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[Shawon0Meter]

E-Jax!!!

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

Back to back, thank you EJ.:clap:

 

[beckdawg]

Fowler is probably out of their budget. I suspect they'll make him an offer though.

I don't really think so. As I mentioned else where I think it's the supposed top tier starter that will be out of their budget. Fowler is quite literally exactly what they needed which is why they went out and got him in the first place while the cubs are 5th in starter ERA without another big name. My guess is they either try to continue trade talks on guys like Ross/Carrasco/Teheran or they make another dive into the Hammel-like pitching market to replace Harren.

 

[CRM 114]

Cubs win! Way to not give up when down by 4.

Also, thank you Edwin Jackson.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

#MonteroBomb?

#calledit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[chibears55]

I don't really think so. As I mentioned else where I think it's the supposed top tier starter that will be out of their budget. Fowler is quite literally exactly what they needed which is why they went out and got him in the first place while the cubs are 5th in starter ERA without another big name. My guess is they either try to continue trade talks on guys like Ross/Carrasco/Teheran or they make another dive into the Hammel-like pitching market to replace Harren.

For next year ?

Haren will be replaced by a TOR starter like Price
Hammel and Hendricks will be their 4/5 starters ..

I wouldn't worry much about budget/payroll. .
Cubs payroll sits at 80 mil for 2016, and with having mostly kids playing everyday at low cost..
they have plenty of money to spend on price and hold onto all their main players. .

 

[Ari Bear]

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[chibears55]

Even after that 3 game losing streak, cubs are right where they were last Sunday going for 20 over .500 tomorrow. .
#LetsGo #GetItDone

 

[FrankieLyrical]

EJ is still a Cub at heart!

 

[CSF77]

E-Jax is a disaster in Wriggly.

Good he is not on the Cubs now.

I still see them gunning for Price. I can see him avg 35 mil per but if they defer 15 mil per like the Nats did. Something like 7 years avg 20 mil per then 7 years avg 15 mil per after. That would put payroll at 130 mil approx. now the CF issue would still be there but I'll bet they end up trading Castro then using that freed up payroll to find a CF solution. Even if it is resigning Fowler. I don't see Happ being rushed so a 2 year with a option is realistic.

 

[beckdawg]

For next year ?

Haren will be replaced by a TOR starter like Price
Hammel and Hendricks will be their 4/5 starters ..

I wouldn't worry much about budget/payroll. .
Cubs payroll sits at 80 mil for 2016, and with having mostly kids playing everyday at low cost..
they have plenty of money to spend on price and hold onto all their main players. .

They still haven't paid Arrieta yet and he's a FA in 2 years. That alone is going to add around $20 mil to their budget. You also have probably another $15 mil in guys like Grimm, Rondon, Cogs and others in arbitration. Money will go fast.

 

[chibears55]

They still haven't paid Arrieta yet and he's a FA in 2 years. That alone is going to add around $20 mil to their budget. You also have probably another $15 mil in guys like Grimm, Rondon, Cogs and others in arbitration. Money will go fast.

Couple things when Arrieta ready to have his deal done for 18
Budget wont be in the 120s in 3 years..
Lester will have 2 yrs left on his deal with his last yr dropping to 20 mil from 27.5..

Far as paying some of the Arb guys, they will also save 8 mil by trading Castro and 2.5 mil by dropping Ross. .

They dont need payroll to be around 120, they can up it closer to 130 if need to in 16..

Payroll as of now from 17-20

61,50,55,and 27

 

[Shawon0Meter]

Gotta love seeing the Cubs comeback wins of late. For so much of the season, if they were down 2-0 early in the game, it was ok to change the channel

 

[beckdawg]

Couple things when Arrieta ready to have his deal done for 18
Budget wont be in the 120s in 3 years..
Lester will have 2 yrs left on his deal with his last yr dropping to 20 mil from 27.5..

