IST:Cubs@Cards

[anotheridiot]

The times Contreras has played in the outfield this year have been for Darvish's starts. I figure a day after an off-day with Darvish starting would qualify for this situation.

Sorry for watching the Cubs this year. My bad. Complaining just to complain and so forth.

contrares has played a total of 10.1 innings in right field, one late game nobody left Maddon specialty after he put Caratini at third and he messed up on a double play and one start he played 8.2 innings.
Last year he played some left.

This was enough of a look for people to want him out there every day he did not catch, when all the cubs are trying to do is to not burn him out like they did last year.

 

[Rory Sparrow]

contrares has played a total of 10.1 innings in right field, one late game nobody left Maddon specialty after he put Caratini at third and he messed up on a double play and one start he played 8.2 innings.
Last year he played some left.

This was enough of a look for people to want him out there every day he did not catch, when all the cubs are trying to do is to not burn him out like they did last year.

Thought they could have used his bat since they lost 2-1. I thought off-day/Darvish start would be the time to use Contrares in the OF, as Maddon has done on occasion. I thought the off day would have negated the burn out factor.

Again, I apologize for trying to use logic when discussing Cubs baseball.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

contrares has played a total of 10.1 innings in right field, one late game nobody left Maddon specialty after he put Caratini at third and he messed up on a double play and one start he played 8.2 innings.
Last year he played some left.

This was enough of a look for people to want him out there every day he did not catch, when all the cubs are trying to do is to not burn him out like they did last year.

He should be out there everyday. He’s a bad defensive catcher but they need his bat in the lineup. Defense is more important behind the plate than in left field and he would undoubtedly be better in left than catching

 

[DanTown]

I have a feeling that if Castellino rakes in this tour that fans will call for a Schwarber trade and to give Nicholas a contract for LF.

They should call for that anyway. I think he's far more able to play against both righties and lefties and I think he'll be a better bat because he was a very valuable hitter earlier in his career when he was more one of the guys than he has been this year as the only threat on a terrible team.

 

[CSF77]

They should call for that anyway. I think he's far more able to play against both righties and lefties and I think he'll be a better bat because he was a very valuable hitter earlier in his career when he was more one of the guys than he has been this year as the only threat on a terrible team.

As long as they get a real CF for 2020. Having a dead bat that you are forced to sacrifice the OF over is stupid.

Say they trade Schwarber and get a CF in return that is fast.

Now I might be alone in this

(AP) — The Kansas City Royals and speedy outfielder Billy Hamilton finalized a $5.25 million contract Tuesday that includes up to $1 million in performance bonuses and a mutual option for 2020.Dec 10, 2018

Say they trade Schwarber for Billy's opt. That gives a plus range/glove in CF. Then bat him 9 to lessen his PA and OBA issues.

Then front load the line up. Just let Billy play Scrappy ball. Bunt and chops over the pulled in IF. That way when he does get on it causes havock with the core coming up.

 

[DanTown]

As long as they get a real CF for 2020. Having a dead bat that you are forced to sacrifice the OF over is stupid.

Say they trade Schwarber and get a CF in return that is fast.

Now I might be alone in this

(AP) — The Kansas City Royals and speedy outfielder Billy Hamilton finalized a $5.25 million contract Tuesday that includes up to $1 million in performance bonuses and a mutual option for 2020.Dec 10, 2018

Say they trade Schwarber for Billy's opt. That gives a plus range/glove in CF. Then bat him 9 to lessen his PA and OBA issues.

Then front load the line up. Just let Billy play Scrappy ball. Bunt and chops over the pulled in IF. That way when he does get on it causes havock with the core coming up.

What the **** is your fascination with Billy Hamilton? You realize Almora having the worst year of his career is his career and yet has the same OBP as Hamilton with another .150 or so points in slugging? I'd rather roll the dice that Schwarber can be convinced to become a doubles with occasional power hitter that hits closer to .280 than roll any dice on Hamilton because he's got one year of control and he's going to age terribly.

 

[anotheridiot]

Thought they could have used his bat since they lost 2-1. I thought off-day/Darvish start would be the time to use Contrares in the OF, as Maddon has done on occasion. I thought the off day would have negated the burn out factor.

Again, I apologize for trying to use logic when discussing Cubs baseball.

