I've decided to buy a firearm

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Nope, but got to rock the GCAL-50 many times.

Mk 19 anyone? thumpthumpthumpthumpthumpthumpthumpthump





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You mean THIS MP5SD? (They aren't illegal by the way, as long as you have the correct trust and tax stamp)



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Sweet they might be just illegal in FL. I know the silencer (I know it is a suppressor for that weapon) is illegal here (or was)




The Tommy Gun, love that thing



You are nuts Ron. What do you need a barrett for!?! I agree on the Kimber though. Reliable with friggin mud on them.



To make really big holes in shit?
 

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Supra you have fallen victim to the mass media. Suppressors and automatic weapons are NOT illegal to own or use, especially in the state of FL. You either need a signature from the chief law enforcement officer in your area on your paperwork, or you need to have a trust set up. Most people go the route of the trust, which can be set up for around $400. In that trust you can have all sorts of goodies including automatics and suppressors. Once you have the trust set up, then you order your goodies, pay the tax stamp of $200 per item and wait. Most suppressors are in the $500-$800 range, and automatics are usually thousands and thousands of dollars.



For those who are interested but do not know, we use the term suppressor instead of silencer because there is no such thing as silencing a gun. Suppressors limit the sound and recoil, but they do not eliminate it. Hollywood has done a great job of scaring people into thinking you can go around in stealth mode and shoot people all day with a suppressor on your weapon.





As a sidenote about that MP5SD: The suppressor and gun have the same serial numbers. The suppressor is an integral part of the weapon, not just an add-on. I tried to fire it full-auto without the suppressor and could only get one round to fire. Without the suppressor, there wasn't enough back pressure to cycle another round.
 

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Supra you have fallen victim to the mass media. Suppressors and automatic weapons are NOT illegal to own or use, especially in the state of FL. You either need a signature from the chief law enforcement officer in your area on your paperwork, or you need to have a trust set up. Most people go the route of the trust, which can be set up for around $400. In that trust you can have all sorts of goodies including automatics and suppressors. Once you have the trust set up, then you order your goodies, pay the tax stamp of $200 per item and wait. Most suppressors are in the $500-$800 range, and automatics are usually thousands and thousands of dollars.



For those who are interested but do not know, we use the term suppressor instead of silencer because there is no such thing as silencing a gun. Suppressors limit the sound and recoil, but they do not eliminate it. Hollywood has done a great job of scaring people into thinking you can go around in stealth mode and shoot people all day with a suppressor on your weapon.





As a sidenote about that MP5SD: The suppressor and gun have the same serial numbers. The suppressor is an integral part of the weapon, not just an add-on. I tried to fire it full-auto without the suppressor and could only get one round to fire. Without the suppressor, there wasn't enough back pressure to cycle another round.



I thought there was a distinction between a silencer and suppressor. I thought a silencer lowered the sound while a suppressor lowered sound and flash.



Also I thought on the MP5SD that the suppressor was part of the barrel on that particular model of the MP5. Which was one of the reasons it was so quiet
 

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How about one made of ice?



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A shotgun would serve my needs best (home defense and dispatching varmints in the yard) but I've wanted a M1 Garand for the last 7 years or so (thank you Call of Duty).



There is a local 4H shooting club in the area that participates in the CMP (citizens markmanship program). Been thinking about joining and taking the kids for gun safety lessons/shooting at the range. It would also give me access to surplus military rifles like the aforementioned M1 Garand.
 

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A shotgun would serve my needs best (home defense and dispatching varmints in the yard) but I've wanted a M1 Garand for the last 7 years or so (thank you Call of Duty).



There is a local 4H shooting club in the area that participates in the CMP (citizens markmanship program). Been thinking about joining and taking the kids for gun safety lessons/shooting at the range. It would also give me access to surplus military rifles like the aforementioned M1 Garand.

My dad used the M1 in basic training at Fort Knox in about '61. He was in the 18th ABN Corps but didn't go to 'Nam. If he had to use an M1 in the jungle I probably wouldn't be here. They helped pave the way for the M-16 though. More rounds, less weight, similar effective distance, etc.



I have held one once, they are really heavy. If you really want something like that but to use for real, I would look for an M-14 or M-21.
 

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I thought there was a distinction between a silencer and suppressor. I thought a silencer lowered the sound while a suppressor lowered sound and flash.

Jax is absolutely right. A "silencer" suppresses recoil, sound, and muzzle flash. It also limits firing rate and effective range, depending on the model.
 

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Yes, but those of us who consider ourselves cool (not me) call it a "can."



Oh, and about your question: The suppressor on the MP5SD can screw off and you can fire the weapon single shot without it......so yes, and no. It is required to make the weapon cycle, but there is still a short barrel under the hand guard.
 

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Where can you go around the chicago area to shoot?

Buffalo Pit and Range (aka Buffalo Ranges Shooting Park) near Ottawa/Starved Rock. There are some youtube videos showing parts of the range. The range is closed during the winter; otherwise, call first to make sure they're going to be open to the public on any particular day. The range rules are very strict and are enforced. You used to be able to shoot anything you had the appropriate paperwork for, including class 2; not sure if that has changed as there have been issues with the occasional projectile allegedly going over/past the berms and into adjacent Buffalo Rock State Park. There's an excellent chance you'll be standing on brass much of the day so bring appropriate footwear (and sunglasses, sunscreen, layers, windburn is a definite possibility).
 

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I thought there was a distinction between a silencer and suppressor. I thought a silencer lowered the sound while a suppressor lowered sound and flash.



Also I thought on the MP5SD that the suppressor was part of the barrel on that particular model of the MP5. Which was one of the reasons it was so quiet



Naw, "siliencer" is a Hollywood name.



And i saw you tossed in the AA12, which is the single sexiest and scariest handheld weapon I have ever seen. I would love to fire one those!



Favorite Weapons I have ever shot:



Ma Duce 4 evah!!

And the pic listed above, Mk 19.
 

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Seriously Counte the ma deuce RULES fo sho
 

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