Jaeckel's Offseason Outlook

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HockeyBuzz.com - John Jaeckel - Rumors And Early Free Agent Outlook

As promised, here’s an early look at the Hawks’ offseason targets (purported, speculated and imagined).

Read carefully. I will try to make clear where I am hearing specifically about actual team interest in a player, versus players they have been interested in previously, versus my own opinions of players they might pursue and different ways they might do that.

First, as originally speculated here, and now being “confirmed” by a variety of sources, the Hawks are likely going to try to be significant players for Ryan Suter.
Leaving that aside, and taking a broader view of the entire league, there are different cap situations and free agent wishes for all 29 teams that might create some really interesting opportunities for the Hawks—whether they land Suter or not.

One UFA I am told the Hawks might look at, aside from Suter on 7/1, is Calgary winger David Moss.

Another forward target could be San Jose UFA Daniel Winnik, who I was told the Hawks had strong interest in prior to the trade deadline.

Two defensemen who the Hawks may pursue, based on trade deadline interest they had, and UFA status (assuming Suter does not pan out) could be Carolina’s Bryan Allen and Colorado’s Shane O’Brien.

Understand, a lot can happen between now and July 1 and there are many other names that might be on the team’s radar, some who might not be terribly high profile, but who, like Moss or Winnik, also fit needs the Hawks have identified.

OK, at this point, please understand, from here on out, I am basically throwing names out that could, on some level and in some situations, make sense.

The following are a few UFA names who I have not head specifically mentioned by my sources, but who might have some interest to Chicago as secondary targets this summer:

Josh Harding, G, Minnesota
Al Montoya, G, New York Islanders
Jonas Gustavsson, G, Toronto
Scott Hannan, D, Calgary
Gregory Campbell, F, Boston
Bryan Allen, D, Carolina.
Jason Garrison, D, Fla
Bryce Salvador, D. NJ
Brad Stuart, D. Detroit


Could a Sami Salo or a Mikael Samuelsson, a couple of long in the tooth veterans whose best days are clearly behind them, nonetheless still provide some power play, limited minutes value?

Again, I’m sure the naysayers have all kinds of reasons to dismiss players like these (as though anyone’s suggesting throwing a lot of money or term at either—which would be insanity). But players like these, if there’s any tread left on their tires at all, could have situational value for a year for a team needing a tweak to get over the top.

Another option that could be out there this summer is the often overlooked possibility of tendering an offer sheet. Specifically, as a fallout of the Suter and possibly Zach Parise sweepstakes (and let’s assume the Hawks aren’t winners in either), then there could be some teams like Nashville, Minnesota or Detroit, who could be vulnerable (as the Hawks were with Antti Niemi and Niklas Hjalmarsson in the summer of 2010) to someone making a run at one of their “lesser” RFAs?

Here are a few names of useful, or high potential players currently making around $1 million a year or less who will be RFAs this summer, who could be (conceivably) “under-offered” in terms of their qualifying offer and their ability/potential because of their team’s cap situation:

Darren Helm, W, Detroit
Justin Abdelkader, W, Detroit
Anders Lindback, G, Nashville
Cody Franson, D, Toronto
Alexei Emelin, D, Montreal
Mathieu Perreault, C, Washington


Any of whom could fill needs for the Hawks. Is an offer sheet likely? No. I have also heard that the Hawks might not have the draft picks to give in compensation. I’m not sure. Bear in mind though, RFA rights to players like these can become available in trade.

Trades also are always a consideration (obviously) and I would say a near likelihood for the Hawks this summer, who might be looking to reduce cap commitment prior to the draft or acquire veteran help through dealing some prospect depth.

Another rumor out there i was told this morning, though somewhat cloudy at this point as to the source, is that there could potentially be a Patrick Kane for Rick Nash deal discussed.

What I do know is creative minds start with a broad playing field. They set their sights on who they want, not who the media “insiders” say they can afford or not. And they figure it out.

To my mind, the Hawks have been way too limited in their thinking on acquiring players the last couple of years precisely because they’ve been in a very defined and perhaps defensive mindset.

The winds seem to be blowing the other direction this summer. The Hawks seem to know they need to make some moves and for the first time since 2009, they have the cap room and assets to make some things happen.

I’ll be back with more on this subject as I hear it.



