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[justaChifan]

Again

 

[HawkWriter]

Bickell is playing some solid hockey this year...definitely trying to earn that contract. Finally using that big body frame on a more regular basis. Just like Shaw...when Bickell plays the type of game that he should, he shows up on the score sheet more.

 

[DewsSox79]

lets go *******!


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[DewsSox79]

nice win! what a pass from toews.


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[X]

18-0-3

lolwut?

 

[Franko725]

Another night, another win. That pass from Toews was ridiculous. Nice to see Seabs get the winner, he puts in alot of work and it is nice to see him get some payoff.

This shit with Q having Saad on the fourth line and Carcillo on the first has got to stop. If Carcillo isn't good enough to play in OT, he sure as hell isn't good enough to play on the first line. He is a perfect fourth line guy, and needs to be back there ASAP. They are just wasting Saad's talent having him out there on the fourth line.

The tying goal for Columbus should have never happened. Keith cannot have that poor of a clearing attempt.

One rant about the officials...how the hell was that not an instigator?!?!?!?! Yeah, the Hawks ended up with a PP after the fight, but Columbus should have been down to four defensemen for 15 minutes. Not saying that it would have made a big difference, but how many times this year have the Hawks been called for that in just that situation?

Oh well...on to Detroit. I would really like to see points 40 and 41 come in a shutout on Sunday.

 

[DMelt36]

he should be gone at the deadline


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Always believed in the philosophy that you don't trade someone unless you know exactly who is going to replace that player. So if Stalberg goes, who fills in his spot? Curious.

 

[firefan2001]

Big game on Sunday against Detroit, if we get past them the streak could reach 29 games. Games after the Detroit game are vs. Minnesota (10-7-2), vs. Colorado (8-8-3), @ Coloardo (8-8-3), vs. Edmonton (8-8-4), @ Columbus (5-12-4), @ Dallas (10-9-2), and @ Colorado.

30th game is @ Anaheim (14-3-1).....

 

[Franko725]

I almost forgot that the first goal of the game came as a direct result of Keith having yet another shot blocked by someone's shin pads. Why oh why can he not figure out a way to get the puck somewhere near the net instead of it being blocked forty feet out?

 

[Heisenberg]

I honestly didn't think the Hawks played well. The Jackets played better than the Hawks but we found a way to get the 2 pts anyway so I'll take em. Detroit is going to be real tough on Sunday. If there's a team that might spoil, it's them.

 

[Jntg4]

he should be gone at the deadline


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Why trade a guy that contributes way more than his share as a guy that has a cap hit of under a million? He's helping this team right now and isn't hurting the cap.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading him in the right deal, but trading him for the sake of trading him, no way.

 

[HawkWriter]

Always believed in the philosophy that you don't trade someone unless you know exactly who is going to replace that player. So if Stalberg goes, who fills in his spot? Curious.

I think Saad would replace him just fine on the third line.

The issue with Stalberg is I doubt he signs this offseason. Might as well get something for him now. Saad (or when Bolland comes back Shaw) could do well on the third line. Stalberg could also help with a nice return for either now or the future. Something is better than nothing.

In terms of Carcillo vs Saad on the first line...I think Carcillo is the right choice. Sure Saad is the better and more skilled player, but he didn't compliment Hossa/Toews very well at all. If you play with those two you better produce or help them produce...wasn't happening. I believe Carcillo opens things up and compliments Hossa/Toews well. That first line needs to put up numbers 5on5 and it just wasn't happening as much as it should with Saad.

 

[HawkWriter]

The tying goal for Columbus should have never happened. Keith cannot have that poor of a clearing attempt.
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Hard to blame Keith on that one. Went high and hard, just got a real bad bounce off the glass.

 

[Franko725]

I think Saad would replace him just fine on the third line.

The issue with Stalberg is I doubt he signs this offseason. Might as well get something for him now. Saad (or when Bolland comes back Shaw) could do well on the third line. Stalberg could also help with a nice return for either now or the future. Something is better than nothing.

In terms of Carcillo vs Saad on the first line...I think Carcillo is the right choice. Sure Saad is the better and more skilled player, but he didn't compliment Hossa/Toews very well at all. If you play with those two you better produce or help them produce...wasn't happening. I believe Carcillo opens things up and compliments Hossa/Toews well. That first line needs to put up numbers 5on5 and it just wasn't happening as much as it should with Saad.

The only reason to trade Stalberg is IF you get a nice return for him. If not, why not just keep him around for the versatility that he adds to the team? He can skate on all four lines effectively.

As for the Carcillo vs. Saad argument, Carcillo has no place on this team other than the fourth line. There is far too much talent around to have him stinking up one of the other lines. If Q doesn't think the first line is clicking well with Saad on it, he could easily swap Saad and Sharp. The first goal against the Blues the other night is a prime example of what Saad can bring you in terms of speed and skill that Carcillo does not bring to the table.

