Jerry Reinsdorf "We probably would have won the Miami series if we had a 2 guard who

[DCguy]

Some don't understand that sports is not an exact science. People are going to see things differently even though we are all watching the same thing. To attack someone because their point of view is different is just a person who doesn't respect another thoughts or opinions. Rather than respect the different viewpoint, they want to try to make you look bad for not thinking like them.

Just keep the debate strictly on topic. If you feel the need to attack a person, it's probably because you don't have too much information to correctly back your differing view, so you resort to attacks. If you can't back up your point without sarcasm or personal attacks, than agree to disagree, and move on.

 

[Lex L.]

LOL...am I the only one that notices that dude supposedly blocked me...yet mentions my damn name like its a religion? Absolutely hilarious. And Firsttimer is not my disciple. He and I have disagreed too. We are alike in that we both seek objectivity. I am not a fanboy of the Bulls, I am a Bulls fan...there is a HUGE difference.

You're a fool.

 

[houheffna]

You're a fool.

As always, the conversation is debased to idiocy the moment you show up...absolutely sad...

 

[Glide2keva]

I do have you on block, but when people quote you, I see it. That's the only time I see your idiotic wannabe ESPN analyst rantings.

 

[Glide2keva]

You're a fool.

A big one.

 

[houheffna]

The guy who quotes Skip Bayless calls someone an ESPN analyst...just a bunch of losers...

 

[houheffna]

I do have you on block, but when people quote you, I see it. That's the only time I see you idiotic wannabe ESPN analyst rantings.

But somehow you can't help but call my name out...even in conversations that have nothing to do with me...grow up.

 

[clonetrooper264]

You're a fool.

So much for keeping it civil...oh well. I tried.

 

[Lex L.]

So much for keeping it civil...oh well. I tried.

Ha. His so-called quest for unbiased truth and enlightenment is quite the euphemism. How rich. I guess you could call it a euphemism,...or you could also call it a bunch of crap.

 

[Glide2keva]

Ha. His so-called quest for unbiased truth and enlightenment is quite the euphemism. How rich. I guess you could call it a euphemism,...or you could all it a bunch of crap.

This.

 

[FirstTimer]

Technically, you're right, there's nothing about the luxury tax in that particular quote

Yep.
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But as I posted before, Reinsdorf has said before the season that he would be willing to go into the tax

Source? Because I can find nothing where Reinsdorf said he would pay into the luxury tax.

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I think the bigger joke is that you keep trying to attack me for simply trying to explain my thoughts on what he was trying to say and you will probably respond to this post and further try to attack me for trying to explain the logic that I believe you are incorrectly interpreting.

LOL at me specifically pointing out that the article mentions nothing about the LT as "attacking you".

Well I meant it in the sense, that if you disagree, he just attacks you and calls you stupid and never actually debates your points.

Let's see where I've done that recently?

You mad bruh?

Just because you follow 900 people on Twitter and use their opinions like their your own doesn't make you better than anyone else.

At least our opinions are our own.

I don't have a twitter. Nor do I "follow" anyone on it.

Any other grand theories?

 

[clonetrooper264]

Yep.
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Source? Because I can find nothing where Reinsdorf said he would pay into the luxury tax.

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LOL at me specifically pointing out that the article mentions nothing about the LT as "attacking you".

Ok here is an article that says Reinsdorf would go into the tax and it's from the middle of the season at that.

Bulls have slim chance of landing Melo - Chicago Bulls Blog - ESPN Chicago

The quote says, "Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf has come out publicly in recent years and said that he would be willing to dip into the luxury tax if it was in the best interest of the club. The people I've spoken to in the organization are convinced he's not going to back off of that claim now, especially if it meant landing a player of Anthony's caliber."

I'm sure you would agree that this means that he would go into the tax if it was in the best interest of the team (ie getting to the Finals, winning a title, etc). Extrapolate that to this offseason where it would probably be in the best interest of the team to get a SG that can at least score the ball or at least get a player that can potentially vault us past Miami somehow and you can see where I get my logic. You can continue to discount my logic if you want, but I have given you an ESPN source at least so there you go.

I don't think that you saying that there was nothing about the LT in the article is attacking me. I think that you calling me a joke for trying to explain that the whole LT part of the article comes from previous statements and articles is attacking me. Again, I don't particularly care if you agree with me or Doug, I'm just showing you the other side, no need to call me a joke for it.

 

[FirstTimer]

Ok here is an article that says Reinsdorf would go into the tax and it's from the middle of the season at that.


The quote says, "Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf has come out publicly in recent years and said that he would be willing to dip into the luxury tax if it was in the best interest of the club. The people I've spoken to in the organization are convinced he's not going to back off of that claim now, especially if it meant landing a player of Anthony's caliber."

