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Huge Floyd fan, I meant Floyd's music is better.

BTW I could give a **** about internet reputation so if it makes you feel better dislike away.

Ahh. Good deal then. I'm a huge Floyd fan as well.

And the disliking thing is just a joke by the way. I only dislike people if they're being asshats. Not for opinions.
 

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I listen to the Final Cut almost daily. There's proably something wrong there but I love that album lol
 

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I listen to the Final Cut almost daily. There's proably something wrong there but I love that album lol

Waters actually quotes that album a ton in his first solo album (The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking [Clapton on guitar]), most prominently "The Fletcher Memorial Home." They're mostly melodic quotations of vocal lines 4 to 10 notes long transposed to guitar or backing band or chord progressions, but if you're really familiar with Floyd's catalog the album is just rife with little gems like that as well as tons of motifs from The Wall in phrases where the subject material is similar. He actually kind of uses them as leitmotif a lot of the time.

It's actually pretty solid album musically once you get used to the style of coupling large groups of tracks into a narrative -- kind of similar to The Wall .
 

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Eh its much worse than that IMO.

There are modern pro-Nazi White Power groups with plenty of young members. They are not just old assholes who can't let go of the past.

Creepy old dudes you can ignore and wait for them to die.... not so much with the modern White Power nutbags.


IMO its the survivalist white power types...I honestly havent seen any old geezers into that with the exception of WW2 memorabilia collectors who covet the items, but not the philosophy

I hear Idaho is a haven for the white power survivalist types
 

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Waters actually quotes that album a ton in his first solo album (The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking [Clapton on guitar]), most prominently "The Fletcher Memorial Home." They're mostly melodic quotations of vocal lines 4 to 10 notes long transposed to guitar or backing band or chord progressions, but if you're really familiar with Floyd's catalog the album is just rife with little gems like that as well as tons of motifs from The Wall in phrases where the subject material is similar. He actually kind of uses them as leitmotif a lot of the time.

It's actually pretty solid album musically once you get used to the style of coupling large groups of tracks into a narrative -- kind of similar to The Wall .

I'll have to listen to the pros and cons again, nice. The Final Cut is very "The Wall" -ish. Some great music on that album.
 

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I'll have to listen to the pros and cons again, nice. The Final Cut is very "The Wall" -ish. Some great music on that album.

A couple of the tunes on The Final Cut were in the movie version of The Wall and were re-recorded/reworked for album release then mixed in with new material; so the similarities completely make sense. It was actually originally supposed to be entirely left over material from the film that wouldn't fit on the double album release before they decided to change it up and have it be "stand alone."

It is a great album though -- there's actually very little pre- or post-departure of Waters that I don't really enjoy. Even their early "Beatles, combined with the Doors, combined with the Animals" sounding stuff before they really found their own voice is pretty solid overall.
 

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A couple of the tunes on The Final Cut were in the movie version of The Wall and were re-recorded/reworked for album release then mixed in with new material; so the similarities completely make sense. It was actually originally supposed to be entirely left over material from the film that wouldn't fit on the double album release before they decided to change it up and have it be "stand alone."

It is a great album though -- there's actually very little pre- or post-departure of Waters that I don't really enjoy. Even their early "Beatles, combined with the Doors, combined with the Animals" sounding stuff before they really found their own voice is pretty solid overall.

Are you referring to piper at the gates of dawn? That's the one album I can't get into for some reason. I never was a big Syd Barrett fan.
 

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Are you referring to piper at the gates of dawn? That's the one album I can't get into for some reason. I never was a big Syd Barrett fan.


Syd is cool for the nostalgia and all... But musically I get little from him.
 

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Wish You Were Here or Animals would be my favorite Floyd LPs.
 

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Are you referring to piper at the gates of dawn? That's the one album I can't get into for some reason. I never was a big Syd Barrett fan.

I was thinking more of the transitional period where they were just starting to really figure out their style (Atom Heart Mother, Meddle, and Obscured by Clouds).

Oddly enough Meddle sounds almost exactly like some of the stuff Gilmour went back to writing after Floyd was done (compare it to his 2006 album On an Island [he had some pretty solid help with recording that one too; Crosby, Nash, Wright, amongst others]), but still has some very oddly Beatles like moments as well as the random traditional blues tune.

Obscured by Clouds is kind of the same way where you can tell they still aren't quite sure what direction to go in. One foot is firmly in the door of Dark Side, while half the tunes were still stuck in that late '60s super early psychedelic rock style that they were doing in Piper.

I still haven't gotten around to listening the new album they just released in November that is a bunch of studio work Gilmour, Wright, and Mason had done while recording Division Bell that they decided to revisit after Wright died. Here it is though if anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dw8aFj5cwQ&list=PLrXl1WrYvNbhAQqwvKPjwVBHEWl4y3QPo
 

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I'll have to listen to the pros and cons again, nice. The Final Cut is very "The Wall" -ish. Some great music on that album.

I took the time today to listen to the whole thing straight through. Haven't done that in years. It has some GREAT moments IMO but like most things with Floyd.... when you get too much Waters or too much Gilmour it's just not the same. PF was always at their best when there was collaboration between the two of them. It is Wall-ish as you say... but it doesn't rise to the level of The Wall IMO.
 

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I was thinking more of the transitional period where they were just starting to really figure out their style (Atom Heart Mother, Meddle, and Obscured by Clouds).

Oddly enough Meddle sounds almost exactly like some of the stuff Gilmour went back to writing after Floyd was done (compare it to his 2006 album On an Island [he had some pretty solid help with recording that one too; Crosby, Nash, Wright, amongst others]), but still has some very oddly Beatles like moments as well as the random traditional blues tune.

Obscured by Clouds is kind of the same way where you can tell they still aren't quite sure what direction to go in. One foot is firmly in the door of Dark Side, while half the tunes were still stuck in that late '60s super early psychedelic rock style that they were doing in Piper.

I still haven't gotten around to listening the new album they just released in November that is a bunch of studio work Gilmour, Wright, and Mason had done while recording Division Bell that they decided to revisit after Wright died. Here it is though if anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dw8aFj5cwQ&list=PLrXl1WrYvNbhAQqwvKPjwVBHEWl4y3QPo

I'll have to look those albums up again and listen to them. Dark Side forward is usually what I listen to so it has been a while since I've listened to obscured by clouds or meddle. Although now looking at their discography Saucer full of Secrets was pretty good and I think that was Syd Barrett IIRC?

Division Bell was disappointing. It has a few good songs but kind of bordered on pop. I haven't listened to the new one either but have been told it sounds a lot like Division Bell.
 

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I took the time today to listen to the whole thing straight through. Haven't done that in years. It has some GREAT moments IMO but like most things with Floyd.... when you get too much Waters or too much Gilmour it's just not the same. PF was always at their best when there was collaboration between the two of them. It is Wall-ish as you say... but it doesn't rise to the level of The Wall IMO.

No it doesn't but the song flow of the album reminds me of The Wall. Not Now John is my favorite track.
 

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I'll have to look those albums up again and listen to them. Dark Side forward is usually what I listen to so it has been a while since I've listened to obscured by clouds or meddle. Although now looking at their discography Saucer full of Secrets was pretty good and I think that was Syd Barrett IIRC?

Division Bell was disappointing. It has a few good songs but kind of bordered on pop. I haven't listened to the new one either but have been told it sounds a lot like Division Bell.

Echoes is the reason to listen to Meddle...

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