JJ



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about 8 days old, but still a good read
 

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I would love for us to get a good defenseman.
 

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patrick kane for nash all day long!
I say no, cuz I want to see what Kane can do at center same line full season. Kane well develop into a really good center for us...
 

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patrick kane for nash all day long!

You are going to love hearing this from me...but I think Nash is one of the most overrated players in the NHL.

He is an amazing talent...but he has never lived up to the hype and he has never put all his tools together for a full season.

He has size, a shot, speed...really everything you can wish for in a player but the numbers don't seem to follow and while he plays for the CBJ...I would think that you would see more out of him regardless.

Toss in Kane's contract versus Nash (both length and cap hit favor Kane) and the CBJ would have to toss something else in there.

Everything I have read is that the CBJ would want a goalie in return for Nash...so would Kane/Crawford for Nash/+ (maybe Brassard but that would make it even a bigger deal) make sense? It would be interesting and Hawks better have a back up goalie plan. Just seems like there would have to be too much involved for a Kane/Nash deal to go down.
 

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You are going to love hearing this from me...but I think Nash is one of the most overrated players in the NHL.

He is an amazing talent...but he has never lived up to the hype and he has never put all his tools together for a full season.

He has size, a shot, speed...really everything you can wish for in a player but the numbers don't seem to follow and while he plays for the CBJ...I would think that you would see more out of him regardless.

Toss in Kane's contract versus Nash (both length and cap hit favor Kane) and the CBJ would have to toss something else in there.

Everything I have read is that the CBJ would want a goalie in return for Nash...so would Kane/Crawford for Nash/+ (maybe Brassard but that would make it even a bigger deal) make sense? It would be interesting and Hawks better have a back up goalie plan. Just seems like there would have to be too much involved for a Kane/Nash deal to go down.

one could argue that Nash hasn't had the linemates to live up to his hype either though
 

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Kane for Nash strikes me as a lateral move. Star winger for star winger. You're not filling any holes here. What would be interesting in that scenario is whether the teams would agree to a straight up Nash for Kane swap or if more pieces would be involved ... and which team would have to sweeten the pot to make it happen.

Oh, and it's JJ. Grain of salt, and all that.
 

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Kane for Nash strikes me as a lateral move. Star winger for star winger. You're not filling any holes here. What would be interesting in that scenario is whether the teams would agree to a straight up Nash for Kane swap or if more pieces would be involved ... and which team would have to sweeten the pot to make it happen.

Oh, and it's JJ. Grain of salt, and all that.
Agree that was my whole point.
 

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Kane for Nash strikes me as a lateral move. Star winger for star winger. You're not filling any holes here. What would be interesting in that scenario is whether the teams would agree to a straight up Nash for Kane swap or if more pieces would be involved ... and which team would have to sweeten the pot to make it happen.

Oh, and it's JJ. Grain of salt, and all that.

I actually think JJ has a pretty good head on his shoulders when it comes to his blogs. He is a bit of a pessimist at times but he usually doesn't go over the edge and his blogs have really improved since he started out at HB.

Also, he does seem to have a good source when it comes to injuries as he has been on top of injuries well before other articles/news/etc (especially Kane wrist surgery which he got ripped on by other places for posting because several other places said it was complete BS, which it was not and Toews concussion). I think JJ would be a good source for updates on Hossa personally.
 

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I actually think JJ has a pretty good head on his shoulders when it comes to his blogs. He is a bit of a pessimist at times but he usually doesn't go over the edge and his blogs have really improved since he started out at HB.

Also, he does seem to have a good source when it comes to injuries as he has been on top of injuries well before other articles/news/etc (especially Kane wrist surgery which he got ripped on by other places for posting because several other places said it was complete BS, which it was not and Toews concussion). I think JJ would be a good source for updates on Hossa personally.

His opinions I don't have an issue with.

But his sources? No chance. I don't believe a word from his "sources."

Also, JJ isn't the first to claim that "sources" indicate the Hawks are going after Suter. Al Cimaglia (from Fox Chicago) wrote the same thing a week ago.
 

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His opinions I don't have an issue with.

But his sources? No chance. I don't believe a word from his "sources."

Also, JJ isn't the first to claim that "sources" indicate the Hawks are going after Suter. Al Cimaglia (from Fox Chicago) wrote the same thing a week ago.

