John Fox and the end of the game

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All the coaching genius'. You can always second guess a coach when a team loses. What happens when Cutler throws an interception at the end of the game? "What's Fox doing, you've got Matt Forte. Run the ball!"

The coaching is the only thing keeping this team mildly competitive. You all act like it's a given that Cutler completes a pass in that situation, or something worse doesn't happen. That's crazy. And if there isn't a stupid penalty on McPhee his strategy works and no ones talking about it. So there's a moment here or there where you question their choices. What this staff brings to the table far outweighs a play here or there. Once they start adding legit talent they will be fine. You can't expect a coach to be a magician. This team has a bunch of guys starting who are barely NFL caliber players right now. Thats the issue.

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Did you guys ever think maybe he trusted Forte to get the three yards since he's our best player on offense and Forte failed us because he has no motor to go up the middle consistently? Don't get me wrong I agree he should of thrown it..

But Forte also let us down big time. 3rd and 3 should be something a back should get done in a game deciding moment. I know you can call out the blocking, etc. but in the NFL a back needs to be able to be clutch at times too, and Forte, that's his weakness up the middle when it matters. Short yards for first down, redzone ball at the 1,2, or 3 Forte just isn't cutting it in that department. He never has.
 

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Those shotguns up the middle were working so well all game!
 

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you pay a coach 5 mil a year to win and compete for superbowls.....

but we all know where this team is at right now and we arent compteting for crap yet

but that last game you cant make excuses giving up a game like that.
 

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Did you guys ever think maybe he trusted Forte to get the three yards since he's our best player on offense and Forte failed us because he has no motor to go up the middle consistently? Don't get me wrong I agree he should of thrown it..

But Forte also let us down big time. 3rd and 3 should be something a back should get done in a game deciding moment. I know you can call out the blocking, etc. but in the NFL a back needs to be able to be clutch at times too, and Forte, that's his weakness up the middle when it matters. Short yards for first down, redzone ball at the 1,2, or 3 Forte just isn't cutting it in that department. He never has.

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There's conversations going on, but it's Fox's call. Not throwing the ball on 3rd and 3, up 4 points, with over two minutes to go, and your defense gettin blasted, is bad coaching...and that's on Fox. With that said, the defense was a let down and the offense failed to capitalize on multiple opportunities. It was a tough loss, coach is going to take some heat, as he should, and that's the nature of the beast. Everyone knew Fox wasn't a perfect coach. I like the direction of this team and I still like this staff.

Don't even bother with em man. During the IGT he was licking Fox's balls and saying he didn't mismanage the play calling or the clock. Ironically he called me football ignorant for saying these things. #WhosTheBitchNow
 

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Except that he his going to be coaching the Bears at a minimum this year and next year, even if he walks around Halas Hall every day with his balls hanging out.
No one realistically has high expectations for the team the next couple years as far as wins and losses. So, he isn't going anywhere this year and next because of them.
So in the meantime, if he and Pace can assemble good talent and get shit back on track, it's a huge step in the right direction.

Why do you think I cringe so fucking hard? If Fox doesn't have the balls to take chances during a fucking season in which no one has any expectations then he sure as shit won't be trying anything when there are expectations and talent. This mother ****** is going to turtle up hard as ****.
 

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Why do you think I cringe so fucking hard? If Fox doesn't have the balls to take chances during a fucking season in which no one has any expectations then he sure as shit won't be trying anything when there are expectations and talent. This mother ****** is going to turtle up hard as ****.

And that's why I don't stress or get to worked up over it. When the Bears get to the point where they are competing in relevant games again, and Fox keeps pulling a turtle, then I say, thanks for getting us this far, fire him and find someone else that can take the next step.

Like I said, he is here at least through next year, so I'm not gonna worry about the woulda, coulda, shoulda in regards of who the Bears should have or shouldn't have hired. I'll just hope they milk Fox for all the positive influence he has. When his positive team progression runs dry, throw him out and find someone else to take us to the next level.

Unless people are suggesting that the Bears fire Fox now, then I'm going to at least hope to get the best they can out of Fox in the time being.

