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Josh McCown seemed to be put into a good situation...Marshall, Jeffery, Forte, Bennett.
you talking about the same guy bear fans called McClown just the year prior? lol ok
Josh McCown seemed to be put into a good situation...Marshall, Jeffery, Forte, Bennett.
What on earth are you talking about?
So the Qb controls everything? essentially OC's and offensive scheme is of no importance? IS that what youre talking about?
That was the case with Cutler. It didn't matter who the coordinator was, it didn't matter who the surrounding cast was...Cutler would always Cutler.
Not sure how "offensive scheme" plays into the Good Jay/Bad Jay discussion, but oh well.
Cutler never had Nagy calling plays for him. It was a carousel of decent-at-best guys. Not saying Cutler was great, just that he never had a cutting-edge kind of offensive mind behind him like Trubisky does.
Let's both stop thinking Cutler was utter trash, and let's also let Trubisky have some time to develop and show what he can do. Cutler was an overall middle-of-the-road QB and Trubisky just finished his first 16 games as a starter while only entering game 5 in the new offense, so we can't make a determination on him once and for all yet. By the end of the year, we'll have a really good idea of what he'll be in the NFL going forward.
Cutler never had Nagy calling plays for him. It was a carousel of decent-at-best guys. Not saying Cutler was great, just that he never had a cutting-edge kind of offensive mind behind him like Trubisky does.
Remember when Trestman started 3-1?
Remember when Trestman started 3-1?
Hard to call Trestman a cutting edge guy when he'd bounced around from job to job for the entirety of his carrer. He had his one good year then flamed out, and Cutler was decent that year as a result.
It didn't matter who was calling plays for Cutler.....
He threw into double and triple coverage
He had zero ball security in the pocket
He consistently threw off the wrong foot even when he didn't need to
He relied on his arm which made him look good at times, but his brain kept him from getting better.
Hard to call Trestman a cutting edge guy
Right now, there's not a lot of argument that Sean McVay and Matt Nagy are two of the most highly touted young offensive-minded head coached in the NFL.
Well certainly not retread has been (recently fired) coaches like the Bears org always hired.
Point is this was nothing new with chicago. they knew absolutely nothing about Qb development. The Bears destroyed most of those careers obviously. No way a team just happens to go through near 40 busts. jay was on his way up in Denver under Shanny. .
And one of his best under Gase (one season). Id just like to have seen consistency at the scheme for much of his career to know really how it would have been. obviously all the successful QB's have/had this.
Imagine if Matt Forte had been able to play with a better QB, he might have put up LT/Faulk/Priest Holmes numbers.