Al and JJ are very close with their sources. Al used to write for HB before he stepped aside and JJ took over. They actually share a lot of their sources I believe.
 

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You are going to love hearing this from me...but I think Nash is one of the most overrated players in the NHL.

He is an amazing talent...but he has never lived up to the hype and he has never put all his tools together for a full season.

He has size, a shot, speed...really everything you can wish for in a player but the numbers don't seem to follow and while he plays for the CBJ...I would think that you would see more out of him regardless.

Toss in Kane's contract versus Nash (both length and cap hit favor Kane) and the CBJ would have to toss something else in there.

Everything I have read is that the CBJ would want a goalie in return for Nash...so would Kane/Crawford for Nash/+ (maybe Brassard but that would make it even a bigger deal) make sense? It would be interesting and Hawks better have a back up goalie plan. Just seems like there would have to be too much involved for a Kane/Nash deal to go down.

Heres the thing, he has been playing in Columbus. Id like to insert him into a lineup that features Toews,Hossa,Sharp,Seabrook,Keith. What we need is a skilled physical player. Like I said before, loading up on physical players that arent really skilled is pointless.

Now lets say that you move crawford in a deal with him, which is fine with me, but we would need to go out and get a goalie. Is vokoun the guy? maybe. I prefer no trades for goalies unless it is spects and not current roster players.

30 goal scorer on a bad team. His OPS was 5.6 last year, which wasnt his best but breaking 6.0 and 7.0 years prior is damn impressive.

Now lets do the icehog scenario, sign Jokinen. That would be one hell of a balanced roster with skill and physical play.

and no tazer, I do not want to experiment anymore with Kane at center.
 

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Heres the thing, he has been playing in Columbus. Id like to insert him into a lineup that features Toews,Hossa,Sharp,Seabrook,Keith. What we need is a skilled physical player. Like I said before, loading up on physical players that arent really skilled is pointless.

Now lets say that you move crawford in a deal with him, which is fine with me, but we would need to go out and get a goalie. Is vokoun the guy? maybe. I prefer no trades for goalies unless it is spects and not current roster players.

30 goal scorer on a bad team. His OPS was 5.6 last year, which wasnt his best but breaking 6.0 and 7.0 years prior is damn impressive.

Now lets do the icehog scenario, sign Jokinen. That would be one hell of a balanced roster with skill and physical play.

and no tazer, I do not want to experiment anymore with Kane at center.
Who do you put at he center spot? Jokinen at 3mil now with our limited cap space Noway we get him.
 

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Jokinen is a nothing ... mark me down for that opinion. He's perpetually in need of a change of scenery -and never has had much of an impact at these "change of scenery" locations ... why would anyone want to touch the guy with a 10 foot pole?
 

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im also not a fan of jokinen

but there really isnt anything else in FA for centers...we might have to live with Kane
 

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im also not a fan of jokinen

but there really isnt anything else in FA for centers...we might have to live with Kane

I'm fine with "living" with Kane. We all saw how dominant a duo of Kane/Hossa was...but that then leaves a hole with Toews in a lot of ways.

If the Blackhawks go forward with Kane as the 2C they need to get a guy with some size that can play in the top 6...a Doan, Clowe, Malone, etc type of player that can play two way hockey, open up holes for the skilled players, and also contribute.

I like the Carcillo signing...as long as he is a 4th line guy. I understand he has a nice skill set and did well jumping up in the top 6 with Kane/Hossa, but I rather he play on the 4th line where he can focus on his role.
 

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I'm fine with "living" with Kane. We all saw how dominant a duo of Kane/Hossa was...but that then leaves a hole with Toews in a lot of ways.

If the Blackhawks go forward with Kane as the 2C they need to get a guy with some size that can play in the top 6...a Doan, Clowe, Malone, etc type of player that can play two way hockey, open up holes for the skilled players, and also contribute.

I like the Carcillo signing...as long as he is a 4th line guy. I understand he has a nice skill set and did well jumping up in the top 6 with Kane/Hossa, but I rather he play on the 4th line where he can focus on his role.

I agree, which is why a Doan type player would be great

Doan-Toews-Sharp
Stalberg?-Kane-Hossa

thats a solid top 6
 

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