IST: Chicago Cubs (5-3) hosting San Diego Padres (6-4)

[justaChifan]

The ball is right there.

Right, a grounds-keeper can't retrieve it? What is it evidence?

 

[chibears55]

Right, a grounds-keeper can't retrieve it? What is it evidence?

Yea..probably so they can go over it with the rule committee lol

 

[SilenceS]

Alcantara going to need some time in AAA soon. Three half swings to strikeout just not. He is not recognizing any off speed stuff.

 

[chibears55]

Sucks to lose this game. .
Shoulve been another great start by a starter and probably a shutout..

 

[JZsportsfan]

Awful

 

[SilenceS]

Padres win. Soler went after ball 4

 

[FrankieLyrical]

Alcantara going to need some time in AAA soon. Three half swings to strikeout just not. He is not recognizing any off speed stuff.

Are you trying to put Mendy in a corner?

 

[JZsportsfan]

This loss hurts big time

 

[JZsportsfan]

Padres win. Soler went after ball 4

The 2nd strike looked very similar to the so called "ball" against Will Myers in the 7th

 

[SilenceS]

Are you trying to put Mendy in a corner?

He put himself in the corner. He has been worked by offspeed pitches especially the changeup.

 

[Mr. Cub]

That fuckbag of an ump cost us this game. Dumb *****.

 

[chibears55]

He put himself in the corner. He has been worked by offspeed pitches especially the changeup.

Alcantara has been struggling since after his first month up last july 18 games when he hit .253..

Not sure of why all the love for the kid, he hasnt done anything besides hit a few HRs..


Aug : 30 G 118 AB .188 AVG .238 OBP
Sept: 22 G. 85 AB .176 AVG .195 OBP

2015

8 G. 22AB .091 AVG .259 OBP 5 walks 28 PA

 

[Parade_Rain]

0 for 4 with 3 k's lol Call me Nostradamus bitches!

I dub thee Nostradamus Bitches.

 

[MassHavoc]

Well shit. I didn't realize till just this second when looking at the box score that a pitcher who puts runners on base is still accountable for them even after two pitching changes. I did know know that. I mean I get the basic understanding. It's just interesting to see that the 3 run homer that Schlitter gave up only accounted for 1 ER and the other two went back to Hammel even though Rosscup pitched in between them, and the L still went to Schlitter. I'll be damned.

 

[Parade_Rain]

That fuckbag of an ump cost us this game. Dumb *****.

Yes and no. You still have to execute the next pitch.

 

[JZsportsfan]

Alcantara needs to go back down

He is a nice utility guy, but his bat provides little upside right now

 

[MassHavoc]

Looks like Maddon was ejected too.. wasn't there a pool on here somewhere for home many times that would happen this year?

 

[JZsportsfan]

Yes and no. You still have to execute the next pitch.

Agreed. Definitely has to mess with your mind set as a pitcher, but I agree. Cubs still had times to execute and win this game. Soler/Rizzo on 2nd/3rd with 1 out and Bryant/Coughlin can't bring them home. 2 HR still given up

I'm still blaming the ump though, that was ridiculous.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Agreed. Definitely has to mess with your mind set as a pitcher, but I agree. Cubs still had times to execute and win this game. Soler/Rizzo on 2nd/3rd with 1 out and Bryant/Coughlin can't bring them home. 2 HR still given up

I'm still blaming the ump though, that was ridiculous.

He will be told quietly by the league that he messed up. They are continually graded, which is why the zone is more consistent today than even a decade ago.

 

[beckdawg]

Alcantara has been struggling since after his first month up last july 18 games when he hit .253..

Not sure of why all the love for the kid, he hasnt done anything besides hit a few HRs..


Aug : 30 G 118 AB .188 AVG .238 OBP
Sept: 22 G. 85 AB .176 AVG .195 OBP

2015

8 G. 22AB .091 AVG .259 OBP 5 walks 28 PA

I still view what Alcantara's done to start this season as progress. He has a 17.2% walk rate through 29 PAs. Last season he had a 5.7% walk rate through 300 PAs. That's a pretty significant increase. Obviously, that's going to come down some but as I've said before 10-11% isn't out of the question. His K rate is also down 2.4% vs last year. I mean look clearly Alcantara has to hit better. Even as biased as I am towards Alcantara will admit that. But I will point out he's got a .143 BABIP. Last season his BABIP was .266 and he was consistently in the .320+ range in the minors. If you increase his BABIP 100 points to .243 which would still be low he'd be hitting .187/.350 right now. If you assume his walk rate comes down to around 11% that would be something like .187/.290 right now. If you then project his .266 BABIP you're talking about .210/.313 which at 2B is pretty good in terms of OBP.

Keep in mind that's not an outrageous number to throw out. The only thing different from last season is his walk rate being improved. If he improves his hitting any his value starts to go up dramatically. Also, let's not gloss over the fact that as a defender the guy is pretty nice at 2B. I would also mention that even with his poor hitting we have seen what Alcantara's wheels can do by turning a walk into a SB and then a single to the OF scores him.