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That is absolutely unknown. the rosters came out the day after the trade, no?

The players vote ended Thursday night. Matheny finalized the roster friday. Castro and Shark were voted in by the players. Shark got traded. Matheny replaced him with Julio Terehan. Yet again, the players vote was giving to Matheny Thursday night. He was chosen before Shark ever was traded. But, keep going because of you fail to acknowledge anything Cubs.
 

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He is worse, you are right. And he's better at hitting more than the difference in D thus ahead of him. Try objectivity on Castro. It's nice.

And two weeks ago Castro was above Ramirez in a lot of categories. How about you act like a baseball fan and not a guy who hates a team because it isnt his team.
 

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A 0-0 game can never be finished until someone puts a run on the board. Your logic isn't sound.

Even a team full of replacement level players is going to score runs. Not many, but they will. If you have a team full of Adam Dunn's, who can hit but can't field, you're not going to end well. Likewise, if you have a team of Darwin Barney's, you're also not going to bode well. My point is that you can't go with the extremes, but if you're somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, I don't think it makes as big of a deal.

Since 2010, when Castro entered the league. Tulo has been the only SS who has been worth over 30 runs with his bat in a season, and that is this year. Zobrist(is he even a SS?) and Reyes each had a season where they were worth 29 and 28 respectively. So my example of 30 runs with the bat was poor.

If you can get 10 runs with the bat out of your SS, he's likely going to be right at the top.

On defense, Simmons has the anomaly in that last year he was worth 24 runs. The next closest has been JJ Hardy in 2012 with 12. If you're worth 10 runs with your glove at SS, you're going to be right at the top too.

A SS who is worth 10 and 10, is going to come out to be about a 5 WAR player. It's actually kind of hard to come out with a negative on defense, given the 7.5 boost for position(which I had not really included in the runs listed above, this is just the overall look).

As long as you're okay at defense at SS and have a good bat, you're going to be alright. So I guess you're right, the bat is more important.
 

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The players vote has nothing to do with having a representative in the all star game. Thats why the all star game coach chooses the rest to make sure every team has a representative. Castro was not chosen by manager. He was chosen by his peers that, yet again, was finalized on Thursday night.
 

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Must be another quiet day in the sox forum that a sox fan has to spend more time talking about a cubs player then anything white sox.
 

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The players vote ended Thursday night. Matheny finalized the roster friday. Castro and Shark were voted in by the players. Shark got traded. Matheny replaced him with Julio Terehan. Yet again, the players vote was giving to Matheny Thursday night. He was chosen before Shark ever was traded. But, keep going because of you fail to acknowledge anything Cubs.

Can you prove anything? Please, be a baseball fan for once
 

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And two weeks ago Castro was above Ramirez in a lot of categories. How about you act like a baseball fan and not a guy who hates a team because it isnt his team.

And I think Castro went on a massive slump when you praised him over Ramirez who up until his recent slump was in the conversation for AL MVP. Nice try there sparky
 

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Do us all a favor and join the "ignore brett" train... things have gotten a lot more tolerable here since I jumped on... :)
 

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And I think Castro went on a massive slump when you praised him over Ramirez who up until his recent slump was in the conversation for AL MVP. Nice try there sparky

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Can you prove anything? Please, be a baseball fan for once

National League position players who are invited to the 85th All-Star Game as a result of Player Balloting are catcher Jonathan Lucroy of the Milwaukee Brewers; first baseman Freddie Freeman of the Atlanta Braves; second baseman Dee Gordon of the Los Angeles Dodgers; shortstop Starlin Castro of the Chicago Cubs; third baseman Todd Frazier of the Cincinnati Reds; and outfielders Giancarlo Stanton of the Miami Marlins, Charlie Blackmon of the Colorado Rockies and Hunter Pence of the San Francisco Giants.

N.L. pitchers who have made the 2014 All-Star Game as a result of the Player Ballot include starters Johnny Cueto of the Reds; Adam Wainwright of the St. Louis Cardinals; Clayton Kershaw of the Dodgers; Madison Bumgarner of the Giants; and Jeff Samardzija, who was traded from the Cubs to the Athletics this weekend. Though Samardzija has been traded to an A.L. Club, he will be considered a member of the N.L. squad and will receive full All-Star honors in Minnesota, but will be inactive for the All-Star Game. Per Matheny's selection, Samardzija will be replaced by Julio Teheran of the Braves. The relievers who are All-Stars via the Player Ballot are Craig Kimbrel of the Braves; Francisco Rodriguez of the Brewers; and Aroldis Chapman of the Reds.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140706&content_id=83426280&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mlb

That tall task, it appears, has come to an end. With the players' vote in hand and fan voting having come to a close Thursday night, Matheny said Friday that his roster is all set. Now it remains a secret until results are announced Sunday evening.

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/ne...tebook_id=83075750&vkey=notebook_stl&c_id=stl

Care to go away now until you can not look stupid.
 

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Do us all a favor and join the "ignore brett" train... things have gotten a lot more tolerable here since I jumped on... :)

You've given me no reason to ignore you. Then again you've not really mae a post either outside of thankbanging ignorantly.
 

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National League position players who are invited to the 85th All-Star Game as a result of Player Balloting are catcher Jonathan Lucroy of the Milwaukee Brewers; first baseman Freddie Freeman of the Atlanta Braves; second baseman Dee Gordon of the Los Angeles Dodgers; shortstop Starlin Castro of the Chicago Cubs; third baseman Todd Frazier of the Cincinnati Reds; and outfielders Giancarlo Stanton of the Miami Marlins, Charlie Blackmon of the Colorado Rockies and Hunter Pence of the San Francisco Giants.

N.L. pitchers who have made the 2014 All-Star Game as a result of the Player Ballot include starters Johnny Cueto of the Reds; Adam Wainwright of the St. Louis Cardinals; Clayton Kershaw of the Dodgers; Madison Bumgarner of the Giants; and Jeff Samardzija, who was traded from the Cubs to the Athletics this weekend. Though Samardzija has been traded to an A.L. Club, he will be considered a member of the N.L. squad and will receive full All-Star honors in Minnesota, but will be inactive for the All-Star Game. Per Matheny's selection, Samardzija will be replaced by Julio Teheran of the Braves. The relievers who are All-Stars via the Player Ballot are Craig Kimbrel of the Braves; Francisco Rodriguez of the Brewers; and Aroldis Chapman of the Reds.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140706&content_id=83426280&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mlb

That tall task, it appears, has come to an end. With the players' vote in hand and fan voting having come to a close Thursday night, Matheny said Friday that his roster is all set. Now it remains a secret until results are announced Sunday evening.

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/ne...¬ebook_id=83075750&vkey=notebook_stl&c_id=stl

Care to go away now until you can not look stupid.

When that article was posted, Shark was traded. Nice try. Strike Two!!! ;)
 

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When that article was posted, Shark was traded. Nice try. Strike Two!!! ;)

Lol, its ok you look dumber by the post. You have been shown that Castro was voted in by his peers, but its ok. Brett from CCS says you were probably just a replacement because he just thinks it. Hey Brett, still believe the world is flat? Also, I have a bridge I want to sell you. We will talk about it later.
 

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Didn't I ask you earlier this week to show this? Stop playing with straw will ya?

proof for everyone to see your just on the cubs forum to talk trash, all they have to do is read what you've wrote in the last couple hours on this thread

seriously you really don't think we all see you for what you are ? the only difference between you and the ones that got banned is they claimed to be cubs fans trashing the team and players , we know your a sox fan.
 

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