smack your kids more.</p>
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Is that what happened to you? rcs-buttshake:</p>

 

[LordKOTL]

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Honestly I say it is a load of bullshit and it is due to bad parenting. Smack your kids more.</p>
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I got the shit smacked out of me to hell and back as a kid and is didn't help my "behavior".  I'm sure my wife could tell you exactly "why" that was the case.  Discipline is good, but IMHO is not the reason for, or method of cure for, ADHD.</p>


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I think that true blue cases of ADHD have to be dealt with appropriately, but for everyone else kids just have to be kids--and that means running, jumping, yelling, screaming, making up goofy games without any semblance of rules (like Cavlinball), and coming home filthy.  I think the majority of non ADHD kids who are misdiagnosed just have no outlet to be a kid.</p>

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

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I got the shit smacked out of me to hell and back as a kid and is didn't help my "behavior".  I'm sure my wife could tell you exactly "why" that was the case.  Discipline is good, but IMHO is not the reason for, or method of cure for, ADHD.
 
I think that true blue cases of ADHD have to be dealt with appropriately, but for everyone else kids just have to be kids--and that means running, jumping, yelling, screaming, making up goofy games without any semblance of rules (like Cavlinball), and coming home filthy.  I think the majority of non ADHD kids who are misdiagnosed just have no outlet to be a kid.</p></blockquote>
And not being forced into a multitude of things and events constantly. Sometimes that downtime is pretty effective in behavior and learning.

 

[LordKOTL]

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And not being forced into a multitude of things and events constantly. Sometimes that downtime is pretty effective in behavior and learning.</p>
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I fully agree.  Even adults need times with no structure and rules. It's all about balance.</p>

 

[phranchk]

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And not being forced into a multitude of things and events constantly. Sometimes that downtime is pretty effective in behavior and learning.</p>
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This is also supported in behavioural science studies. Kids do much of their learning during this downtime. Especially learning how to interact and communicate. Non-rigid interactions, essentially playtime, is vital.</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

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I got the shit smacked out of me to hell and back as a kid and is didn't help my "behavior".  I'm sure my wife could tell you exactly "why" that was the case.  Discipline is good, but IMHO is not the reason for, or method of cure for, ADHD.</p>


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I think that true blue cases of ADHD have to be dealt with appropriately, but for everyone else kids just have to be kids--and that means running, jumping, yelling, screaming, making up goofy games without any semblance of rules (like Cavlinball), and coming home filthy.  I think the majority of non ADHD kids who are misdiagnosed just have no outlet to be a kid.</p>
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Agreed as one of the True Blues. Just because your kid is being a kid doesnt mean they need pills.</p>

 

[LordKOTL]

The thing is, TDMA, I would put Euro to Fornits that the circumstances of my life happend 10-15 years later and I was 10-15 years younger, I would have been drugged into submission.  Not because I needed it, but because I wasn't the good, quiet, and obedient little boy my stepmom thought I should have been.</p>

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

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This is also supported in behavioural science studies. Kids do much of their learning during this downtime. Especially learning how to interact and communicate. Non-rigid interactions, essentially playtime, is vital.</p>
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The thing about downtime, from what I have read and my own experiences, is the open though process or replay process that happens.  For me it is lots of creativity.</p>


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Considering many studies that have proven that memory retention happens during sleep and 7+ hours of it, that is another thing as well.   For any age.   I know that some of my nieces and nephews barely get 5-6 hours a night.</p>

 

[supraman]

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I got the shit smacked out of me to hell and back as a kid and is didn't help my "behavior".  I'm sure my wife could tell you exactly "why" that was the case.  Discipline is good, but IMHO is not the reason for, or method of cure for, ADHD.</p>


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I think that true blue cases of ADHD have to be dealt with appropriately, but for everyone else kids just have to be kids--and that means running, jumping, yelling, screaming, making up goofy games without any semblance of rules (like Cavlinball), and coming home filthy.  I think the majority of non ADHD kids who are misdiagnosed just have no outlet to be a kid.</p>
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Yeah I'll go with that. Growing up in my neighborhood on a nice summer evening. EVERY SINGLE kid on the street was outside playing. Some of the parents were on their porches talking but all the kids were outside playing. I never see kids outside playing anymore and I live in Florida for fucksake where the weather is pretty nice most of the year. So yeah I can go along with kids arent able to be kids anymore</p>

 

[LordKOTL]

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Yeah I'll go with that. Growing up in my neighborhood on a nice summer evening. EVERY SINGLE kid on the street was outside playing. Some of the parents were on their porches talking but all the kids were outside playing. I never see kids outside playing anymore and I live in Florida for fucksake where the weather is pretty nice most of the year. So yeah I can go along with kids arent able to be kids anymore</p>
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I do see kids playing around my neighborhood, which is good-there's some spark of hope against parents who are overly neurotic and don't want to let their kids out of their sight, protection, and won't teach them autonomy until they are 18.</p>


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In my case though, I do know there are issue with just "kids playing outside". As a kid, the neighborhood we lived in was good, and had a vew forests/ravines to explore (a necessary childhood activity, by the way), but I literally had no kids my age living anywehre near me--unlike my bro and stepsiblings.  As such, If I went outside to play, I played alone.  As a consequence of playing alone, I would either be doing mischeivous stuff (one can only ride their bike around the block so many times), going beyond the limits of where I was allowed to go, or building stuff like bike ramps and doing "dangerous" stuff (like climbing a goddamned tree!!!!)--all of which got me in trouble.  Not to mention the fact that I was more often than not grounded for some reason (hell, some of them even valid reasons). </p>


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But really, in my case I was urged to go and play outside, but I had no one to play with, so it would mean making my own fun, which was more often than not--against the rules.  So, as a parent, if you're trying to chase your kid outside--work with them on it.  They'll want to come back inside if everything they try to do for amusement (like tie a giant rubber band between two fir trees to make a giant slingshot for launching pinecones) you won't let them do and there's no one for them to play with.</p>