IST: 2nd Round - (3) Chicago Bulls vs (2) Cleveland Cavs (Cavs lead 3-2)

[Scoot26]

Brooks should also see more playing time given no MCW this round.. That should open up more 3's for him too.

 

[clonetrooper264]

BUT THEY HAVE TO!

I think 3 point shooting is going to be very key. So I hope if Butler and Rose suck more, that guys like Snell and Niko can step up their game (Their 1st round %'s sucked).

Brooks should also see more playing time given no MCW this round.. That should open up more 3's for him too.

Agreed. We need to be hitting 3s to win. If all they have to do is pack the paint, we're in trouble.

 

[The Hawk]

I would play hack a King for this series. I'd double team Lebron every damn time he gets the ball. I'd throw Gibson, Mirotic, Noah, and Snell on his ass and basically track him like a pack of wolves. Without Love and Smith, let the other cast of characters try and beat the remainder of the Bulls. But let Butler match up against someone else and not wear himself out trying and gaurd Lebron. Let Lebron wear himself up trying to guard Butler, not the other way around.

By the end of this series, I want to see the scowl on the guy's face wondering what the **** hit him. I want the re-birth of the Bulls ball-hawk defense, bring on the junk yard dogs!

 

[Naptastic]

Pau seems to fold like a beach chair when guys get aggressive with him and Mozgov certainly will

we need Rose to outplay Kyrie and Jimmy to just keep playing like he is...the rest of the team needs to stay aggressive and focused as they were tonight

hopefully Thibs is ready to make the right adjustments and in a timely fashion...like in-game not 3 games later...i noticed the jumbo didn't play last night and hopefully never will again

we'll see how it goes...im still skeptical of this team...seen enough where one great game doesn't change things....they haven't shown me they can stay consistent

Hopefully, the Bucks prepared them for this series. They played real physical, and we saw the trouble the bulls had with it. They've had plenty of time to adjust though, and should be prepared for it. Cant say it'd be a surprise, they know its coming.

 

[knoxville7]

Rk	Player	G	MP	FG%	3P	3PA	3P% ▾	2P%	eFG%	FT%	PTS
1	E'Twaun Moore	1	4.0	.500	1.0	1.0	1.000	.000	.750		3.0
2	Mike Dunleavy	6	30.2	.500	2.8	5.2	.548	.333	.713	1.000	10.5
3	Aaron Brooks	6	11.7	.400	1.2	2.3	.500	.313	.517	.400	5.5
4	Doug McDermott	1	6.0	.333	1.0	2.0	.500	.000	.500	1.000	5.0
5	Jimmy Butler	6	42.2	.476	2.5	6.2	.405	.515	.548	.791	24.8
6	Derrick Rose	6	36.7	.410	2.5	6.7	.375	.433	.485	.895	19.0
7	Kirk Hinrich	4	7.3	.286	0.3	0.8	.333	.250	.357		1.3
8	Tony Snell	6	16.5	.345	1.0	3.3	.300	.444	.448	1.000	4.7
9	Nikola Mirotic	5	16.4	.300	0.8	3.2	.250	.357	.367	.500	4.6
10	Pau Gasol	6	34.7	.487	0.0	0.7	.000	.514	.487	.727	16.3

Rk	Player	G	MP	FG%	3P% ▾	2P%	eFG%	FT%	PTS
1	Kyrie Irving	4	162	.435	.480	.409	.522	.808	93
2	Kevin Love	4	107	.415	.429	.400	.524	.737	57
3	Matthew Dellavedova	4	43	.273	.286	.250	.364	.500	10
4	J.R. Smith	4	107	.366	.267	.636	.463	.500	39
5	Iman Shumpert	4	116	.467	.250	.714	.533	1.000	28
6	LeBron James	4	172	.467	.200	.543	.489	.741	108
7	James Jones	4	46	.231	.182	.500	.308	1.000	10
11	Shawn Marion	1	1						0

Of players who have shot three's (though I left Marion in here to show he really hasn't played).

Bulls are shooting by a wide margin far better than Cleveland. 40% to 32 %. Only the Wizards are shooting better in these playoffs.[/QUOTE]

wait, you mean the mighty, unbeatable warriors aren't tops in 3 point shooting these playoffs?!?!?!