Logic?
Put a catcher in right field and just expect him to make every play and not cost more runs? He made a great throw then did not catch a pop up. Even Bryant has trouble with the sun in right field. The logic is Heyward is a great right fielder. Maybe the best in the game. It is not being too logical by putting Heyward in a worse position, or a catcher in right field just because he played 10 innings there and our pitchers were having trouble throwing to him.

I dont understand it. Schwarber sucks at catcher, now Contrares, the two year all star sucks at catching. Why? Because he cant steal strikes? Pitchers have to be a ball off the zone to steal strikes. He cant throw now? All the relievers are this bad because of Contrares?

Yeah, let me know when you start using logic.

Most men grow up wanting to be baseball playerss. This place is full of guys that want to wear suits, be GM's and quote anal-itics like its the bible.

 

[anotheridiot]

Kemp was active that game. Mald's spot was his. Underwood was demoted for Phelps. Garcia has been demoted for Castellanos. ODLC was DFA to open a 40 man for him.

The next decision is on Weilk. Will he get a roster spot or not. I personally think he shouldn't. That needle is not moving enough on a 6+ ERA arm.

Chatwood is still technically the 5th starter. Hamels is not ready yet in his rehab. So I'm guessing he would pick up a start on the next time. Aug 12 is their next off date. So Aug should be pretty much filled up in games. Off days 12/19/26th.

yes. They passed Chatwood this time around so it will be Chatwood. I guess Hamels will get some simulated games, he did not do well in iowa. Maybe the pain is still that bad. Those inner muscles take long to heal.

AS far as another post, I expect Castellanos to be out there today, hell. Maldonado got to catch his first game and it was a day game after he just played a night game.

I dont know about Kemp, but glad about the Garcia news. I guess we see if its Schwarber or Happ that sit today, I would think it would be Schwarber. But Happ got a game winning hit so that is usually a time that Joe puts a young one on the bench. The question really ends up being will they give Zobrist 2B again come playoff time or stick him in the outfield.

The hate going on here for Contrares, I think its time to put Schwarber back there so we can really give them something to complain about.

 

[CSF77]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1156912521380532224

 

[CSF77]

yes. They passed Chatwood this time around so it will be Chatwood. I guess Hamels will get some simulated games, he did not do well in iowa. Maybe the pain is still that bad. Those inner muscles take long to heal.

AS far as another post, I expect Castellanos to be out there today, hell. Maldonado got to catch his first game and it was a day game after he just played a night game.

I dont know about Kemp, but glad about the Garcia news. I guess we see if its Schwarber or Happ that sit today, I would think it would be Schwarber. But Happ got a game winning hit so that is usually a time that Joe puts a young one on the bench. The question really ends up being will they give Zobrist 2B again come playoff time or stick him in the outfield.

The hate going on here for Contrares, I think its time to put Schwarber back there so we can really give them something to complain about.

I haven't seen anything on Cole. He pitched 3 innings on Sunday. If I had to guess Chatwood would piggy back him on the 3rd.

Today's line up has not been released yet.

 

[DanTown]

So obviously you get Q tomorrow but the question is does Cole make it back for Saturday. If it's no, my assumption he gets a rehab start in Iowa Friday for another five or so innings to get the arm up to around 80 pitches (threw 59 over 3 innings last time out). You can bring Mills up for Brach's spot since he's getting cut when Hamels comes back anyway most likely and then use Mills as the long guy until Wednesday and then when you activate Hamels, move Chatwood back to the long and send Mills back.

Fri - Q
Sat - Chatwood
Sun - Darvish
Mon - Lester
Tue - Hendricks
Wed - Hamels

 

[CSF77]

CHC Lineup
STL Lineup

1. J Heyward (L) CF
2. N Castellanos (R) RF
3. K Bryant (R) 3B
4. A Rizzo (L) 1B
5. J Báez (R) SS
6. W Contreras (R) C
7. K Schwarber (L) LF
8. T Kemp (L) 2B
9. J Lester (L) P

1. D Fowler (S) CF
2. J Martínez (R) RF
3. P Goldschmidt (R) 1B
4. T O'Neill (R) LF
5. P DeJong (R) SS
6. Y Muñoz (R) 3B
7. M Wieters (S) C
8. K Wong (L) 2B
9. J Flaherty (R) P

 

[CSF77]

Joe wants to try on some new duds.