I'm not defending Fox's game management last game, because it wasn't impressive. Just saying, he is here for a couple years, may as well hope they get the best out of the situation.
 

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Windy, I love pretty much all your posts. Especially all the mock offseasons, but this is nonsense. Lions with 1st and goal with right around a minute left. They are going to have absolutely no problem getting off 4 plays. You have to call timeouts to give your offense a chance if they score. Even if you call timeouts and the D shuts them down., you're still going to be fine. It's inexplicable how teams constantly screw up these end of game situations. This is common sense. Not advanced coaching.


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There's conversations going on, but it's Fox's call. Not throwing the ball on 3rd and 3, up 4 points, with over two minutes to go, and your defense gettin blasted, is bad coaching...and that's on Fox. With that said, the defense was a let down and the offense failed to capitalize on multiple opportunities. It was a tough loss, coach is going to take some heat, as he should, and that's the nature of the beast. Everyone knew Fox wasn't a perfect coach. I like the direction of this team and I still like this staff.
Why is it just on Fox and not Gase and Fangio? It's Fox's job to take the blame and spread praise as a head coach. Nfl head coaches are puppets unless they are calling plays. Their main job is to build a staff, chest bump players ie Pete Carroll, and throw a red hanky from time to time.

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Windy, I love pretty much all your posts. Especially all the mock offseasons, but this is nonsense. Lions with 1st and goal with right around a minute left. They are going to have absolutely no problem getting off 4 plays. You have to call timeouts to give your offense a chance if they score. Even if you call timeouts and the D shuts them down., you're still going to be fine. It's inexplicable how teams constantly screw up these end of game situations. This is common sense. Not advanced coaching.


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Calling time outs gives the offense a chance to draw up a play and settle down Stafford, who is terrible when pressed. Any one of his passes could have been defended had we had competent CBs. It's not like guys were wide open or he was throwing accurate passes. Everything he threw was a jump ball the wr out played the defender.

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Calling time outs gives the offense a chance to draw up a play and settle down Stafford, who is terrible when pressed. Any one of his passes could have been defended had we had competent CBs. It's not like guys were wide open or he was throwing accurate passes. Everything he threw was a jump ball the wr out played the defender.

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Your logic makes no sense here. No timeout was called and they still scored. Calling no timeouts gave us no time to mount a TD-winning comeback that we would have had if TO's were called


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Why is it just on Fox and not Gase and Fangio? It's Fox's job to take the blame and spread praise as a head coach. Nfl head coaches are puppets unless they are calling plays. Their main job is to build a staff, chest bump players ie Pete Carroll, and throw a red hanky from time to time.

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What do you mean? Fox specifically said the decision to run the ball 3 consecutive times was his. What does Fangio have to do with the offense? Fox pre-determined running the ball 3 consecutive times and decided he was going to rely on his defense to get a stop. The same defense that was getting shredded. He opted to go that route than to have Jay Cutler and the offense try to pick up 3 yards through the air or even a Jay scramble if the play broke down. We couldn't run the ball whatsoever against them. It was a terrible decision. That doesn't change my opinion of Fox and the staff though...I still like them.
 

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Sorry but these 2 statements are just cringe-worthy... He was hired to win games, period. If his in game decision making continues to undermine the teams ability to win games he'll be sent packing just like he was in Denver regardless of how amazing he is Monday thru Saturday.

If the Bears wanted some sort of Monday-Saturday team motivator guy then they should of hired him as the official "team motivator" not as the head coach. I really don't give a **** how good he is Mondays - Saturdays if his game time decision making keeps shitting the bed on Sundays. These weekday moral victories of "playing hard" and "maximizing talent" don't amount to much if the Bears are still finishing last in the division under his coaching.

Never said he didn't need to win games.

But he is not going to be perfect on game day, and from time to time his decisions will cost games, but he won games with this model in Denver and Carolina.

Some coaches win games during the week.

Mike McCarthy has the same clock management and even play calling issues, but he wins games.
Pete Carroll is not a great game day coach, but he has built a culture and is a motivator.
 

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