Far as paying some of the Arb guys, they will also save 8 mil by trading Castro and 2.5 mil by dropping Ross. .

They dont need payroll to be around 120, they can up it closer to 130 if need to in 16..

Payroll as of now from 17-20

61,50,55,and 27

It's kind of pointless to talk about payroll in 17-20 given none of that figures in arbitration nor long term deals for Arrieta and the younger players as well as not factoring in any of the minor deals they may do for bull pen pieces...etc. Either way, if we let history speak it says they wouldn't go over the top to sign Shields. They wouldn't go over the top to sign Tanaka. They didn't go over the top to sign Sanchez. The one pitcher they have signed was Lester and by most reports the Sox lowballed him rather than paying top price. So suggesting they are going to out spend other teams seems unrealistic to me especially when you consider the players they targeted in trade talks.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Gotta love seeing the Cubs comeback wins of late. For so much of the season, if they were down 2-0 early in the game, it was ok to change the channel

The hitting has improved greatly post-it Break.

 

[chibears55]

It's kind of pointless to talk about payroll in 17-20 given none of that figures in arbitration nor long term deals for Arrieta and the younger players as well as not factoring in any of the minor deals they may do for bull pen pieces...etc. Either way, if we let history speak it says they wouldn't go over the top to sign Shields. They wouldn't go over the top to sign Tanaka. They didn't go over the top to sign Sanchez. The one pitcher they have signed was Lester and by most reports the Sox lowballed him rather than paying top price. So suggesting they are going to out spend other teams seems unrealistic to me especially when you consider the players they targeted in trade talks.

They didn't go over the top for those guys cause they weren't ready team wise to add a high priced starter who would of been closer to end of deal when team was ready to compete.

Signing 34 YO Shields for 4 yrs at 21 + per would of been plain stupid and we should be glad they passed..

My point on bringing up 17-20 payroll was to show they have plenty of money to spend cause they have little tied up and that is the time when the budget/payroll will be increasing significantly with advertisement deals coming in and i believe new tv deal will start..

So, adding someone at TOR in 25-30 per range will not handcuff the Cubs..

This team is set up perfect now to put money into the rotation while their position players are young and cheap now..

What they hopefully will be doing is finding young pitching talent for future when it comes time to pay the position players.

 

[CSF77]

They could add Price. Arrieta is going into Arb2 next year and should get 10 mil. I factored that amount. I still came up at 107-110 mil payroll. If they subtract Castro for prospects (no cost to payroll) then re sign Fowler for 2 they would still be around 110 mil.

They should be able to add 20 mil of payroll at that point.

I believe they need another LH starter. Kaz is another one that could be looked at. Or they trade up to get a MLB ready one. NYM Castro for Niese make plenty of sense and could be a match up.

 

[TL1961]

I don't really think so. As I mentioned else where I think it's the supposed top tier starter that will be out of their budget. Fowler is quite literally exactly what they needed which is why they went out and got him in the first place while the cubs are 5th in starter ERA without another big name. My guess is they either try to continue trade talks on guys like Ross/Carrasco/Teheran or they make another dive into the Hammel-like pitching market to replace Harren.

Theo and Jed know they have a team that can contend for the playoffs. But they have a team whose top end pitching will make it hard to to win in the playoffs without one more really strong starter. No knock on the guys they have, but Hammel right now looks like anything but the strong starter he was for the first half. He hasn't been right since the hammy issue. And even with him healthy, they know they need a TOR to be a real threat. Get that, and it wont matter hwo is in CF.

I'd prefer they find a strong glove man in CF, as our OF D needs a lot of help. Spend the money on pitching - and not a 4th or 5th guy.

 

[TL1961]

These Cubs love 4-game series.

Tomorrow they will be trying for their fourth sweep of a 4 game series this season, and third since the last week of July.

 

[chibears55]

Things are getting interesting in Central with Cardinals losing again. .

Pirates 3 back and Cubs just 6 back in lost column..