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Assuming we're talking about Nady and Dunn, yes. Nady would just be for a year while we free up payroll to sign someone else or make a trade in 2011. Dunn would be signing ourselves up for three or four years of piss poor play at first base.

The only thing Adam Dunn is good at is hitting home runs. The last thing we need is more defensive ineptitude. Ideally, the Cubs can trade for Adrian Gonzalez and solve this conundrum. But I doubt that will happen.

Okay, so if the goal is to free up payroll, why is it that we are paying someone 3 million dollars to suck, when we can have someone do that for league minimum.

Dunn is piss poor now? He's only good at hitting homeruns? Forget about his outrageously high walk totals. Sure, Dunn wouldn't be the best option defensively. He will probably suck there. But he would be the most consistent player on the team with the bat.

So instead of signing Dunn, you want to sign Adrian Gonzalez, a guy who is going to command around 25 million on the open market. That's just a stupid business decision.
 

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Okay, so if the goal is to free up payroll, why is it that we are paying someone 3 million dollars to suck, when we can have someone do that for league minimum.

Dunn is piss poor now? He's only good at hitting homeruns? Forget about his outrageously high walk totals. Sure, Dunn wouldn't be the best option defensively. He will probably suck there. But he would be the most consistent player on the team with the bat.

So instead of signing Dunn, you want to sign Adrian Gonzalez, a guy who is going to command around 25 million on the open market. That's just a stupid business decision.

They already sold the rights to Hoff's contract to Hokkaido. How can they have him for league minimum?
 

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They already sold the rights to Hoff's contract to Hokkaido. How can they have him for league minimum?

Okay, then LaHair... it's not just that it is the Hoff. It's the idea of filling the position in house for extra extra cheap, as opposed to going out and paying someone millions to suck for us.
 

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LaHair is a AAAA player with bad defense. Nady had decent D at 1st, and would hit better than him.
 

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Okay, so if the goal is to free up payroll, why is it that we are paying someone 3 million dollars to suck, when we can have someone do that for league minimum.

Dunn is piss poor now? He's only good at hitting homeruns? Forget about his outrageously high walk totals. Sure, Dunn wouldn't be the best option defensively. He will probably suck there. But he would be the most consistent player on the team with the bat.

So instead of signing Dunn, you want to sign Adrian Gonzalez, a guy who is going to command around 25 million on the open market. That's just a stupid business decision.

Gonzalez is going to command a very high salary, but he isn't going to get $25 million a year. The point of freeing payroll isn't for the sake of freeing payroll - it's so we can afford to sign players like Adrian Gonzalez. Compared to Dunn, Gonzalez is a better hitter, strikes out less, and isn't a defensive liability.
 

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LaHair is a AAAA player with bad defense. Nady had decent D at 1st, and would hit better than him.

Can you please link me to something that says LaHair has bad defense? Everything I've read has not gone either way.

What are you basing Nady hitting better than LaHair off of? Nady was downright awful last year.
 

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Gonzalez is going to command a very high salary, but he isn't going to get $25 million a year. The point of freeing payroll isn't for the sake of freeing payroll - it's so we can afford to sign players like Adrian Gonzalez. Compared to Dunn, Gonzalez is a better hitter, strikes out less, and isn't a defensive liability.

If Ryan Howard can get 25 million, who is 2 years older than A-Gon, why can't A-Gon?

I'm not in anyway trying to say that Dunn is better than Gonzo, all I'm trying to say is that Gonzo is not going to be worth the money and that Dunn is a better buy.
 

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Can you please link me to something that says LaHair has bad defense? Everything I've read has not gone either way.

What are you basing Nady hitting better than LaHair off of? Nady was downright awful last year.

Have you ever seen him play? On Television online or in person? He's made a bad play or an error every time I've seen him play at 1B and isn't that good in the OF either.

And Nady was injured last year. You always look at players like Shields "history", so look at Nady's.
 

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Have you ever seen him play? On Television online or in person? He's made a bad play or an error every time I've seen him play at 1B and isn't that good in the OF either.

And Nady was injured last year. You always look at players like Shields "history", so look at Nady's.

Okay, well the human eye is very deceiving. I'm not going to go off of what you say, I want to see where a scout or some credible source says that.

I am looking at Nady's history. It shows nothing of him being injured last year.
 

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He wasn't fully recovered until August, I forget where I read that. He just had Tommy John's last season (late 2009) y'know. Look at his stats from before that surgery.
 

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He wasn't fully recovered until August, I forget where I read that. He just had Tommy John's last season (late 2009) y'know. Look at his stats from before that surgery.

Unless you have something to back that up with, I'm not going to believe you, because this is the first I've heard of it.

Yeah, his stats before the surgery are alright. However, this year he was done with the surgery and sucked ass. He has absolutely no power.

I'm sorry, but I do not see how Nady being on this team is good at all. He's going to cost money. If we are throwing the season, why are we spending money on a player to suck, when we can fill that from within?
 

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Unless you have something to back that up with, I'm not going to believe you, because this is the first I've heard of it.

Yeah, his stats before the surgery are alright. However, this year he was done with the surgery and sucked ass. He has absolutely no power.

I'm sorry, but I do not see how Nady being on this team is good at all. He's going to cost money. If we are throwing the season, why are we spending money on a player to suck, when we can fill that from within?

Who said we were throwing the season? Hendry says he's going to try to make 3 solid moves to get us back up there. And aren't you the one that said we could win the division in 2011 and even the World Series in 2012 or 2013?
 

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Who said we were throwing the season? Hendry says he's going to try to make 3 solid moves to get us back up there. And aren't you the one that said we could win the division in 2011 and even the World Series in 2012 or 2013?

Could... could. We could, if a bunch of things happen right. One of those things would have to be the Cubs getting Dunn, which is unlikely at this point. Nady does in no way, shape, or form make this team better. At all. In fact, he makes us worse than if we were to put Colvin there. By signing Nady, you are throwing the season.
 

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I wouldn't mind moving Colvin to 1B, he can still get some OF time too in late innings. That's when Jackson is ready though.
 

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Unless you have something to back that up with, I'm not going to believe you, because this is the first I've heard of it.

Yeah, his stats before the surgery are alright. However, this year he was done with the surgery and sucked ass. He has absolutely no power.

I'm sorry, but I do not see how Nady being on this team is good at all. He's going to cost money. If we are throwing the season, why are we spending money on a player to suck, when we can fill that from within?

ass still stinging from us not chasing dunn?
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