That says nothing about this season and if Reinsdorf has said it publicly why is there no source for that comment rather than an ESPN article referencing the quote from "years before"?

Ironically enough this same writer wrote an article on June 7th that said the Bulls don't want to add another high salary player because of the uncertainty of the new CBA. Which article should we believe?

Reinsdorf saying they'd spend into the LT years ago holds little to no bearing on the present situation.

Bottom line is that Reinsdorf hasn't publicly said shit about the luxury tax spending for years and anything speculating that he will is attempted tea leaf reading based on comments from years ago and with the labor unrest all bets are off at this point.

 

[clonetrooper264]

That says nothing about this season and if Reinsdorf has said it publicly why is there no source for that comment rather than an ESPN article referencing the quote from "years before"?

Ironically enough this same writer wrote an article on June 7th that said the Bulls don't want to add another high salary player because of the uncertainty of the new CBA. Which article should we believe?

Reinsdorf saying they'd spend into the LT years ago holds little to no bearing on the present situation.

Bottom line is that Reinsdorf hasn't publicly said shit about the luxury tax spending for years and anything speculating that he will is attempted tea leaf reading based on comments from years ago and with the labor unrest all bets are off at this point.

Ok. Fair enough.

 

[nwfisch]

Yep.
Source? Because I can find nothing where Reinsdorf said he would pay into the luxury tax.

In the past, Reinsdorf has stated the team would pay the tax “if it was an intelligent expenditure,” further stating in 2004 that the Bulls would pay the tax once they had a winning team worth paying for.

Is It Time for the Bulls to Spend Serious Money? - NYTimes.com

 

[FirstTimer]

Is It Time for the Bulls to Spend Serious Money? - NYTimes.com

Again..see my above comments.....trying to apply comments Reinsdorf made in 2004 to the present day situation is and given the impressions coming out of the Bulls as recently as last week is a REALLY large reach and nothing more than an attempt at reading tea leaves. When Reinsdorf made that comment in 2004 there was no CBA strife, the Heat didn't exist like they do today, the Bulls hadn't spent idiotic money on Ben Wallace yet, hadn't refused to extend Ben Gordon for absurd money etc and weren't saddled with the contracts are now.

 

[nwfisch]

Again..see my above comments.....trying to apply comments Reinsdorf made in 2004 to the present day situation is and given the impressions coming out of the Bulls as recently as last week is a REALLY large reach and nothing more than an attempt at reading tea leaves. When Reinsdorf made that comment in 2004 there was no CBA strife, the Heat didn't exist like they do today, the Bulls hadn't spent idiotic money on Ben Wallace yet, hadn't refused to extend Ben Gordon for absurd money etc and weren't saddled with the contracts are now.

I did see your posts, but you stated

Source? Because I can find nothing where Reinsdorf said he would pay into the luxury tax.

I agree Doug was reaching in his article, but Reinsdorf did say he was willing to pay.

I gave you proof, but my proof isn't apparently good enough.

 

[FirstTimer]

I did see your posts, but you stated

And I still don't. AllI see is reporters mentioning he stated it back in 2004 with no direct quote from Reinsdorf. Not to mention Thonus doesn't even cite that comment in his article AND ignores comments and stories from the Bulls as recently as this week.

Oh yeah..and Thonus is an idiot.

Obviously the entire two guard discussion is relative and in the context of this season and this team and the present situation. Please tell me how a quote from 2004 applies.

It's like me saying the Bears will take a RB first overall this year based on comments by the GM, then citing a quote by Angelo in March of 2004. It completely lacks context and ignores changed situations in almost every aspect of the team and the league in general.

Bulls fans and reporters are so desperate they've begun necro-quoting Reinsdorf from when most of this site was in braces and in the 6th grade.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Here is a direct quote from KC Johnson's mailbag. It falls under the same category of being outdated or whatever, but it is a direct quote.

Luckily, here's what Reinsdorf said on that topic in a conversation with Bulls beat writers last July 20: "I wouldn't mind paying the tax if it's an intelligent expenditure. When you pay the tax, you have to do it for a player that's worth it."

K.C. Johnson's Bulls mailbag - Chicago Tribune

I don't know if that's good enough for you, but that seems to me like he said it.

 

[FirstTimer]

Here is a direct quote from KC Johnson's mailbag. It falls under the same category of being outdated

2004 is better than 2009...I guess....?

I'd still be interested in finding the source article since it's verbatim what Reinsdorf said in 2004 just to make sure Johnson didn't confuse a story citing that quote as a fresh quote.

Still, everything I posted above applies.