 

[CSF77]

So obviously you get Q tomorrow but the question is does Cole make it back for Saturday. If it's no, my assumption he gets a rehab start in Iowa Friday for another five or so innings to get the arm up to around 80 pitches (threw 59 over 3 innings last time out). You can bring Mills up for Brach's spot since he's getting cut when Hamels comes back anyway most likely and then use Mills as the long guy until Wednesday and then when you activate Hamels, move Chatwood back to the long and send Mills back.

Fri - Q
Sat - Chatwood
Sun - Darvish
Mon - Lester
Tue - Hendricks
Wed - Hamels

I would status quo for now. If Cole can pitch then demote Wick. He has options going on.

Brach is a one way situation and if Cole goes out on the DL again then they just made a gaff.

Now if Cole goes 4 and Chatwood also goes 4 then you can think of bring up Mills as a 2 inning arm and ass can Brach. Or if Cole gets into the 6th then they can have Chatwood go back

Now IMO they should have Chatwood doing spot starts. They are on a 14. Then they have 2 7 day strings. Getting a extra off date in this string makes sense. It would be tempting to use Cole vs Gio and also bring up Mills as his piggyback. Demote Wick and Happ. Then use Chatwood in the easiest game in the next series to give the staff a extra day.

After that play it by ear and move up and down via AAA as needed.

 

[Bigfoot]

I'm actually intrigued by this line up for tonight.

 

[anotheridiot]

So obviously you get Q tomorrow but the question is does Cole make it back for Saturday. If it's no, my assumption he gets a rehab start in Iowa Friday for another five or so innings to get the arm up to around 80 pitches (threw 59 over 3 innings last time out). You can bring Mills up for Brach's spot since he's getting cut when Hamels comes back anyway most likely and then use Mills as the long guy until Wednesday and then when you activate Hamels, move Chatwood back to the long and send Mills back.

Fri - Q
Sat - Chatwood
Sun - Darvish
Mon - Lester
Tue - Hendricks
Wed - Hamels

He only threw 35 pitches at that Iowa start and had little command. I thought he was gonna get another, but the report was that he expected to be activated August 2 or 3 before that poor performance.

 

[TL1961]

As long as they get a real CF for 2020. Having a dead bat that you are forced to sacrifice the OF over is stupid.

Say they trade Schwarber and get a CF in return that is fast.

Now I might be alone in this

(AP) — The Kansas City Royals and speedy outfielder Billy Hamilton finalized a $5.25 million contract Tuesday that includes up to $1 million in performance bonuses and a mutual option for 2020.Dec 10, 2018

Say they trade Schwarber for Billy's opt. That gives a plus range/glove in CF. Then bat him 9 to lessen his PA and OBA issues.

Then front load the line up. Just let Billy play Scrappy ball. Bunt and chops over the pulled in IF. That way when he does get on it causes havock with the core coming up.

Let’s see if I have this right....

We complain all year about no offense. We add offense but with a poor defender. We have Almora who is great defensively but bad offensively.

So we trade Schwarber, who is the left naded version of Castellanos and we get back Hamilton who is the lesser offensive version of Almora.....and we pay more.

Why in God’s name would we want to do that?

AddHamilton yesterday for a prospect? Maybe.

But this?

No. Please just no.

 

[TL1961]

I'm actually intrigued by this line up for tonight.

Hopefully they don’t hit the gaps like last night. Could be ugly.

But it was a given Castellanos was going to play Day One, no matter that it is not a lefty.

So my “Schwarber and Castellanos should platoon” is already blown out of the water.

 

[CSF77]

I'm actually intrigued by this line up for tonight.

I think Nicholas and Kris are a pretty solid 2-3. Baez gets his protection back and both can drive in runs. We might have 3-4 guys racing to 100 RBI

 

[CSF77]

Let’s see if I have this right....

We complain all year about no offense. We add offense but with a poor defender. We have Almora who is great defensively but bad offensively.

So we trade Schwarber, who is the left naded version of Castellanos and we get back Hamilton who is the lesser offensive version of Almora.....and we pay more.

Why in God’s name would we want to do that?

AddHamilton yesterday for a prospect? Maybe.

But this?

No. Please just no.

I get that. But it was more of focusing on his speed and D.

If Almora was that fast I would feel the same. Billy covers more range which makes up for Nicholas' lackings as a OF.

But I really don't think there are many perfect CF anymore. Cain is about the best one out there. Rest have warts.