IST: Cubs vs Nationals

[TL1961]

I think Baez and Contreras have great defensive skills.

I look forward to them maturing and cutting down the throwing errors/miscues due to overthrowing.

I can live with growing pains, but looking forward to fewer.

 

[TL1961]

Jon Jay keeps hitting....

Who would of thunk it,that he'd be the only .300 hitter on team and lead everyone else by 25 points..

In fact who had Jay Contreras and Almora being 3 of top 4 Avg. hitter ?


* Now comes all the OPS OBP SLG etc etc etc responses
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He's on pace for 25 RBI, too, while we're citing old stats.

Empty BA.

 

[Globetrotter]

These guys and the walks are getting ridiculous.

 

[chibears55]

He's on pace for 25 RBI, too, while we're citing old stats.

Empty BA.

Always gotta be one.... [emoji19]

Well let see, he has 21 RBI

He plays off bench and has 45 to 90 less PA then these regulars thst are supposed to be driving in runs ..

Jay 252 PA 21 RBI

Baez 297 PA 45 RBI
Russell 348 PA 36 RBI
Schwarber 339 PA 36 RBI
Heyward 309 PA 39 RBI
Zobrist 316 PA 32 RBI

I would say he hanging right in there with these bad boys....

How about we try runs scored, since you brought up RBIs ..

Remember now 45 to 90 less PA then these guys...

Jay 35 RS

Baez 43 RS
Russell 46 RS
Schwarber 42 RS
Heyward 36 RS
Zobrist 34 RS

So, I think you lose that argument as Jay runs production pace is as good or better then 5 regulars with 45 - 90 more PA then him.....


Empty come back [emoji57]

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[CSF77]

Ok, here another one since no one cared for this one..[emoji3]


Maddon 2 favorites Schwarber and Zobrist...
Both continues to play as they are now

Cubs make playoff...

If he goes with Baez and Russell up the middle for defense...

Who plays LF?
Schwarber or Zobrist

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I'm thinking Schwarber get relegated to PH/DH myself. He would really have to turn it up over the last 2 months to change that.

LF: honestly it should depend on the opposing starter. But in general I would say Happ/Schwarber/Zobrist are in the conversation. If Alva performs better we may see this combo instead.

Still early but Joe changes up in the play offs. Right now it is a marathon. So he will keep guys rested.

That point it becomes a sprint and the slow ones take pine.

 

[Diehardfan]

He's on pace for 25 RBI, too, while we're citing old stats.

Empty BA.

To be honest, I never paid much attention to him before he came here. For one thing he doesn't play everyday and when he does his spot in the order is not exactly conducive to driving in a lot of runs. What he's shown me is anything but being empty...he's actually pretty clutch.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=jayjo02&year=2017&t=b#clutc::none

 

[CSF77]

To be honest, I never paid much attention to him before he came here. For one thing he doesn't play everyday and when he does his spot in the order is not exactly conducive to driving in a lot of runs. What he's shown me is anything but being empty...he's actually pretty clutch.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=jayjo02&year=2017&t=b#clutc::none

He has 216 AB's. Which is about a 1/3 of what a lead off gets. If you expanded his AB's to 600 he would have: 195 hits. 102 RS. 78 BB

Honestly he is starter quality and I'm believing that it has more to do with him being a rental and not a part of the long term that he is not every day vs anything that he has lacked in.

Reality is: Schwarber back from injury. Almora not battle tested. Jay emergency. Jay out performed both... Now he is seeing more action with the games mattering more.

 

[SilenceS]

Jon jay is a starter on. Bad team. Cubs aren't a bad team. He excels in situations which is what madden is doing. The game has changed a little since the 90's


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[CSF77]

Jon jay is a starter on. Bad team. Cubs aren't a bad team. He excels in situations which is what madden is doing. The game has changed a little since the 90's


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Not that much. For the most part the 2 hitter has become the team's best hitter vs a bunt guy. #1 is still more about OBA with speed as a added bonus.