And for those meatballs out there that think that we need someone on the first line to stand up for Captain and Hoss, the best defense to people gooning it up is to take advantage of the PP's that come from the goonery. Or a guy like Brookbank on the back end when the top line is out there, just like he jumped into the fray on multiple occassions last night. He provides the toughness that all the meatballs loved about Scott, but with some semblance of actual defensive skill.

 

[Globetrotter]

Trap game...drrrrrrrrr

 

[ClydeLee]

Always believed in the philosophy that you don't trade someone unless you know exactly who is going to replace that player. So if Stalberg goes, who fills in his spot? Curious.

I don't think it's a move that ought to be done but the implication would be to try and get a "REAL" 2nd line center... I think the thought would then to move Shaw back over to wing

So what if Stalberg doesn't re-sign in the offseason, the point of having the prospects is to deal with that loss, it's about winning the cup anyway.

 

[HawkWriter]

The only reason to trade Stalberg is IF you get a nice return for him. If not, why not just keep him around for the versatility that he adds to the team? He can skate on all four lines effectively.

As for the Carcillo vs. Saad argument, Carcillo has no place on this team other than the fourth line. There is far too much talent around to have him stinking up one of the other lines. If Q doesn't think the first line is clicking well with Saad on it, he could easily swap Saad and Sharp. The first goal against the Blues the other night is a prime example of what Saad can bring you in terms of speed and skill that Carcillo does not bring to the table.

And for those meatballs out there that think that we need someone on the first line to stand up for Captain and Hoss, the best defense to people gooning it up is to take advantage of the PP's that come from the goonery. Or a guy like Brookbank on the back end when the top line is out there, just like he jumped into the fray on multiple occassions last night. He provides the toughness that all the meatballs loved about Scott, but with some semblance of actual defensive skill.

It isn't about protecting. It is about production. I believe that Carcillo gives that first line more production than Saad. If you take Sharp away from Saad then you hurt Kane and that second line.

 

[Jntg4]

I don't think it's a move that ought to be done but the implication would be to try and get a "REAL" 2nd line center... I think the thought would then to move Shaw back over to wing

So what if Stalberg doesn't re-sign in the offseason, the point of having the prospects is to deal with that loss, it's about winning the cup anyway.

:yep: If we were a non-competitive team I wouldn't mind trading Stalberg, but when we are on a potential deep playoff run and he's contributing to it (1.6 PS right now), I don't want to make the team any worse... and I'm not confident we have another skater right now that can immediately jump in and produce at the same level or better... and one of this team's strengths is depth, that could be partially diminished just like that.

 

[Diehardfan]

It isn't about protecting. It is about production. I believe that Carcillo gives that first line more production than Saad. If you take Sharp away from Saad then you hurt Kane and that second line.

Ive been holding off on this thinking that maybe Carcillo could get the Al Secord thing going but its getting pretty obvious that he doesnt have the skates or skills to be top 6, certainly not a top 3. What Im seeing or more like not seeing is his involvement offensively. Speed? Maybe. But more like lack of offensive awareness. He always seem to be late getting into the play...3 on 2 breakouts turning into 2 on 2. Saad always seemed to be in the middle of things. What sticks out even more than the lone assist Carcillo has is the fact that he's only taken 6 shots...that's one a game. Not enough for a top 3 winger on the best team in the league.

Apparently, I wasnt the only one noticing this as Q had the Saad back with Toews & Hoss for the last half of the 3rd period. It'll be interesting to see if they're back together tomorrow morning.

 

[HawkWriter]

Ive been holding off on this thinking that maybe Carcillo could get the Al Secord thing going but its getting pretty obvious that he doesnt have the skates or skills to be top 6, certainly not a top 3. What Im seeing or more like not seeing is his involvement offensively. Speed? Maybe. But more like lack of offensive awareness. He always seem to be late getting into the play...3 on 2 breakouts turning into 2 on 2. Saad always seemed to be in the middle of things. What sticks out even more than the lone assist Carcillo has is the fact that he's only taken 6 shots...that's one a game. Not enough for a top 3 winger on the best team in the league.

Apparently, I wasnt the only one noticing this as Q had the Saad back with Toews & Hoss for the last half of the 3rd period. It'll be interesting to see if they're back together tomorrow morning.

There is no doubt that Carcillo lacks the skill that Saad, Stalberg, and others have on this team. However, takes a lot more than skill and a lot of other factors go into it. I'm not saying he is the most skilled guy...but on this team, with the movable parts (Saad, Carcillo, Frolik probably) I believe Carcillo is the player that compliments Toews/Hossa the best. We saw Carcillo play top 6 with Toews/Kane at times last year and he put up points with them. More importantly though, he opened things up with his forechecking and net presence for those two other guys to player their game at a top level. Saad just does not compliment Hossa/Toews...when you play with those two, they better be scoring 5on5 or you better be scoring...and it just wasn't happening. I love the game Saad plays and I think the emergence of Saad helps out this team in a lot of ways and gives them several options. Have to believe that Q has put Carcillo up on that first line and dropped Saad down for a reason...I believe it comes down to production and complimenting those two players - something that wasn't happening as much as it should with Saad.