 

[knoxville7]

I would play hack a King for this series. I'd double team Lebron every damn time he gets the ball. I'd throw Gibson, Mirotic, Noah, and Snell on his ass and basically track him like a pack of wolves. Without Love and Smith, let the other cast of characters try and beat the remainder of the Bulls. But let Butler match up against someone else and not wear himself out trying and gaurd Lebron. Let Lebron wear himself up trying to guard Butler, not the other way around.

By the end of this series, I want to see the scowl on the guy's face wondering what the **** hit him. I want the re-birth of the Bulls ball-hawk defense, bring on the junk yard dogs!

wait, let me get this straight...you want the bulls to hound LeBron and make the others beat us, but then you state that you don't want jimmy guarding LeBron??? doesn't make a whole lot of sense brah

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

The Bulls are such a hard team to figure out. Game to game you just never know what you're going to get out of them. Not that he has been playing great, but the Bulls really need to jump on them the first two games while Smith is out He shouldn't be the difference in any of the games, but you know what he is capable of doing. I'm also hoping that whomever Mozgov is guarding goes at him aggressively. Get him into foul trouble early and often this series.

 

[knoxville7]

The Bulls are such a hard team to figure out. Game to game you just never know what you're going to get out of them. Not that he has been playing great, but the Bulls really need to jump on them the first two games while Smith is out He shouldn't be the difference in any of the games, but you know what he is capable of doing. I'm also hoping that whomever Mozgov is guarding goes at him aggressively. Get him into foul trouble early and often this series.

:dontsay:

 

[clonetrooper264]

:dontsay:

With how this team plays...you never know if they'll actually do what they're supposed to

 

[knoxville7]

With how this team plays...you never know if they'll actually do what they're supposed to

my response was more to do with the fact we have heard people say how the bulls "need to jump on the cavs in the 1st two games bc of the JR smith suspension," about a million freaking times already now. like the first two games were somehow less important if JR smith was playing :shrug:

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

my response was more to do with the fact we have heard people say how the bulls "need to jump on the cavs in the 1st two games bc of the JR smith suspension," about a million freaking times already now. like the first two games were somehow less important if JR smith was playing :shrug:

Well I was saying that with Smith out, and with Love also out - it's a golden opportunity for this team to leave Cleveland up 2-0. It took a third game to finally put the Bucks away. You are not getting that luxury with the Cavs. So maybe play more like last night and like they did in game 1. Not like the shitheads they played like in games 4 and 5.

 

[knoxville7]

Well I was saying that with Smith out, and with Love also out - it's a golden opportunity for this team to leave Cleveland up 2-0. It took a third game to finally put the Bucks away. You are not getting that luxury with the Cavs. So maybe play more like last night and like they did in game 1. Not like the shitheads they played like in games 4 and 5.

and again, this has been said/mentioned only 3.216 million times already :shrug:

and the bulls players will be up for playing Cleveland and LeBron a lil more so than playing their "redheaded stepchildren" from 90 miles north, don't ya think? kind of just normal human nature

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

and again, this has been said/mentioned only 3.216 million times already :shrug:

and the bulls players will be up for playing Cleveland and LeBron a lil more so than playing their "redheaded stepchildren" from 90 miles north, don't ya think? kind of just normal human nature

Before my post, there were only 2 posts in this thread that mentioned anything resembling what I said. 2 out of 46, or 4% if you prefer it that way. So in a thread that is used to discuss this series and make predictions, only 4% of posts prior to mine made mention of that. I think you are reading and seeing only what you want.

And as far as the Bulls being up for playing Cleveland, I think the better question to ask is why weren't they up for beating the Bucks in 4 or 5? That is my point, there is no consistency with this team in terms of intensity.

 

[knoxville7]

Before my post, there were only 2 posts in this thread that mentioned anything resembling what I said. 2 out of 46, or 4% if you prefer it that way. So in a thread that is used to discuss this series and make predictions, only 4% of posts prior to mine made mention of that. I think you are reading and seeing only what you want.

And as far as the Bulls being up for playing Cleveland, I think the better question to ask is why weren't they up for beating the Bucks in 4 or 5? That is my point, there is no consistency with this team in terms of intensity.