 

[ijustposthere]

He has 216 AB's. Which is about a 1/3 of what a lead off gets. If you expanded his AB's to 600 he would have: 195 hits. 102 RS. 78 BB

But he's done most of that damage at the bottom of the order. Jon Jay fills his role perfectly.

 

[CSF77]

But he's done most of that damage at the bottom of the order. Jon Jay fills his role perfectly.

Hitting #1 Rizzo was the best lead off. .306/.379/.694

Zo and Jay were hovering around .240 Zo has the edge at .325 to .315 OBA.

Now we all joked about Rizzo leading off but he was honestly a all star level lead off with that production.

Hitting 3rd .250/.391/.477

Now it could just be a hot streak that was set off by the novelty of it all or the fact Bryant was hitting behind him.

But on that thought. If they wanted to roll with the 'joke' I believe Bryant suffered with Rizzo not behind him. So they would have to find a impact bat to fit between Bryant and Contreras in the 3 hole. Poor man thinking would be Zo or Happ playing 2B. or Schwarber in LF if he starts to hit again.

On Schwarber:
Apr: .204/.333/.344
May: .120/.232/.337
Jun: .196/.327/.522
Jul: .250/.333/.607
Aug: .286/.375/.357

So looking at the data he has swung upwards after his demote. This month there is really not the data to really make much of his SLG. A extra base or 2 really changes that. But in general I'm looking at the BA and each month it has jumped .050 from a low point in May. So I'm seeing a typical Sophomore slump going on.

So in view of this he really might start to turn it on over the last 2 months.

A for fun line up:

Rizzo 1B
Bryant RF
Schwarber LF
Contreras 3B
Avila C
Russell SS
Heyward CF
Baez 2B

A more realistic line up for the play offs:

Zo/Jay leading off
Bryant
Rizzo
Contreras (LF/C depending on Avila)
Schwarber/Avila
Russell
Heyward
Baez

Now trying to get Schwarber/Avila and Contreras every day would have to take Heyward moving to CF and Bryant moving off 3B. Or risking Contreras in RF. But I would rather push that with a DH.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Cubs hitters 3rd in MLB in hitting the last 30 days with a line of .270/.343/.490 .351 wOBA 114 wRC+ with 43 HR. They're behind only the Astros and Dodgers in that span. For the season they've moved up to 6th in hitting.

 

[PickSix]

Cubs hitters 3rd in MLB in hitting the last 30 days with a line of .270/.343/.490 .351 wOBA 114 wRC+ with 43 HR. They're behind only the Astros and Dodgers in that span. For the season they've moved up to 6th in hitting.

Just curious, do you analyze everything in life based on stats, or just baseball/sports?
You are the statistics man.....much appreciated btw.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Just curious, do you analyze everything in life based on stats, or just baseball/sports?
You are the statistics man.....much appreciated btw.

I'm in sales. Everything is about knowing the data and learning how to use it. The more I learn about statistics in baseball the more I learn about the game, especially since I've been learning about the game since I was 7 years old. Being able to keep learning at 56 is a beautiful thing.

 

[Briggs is GOAT]

Fire 1st inning from Lester. Let's hope he can keep that up.

 

[chibears55]

I get Contreras been hot....
But
1st inning 2 outs rookie RH pitcher that got roughed up his first start..

Rizzo LH power hitter, why are you bunting

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[chibears55]

Didnt care for seeing Schwarber hitting behind Contreras today..

Reason being as we saw with first AB , Contreras going to see nothing but breaking pitches and balls off the plate even with 3 balls..

Schwarber and all his strikeouts 18 in last 28 ABs will provide no protection for him..

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[Briggs is GOAT]

Nice 2 out hitting there.

 

[jooo83]

Absolutely awful. Schwarber is a DH not an outfielder.

 

[chibears55]

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Imagining Lackey reaction if he was on mound for that miscue...

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