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Thought this could be an L. The universe works this way. Get em tomorrow
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Cubs bullpen fucking sucked tonight. Call up Edwards.....everything turns to shit.
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Cubs really needed more after scwarber drove in the run with bases loaded. I mean obviously strop wasn't great but you gotta get more runs there.
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Guy comes back, throws strikes, keeps the game in hand but it's his fault that Strop morphs into Marmol for a night. Real solid logic...
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Yes Theo, a ninth inning man is needed in baseball.
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That was the key inning, could've buried them there...
Gotta get tomorrow game and start another streak
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Our bullpen has been the best in the league by far for a month now. Ill take one player having one bad outing for another month. Get em tomorrow.
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I mean obviously strop wasn't great
Geez...what an understatement. I really don't remember ever seeing a "closer" totally shit the bed like Strop did tonight.
Geez...what an understatement. I really don't remember ever seeing a "closer" totally shit the bed like Strop did tonight.
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You must not watch a lot of baseball.
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The Plate Umpire blew a lot of ball/strike calls tonight for both teams. He was bad.
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reminded me of last years cubs, almost expecting to win. Javy needs to lose that luge hood when batting.
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I looked at the box score last night and my first thought was rust and under use of the closer role this year.
The 3 walks stood out to me the most. He went in giving up 2 before hand.
So I personally feel that Joe has been holding him for closing situations and there have not been enough to date. So with a lack of work this result can be expected.
The Cubs have been blowing teams out and when the game is tight they have leaned on Kintzler more early and Ryan later. Strop really needs to be taken out of the closer role and inserted more into higher pressure situations vs sitting out games.
The 3 walks stood out to me the most. He went in giving up 2 before hand.
So I personally feel that Joe has been holding him for closing situations and there have not been enough to date. So with a lack of work this result can be expected.
The Cubs have been blowing teams out and when the game is tight they have leaned on Kintzler more early and Ryan later. Strop really needs to be taken out of the closer role and inserted more into higher pressure situations vs sitting out games.
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yeah, but all Ryan had to do was throw home on the grounder he fielded and they had a shot at a double play or at least holding them to 5.
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The problem was 3 walks and no outs. What happened after is on that guy.
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Still does not excuse fundamentals. Blaming strop who was laughing in the dugout after he was pulled is the hippie ball I cannot stand. You get the force out at home period when the ball is hit back to the damn pitcher, or any charging infielder. Now we see why this Ryan was floating out there. There is no excuse for freezing in that situation, even if you get one out, you are still only one down. Does that really need to be told to major league players?
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It wasn't a force out at home assuming you're talking about the Ryan play. It was 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. Now sure they had the guy on third dead to rights and should have just taken the one out. But that doesn't entirely get them out of the jam because you would have likely ended up with first and third with two out and a 5-4 game.
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You tell 'em Johnny Hardass.
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You do know or probably dont, that ball hit to Ryan was with runners on 2nd and 3rd, there was no force out..
Not that he shouldn't have gone home but just saying it wasn't a force play
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Strop does his job and throws strikes then Ryan wouldn't be in that situation. Strop lost all command and Joe didn't pull the plug fast enough.
It is really naive to blame Ryan in that situation. He came in with no room for error.
There is not much else to say about it honestly. That loss was on Strop for letting it get out of hand. I'm pretty sure that he would agree.
You always take the blame for your short comings. And you thank others for getting you out of them. Blaming others for not pulling you out of the hole is pretty shitty.
It is really naive to blame Ryan in that situation. He came in with no room for error.
There is not much else to say about it honestly. That loss was on Strop for letting it get out of hand. I'm pretty sure that he would agree.
You always take the blame for your short comings. And you thank others for getting you out of them. Blaming others for not pulling you out of the hole is pretty shitty.
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Cubs needed to score more runs with bases loaded and no outs. That was a bad ending to that inning. Strop should have been pulled after walking 2 batters. But even then, the 6th run is on Ryan. That was a boneheaded play. You get the lead runner in that spot. That was not a spot to watch the runner go hone and throw to 1 for the sure out. It needed to stay a 1 run game. He didn’t do that. It’s a team sport. Plenty of blame to go around.