Jon Lester: Where Does He Rank Amongst MLB Starters V.3.4.1

[brett05]

People said the same thing about Cliff Lee when his talent emerged. Lester is a good starting pitcher, but he's not worth $155 MM dollars. Your opinion that he's better than the reigning AL Cy Young winner is as good as mine, I guess. But it doesn't make much sense. IMO, Lester peaked two years ago, is clearly near the end of his prime, and probably worth a $125 MM contract in terms of true market value. The Cubs overpayed to get him for obvious reasons. Odds are the Cubs get two good seasons out of Lester before father time catches up with him. The days of sub 3.00 ERAs are probably over. As of right now, Kluber is the better pitcher.


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So if someone offered you contracts aside Lester for Kluber, you would say no thanks to Lester?????

 

[Parade_Rain]

ChiSoxCity...

Winner - 2014 Worst Poster in the Baseball Forums Award

 

[TC in Mississippi]

In all seriousness let's look at a neutral situation. Salaries are equal and you're looking at one year starting right now and you need a TOR starter. Your choices are Jon Lester and Corey Kluber. A proven track record vs. one star making season. Think of it like this, subtract the names and make your choice only on raw data and remember we're talking about one season. Only a fool selects Kluber. I mean c'mon now.

Now bring in salaries, future projections, etc. you take Kluber all day, every day but that's a different argument isn't it?

 

[Shawon0Meter]

I would put Lester as a proven #2 type. For the Cubs he is a ace.

I thought everyone pretty much agreed he'd be the best pitcher on at least 15 teams, possibly 20. Sure he'd be a GREAT #2 behind the best in baseball but he's definitely a true #1. If the Cubs paid that much money for a known #2, fire everybody now.

 

[brett05]

ChiSoxCity...

Winner - 2014 Worst Poster in the Baseball Forums Award

Come on now. Not even close. You all got JJ that said Lester is awful based on one playoff game.

 

[CSF77]

I thought everyone pretty much agreed he'd be the best pitcher on at least 15 teams, possibly 20. Sure he'd be a GREAT #2 behind the best in baseball but he's definitely a true #1. If the Cubs paid that much money for a known #2, fire everybody now.

Glavine was a #2 to Maddux. Smoltz was the #3. So does that mean Glavine was not #1 quality? No but he was at his best as the #2 guy.

My opinion is they need a guy like Max as the ace with Lester as the #2 and Arrieta as the #3. That makes the Cubs a force. Right now they have a rotation that plays well in the season.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

yes. it was when aj and jenks mobbed each other when the last out of the WS was made. oh and we did talk a lot about that championship parade downtown. since than nothing much really until this offseason


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That was 10 years ago. So I guess the current answer is no. Being that all of the Sox fans are so obsessed with the Cubs.

 

[DewsSox79]

That was 10 years ago. So I guess the current answer is no. Being that all of the Sox fans are so obsessed with the Cubs.

not "obsessed with the cubs" more or less obsessed with cubs fans exaggerated expectations


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[SilenceS]

not "obsessed with the cubs" more or less obsessed with cubs fans exaggerated expectations


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Are you reading some of your posters? Pot meet Kettle.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Come on now. Not even close. You all got JJ that said Lester is awful based on one playoff game.

JJ can be entertaining some times. This one? Not so much.

 

[brett05]

JJ can be entertaining some times. This one? Not so much.

Still, JJ's posts are whoa. And there are others like that on this side of the board. Not saying there aren't any on the South Side either.

 

[brett05]

Are you reading some of your posters? Pot meet Kettle.

Are you?

 

[SilenceS]

Are you?

Yes, thats why I said what I said back. Was that not clear?

 

[brett05]

Yes, thats why I said what I said back. Was that not clear?

Not seen you taking any of the Cubs guys to task

 

[ChiSoxCity]

So much for intelligent conversation on the Cubs board. It's ALMOST a mirror image of the fucking Bears board. And who the hell decided to make Silencio a mod? Dews should man both boards until a smart and informed Cubs fan can be located (good luck w/that).


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[SilenceS]

So much for intelligent conversation on the Cubs board. It's ALMOST a mirror image of the fucking Bears board.


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If you are on the Bears board then I agree.

 

[SilenceS]

Not seen you taking any of the Cubs guys to task

They are on the Cubs board. Also, I didnt take anyone to task. Dews made a comment about Cubs fans being dumb and stuff. I retorted with some of the White Sox posters that are currently on this board. I have two right now that are done right Special person.

 

[brett05]

They are on the Cubs board. Also, I didnt take anyone to task. Dews made a comment about Cubs fans being dumb and stuff. I retorted with some of the White Sox posters that are currently on this board. I have two right now that are done right Special person.

Did you mean down

I'd be careful removing the splinter there my friend.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Did you mean down

I'd be careful removing the splinter there my friend.

At least we both like WWE!

 

[SilenceS]

Did you mean down

I'd be careful removing the splinter there my friend.

Lol you are reaching now.