LOL, you must have some free time...since you do, how about you go check some of the other recent threads on here too. also, who said I was talking about just within this thread? that's you assuming things...

and again, ill mention that it is human nature to let down against opponents you feel are inferior...just like it is human nature to "get up" for opponents you feel are your equal or better than you. aren't you a teacher or something? you should understand this concept :shrug:

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

LOL, you must have some free time...since you do, how about you go check some of the other recent threads on here too. also, who said I was talking about just within this thread? that's you assuming things...

and again, ill mention that it is human nature to let down against opponents you feel are inferior...just like it is human nature to "get up" for opponents you feel are your equal or better than you. aren't you a teacher or something? you should understand this concept :shrug:

Have I posted in those other threads? Have I responded to the posts that have discussed that?

Not a lot of playoff basketball games played in 7th period Geography.

 

[knoxville7]

Have I posted in those other threads? Have I responded to the posts that have discussed that?

Not a lot of playoff basketball games played in 7th period Geography.

human nature is a concept that applies to all aspects of life...not just basketball

and I didn't expect this to drag on this long....just a simple mention that everyone has heard how we "have to take advantage" a ton of times already whether it be on this message board, on tv, radio, etc... and I think its kind of a dumb thing to state...as if these first two games somehow became more important due to the suspension of jr smith....they didn't! the first two games are just as important before it as they are today... :shrug:

 

[PolarBear]

No Kevin Love is going to severely hurt the Cavs half court offense. Bulls should be able to lock down the paint and force Lebron and Kyrie (for the most part) to be jump shooters. Need to make sure Jimmy isn't guarding Lebron the whole game. Tony Snell did a decent job on Lebron during the season and we need to utilize him to ensure Jimmy can focus on offense when we need it.

With that, the only real weakness of the Bulls that is going to severely hurt them in this series is TO's. The Bulls cannot afford to give Lebron and Kyrie fast break opportunities. Force them into playing slow, half court basketball.

If the Bulls can limit TO's, win the battle on the boards and turn Lebron especially into a jump shooter, the Bulls will win this series.

 

[Diddy1122]

Like I said before, I do not expect either of them to shoot nearly as well from 3 in this series.

The Cavs are not a good defensive team. We just faced the best defensive team in the East in the playoffs, the Bucks, and shot 40% from 3 against them. I don't think it's a leap of faith to think that open shots will continue against a weaker defense that just lost two key players.

This series completely shifted when Love went down. The suspension of Smith helps but losing Love is a huge blow to the Cavs chances. Before I would have called it a pretty even matchup. Now, the scales are completely tipped in the Bulls favor. Without Love and Smith to pull the defense out, the lanes are going to closed for Lebron and Kyrie's drives. Lebron is going to have to have a monstrous series imho for the Cavs to come out on top in this one.

 

[Axl Rose]

The Cavs are not a good defensive team. We just faced the best defensive team in the East in the playoffs, the Bucks, and shot 40% from 3 against them. I don't think it's a leap of faith to think that open shots will continue against a weaker defense that just lost two key players.

This series completely shifted when Love went down. The suspension of Smith helps but losing Love is a huge blow to the Cavs chances. Before I would have called it a pretty even matchup. Now, the scales are completely tipped in the Bulls favor. Without Love and Smith to pull the defense out, the lanes are going to closed for Lebron and Kyrie's drives. Lebron is going to have to have a monstrous series imho for the Cavs to come out on top in this one.

so thibs should be fired if he loses this one right?

 

[The Hawk]

wait, let me get this straight...you want the bulls to hound LeBron and make the others beat us, but then you state that you don't want jimmy guarding LeBron??? doesn't make a whole lot of sense brah

Sure it does. Cleveland is undermanned and Lebron is the beast. I want four guys to hound the beast in Gibson, Snell, Noah, and Mirotic. All have size and they have 24 fouls among them. I do not want Butler to match up defensively against him and wear himself out. THe four guys I mentioned all have size to go against Lebron. Let Lebron have to work his ass off against them and let him worry about how to stop Jimmy.

I want to see that guy melt at the free-throw line, maybe even collapsing in a pool of sweat. **** Lebron and **** Cleveland. Let the Cavs figure out how to stop Gasol, Butler, Rose, Dunleavy, Brooks, defensively and then beat the crap out of Lebron offensively. Slay the BEAST!