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The closed thread we had guys you want for the next three years figuring a tail off the second half of the deal which may or may not happen.
I think this is the list of guys everyone would want over Lester for that time period:
Sale, King Felix, Kershaw, Cueto, Price, Wainwright, Scherzer, Tanaka, Darvish, Grienke, Bumgardner, Strasburg, Hamels
Lester seems to fall into the next group that includes: Fernandez, Quintana, Harvey, Ventura, Ryu, Cain, Latos, Zimmerman, Gonzlez, Gray
And I think Lester would be in that group probably ahead of most for 2015, and in the rear by 2017. All and All it means Lester is a great pitcher.
The closed thread we had guys you want for the next three years figuring a tail off the second half of the deal which may or may not happen.
I think this is the list of guys everyone would want over Lester for that time period:
Sale, King Felix, Kershaw, Cueto, Price, Wainwright, Scherzer, Tanaka, Darvish, Grienke, Bumgardner, Strasburg, Hamels
Lester seems to fall into the next group that includes: Fernandez, Quintana, Harvey, Ventura, Ryu, Cain, Latos, Zimmerman, Gonzlez, Gray
And I think Lester would be in that group probably ahead of most for 2015, and in the rear by 2017. All and All it means Lester is a great pitcher.
So is AL Cy Young winner Corey Kluber not worthy? He's certainly better than Lester.
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Yeah, ok. Corey Kluber is freaking sick, but I shouldn't expect casual fans to be up to date with their knowledge.
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first off kluber had one year and he isnt this young stud.. id take lester over him imo due to experience but lester is getting paid ace money for what he has done not what he is expected to do.
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People said the same thing about Cliff Lee when his talent emerged. Lester is a good starting pitcher, but he's not worth $155 MM dollars. Your opinion that he's better than the reigning AL Cy Young winner is as good as mine, I guess. But it doesn't make much sense. IMO, Lester peaked two years ago, is clearly near the end of his prime, and probably worth a $125 MM contract in terms of true market value. The Cubs overpayed to get him for obvious reasons. Odds are the Cubs get two good seasons out of Lester before father time catches up with him. The days of sub 3.00 ERAs are probably over. As of right now, Kluber is the better pitcher.
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Remember when your team had something to talk about?
People said the same thing about Cliff Lee when his talent emerged. Lester is a good starting pitcher, but he's not worth $155 MM dollars. Your opinion that he's better than the reigning AL Cy Young winner is as good as mine, I guess. But it doesn't make much sense. IMO, Lester peaked two years ago, is clearly near the end of his prime, and probably worth a $125 MM contract in terms of true market value. The Cubs overpayed to get him for obvious reasons. Odds are the Cubs get two good seasons out of Lester before father time catches up with him. The days of sub 3.00 ERAs are probably over. As of right now, Kluber is the better pitcher.
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Remember when your team had something to talk about?
People said the same thing about Cliff Lee when his talent emerged. Lester is a good starting pitcher, but he's not worth $155 MM dollars. Your opinion that he's better than the reigning AL Cy Young winner is as good as mine, I guess. But it doesn't make much sense. IMO, Lester peaked two years ago, is clearly near the end of his prime, and probably worth a $125 MM contract in terms of true market value. The Cubs overpayed to get him for obvious reasons. Odds are the Cubs get two good seasons out of Lester before father time catches up with him. The days of sub 3.00 ERAs are probably over. As of right now, Kluber is the better pitcher.
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He had a great year. But, If Arrieta did not start injured and played at that level over 32 games would he be at that level also? But he is not in the conversation because he is still a unknown. But Kluber gets a cy-young and now he is up with the top of the charts? Wow almost laughable. I wouldn't put Harvey up there until he proves he is the same guy post op.
I would put Lester as a proven #2 type. For the Cubs he is a ace.