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The NBA needs to make it's own HOF and get rid of the travishamockery of a hall of fame that they have now which is filled with college coaches that no one gives a crap about.
I suppose they're unlikely to spend the money on such a product, but I think it would be successful and well worth it.
I suppose they're unlikely to spend the money on such a product, but I think it would be successful and well worth it.
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dougthonus wrote:
I'd have to agree. Don't get me wrong, the basketball hall of fame has its place, but Jordan, Bird, Magic, Hawkeem, Pip, etc.... how can you compare them to Dicky V? Time for an NBA HOF.
I'd have to agree. Don't get me wrong, the basketball hall of fame has its place, but Jordan, Bird, Magic, Hawkeem, Pip, etc.... how can you compare them to Dicky V? Time for an NBA HOF.
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chi_hawks_23 wrote:
I think there is the room for great journalists and commentators in the HOF. However, 50% (roughly) of the basketball HOF is college coaches. There is another huge group of contributors and others.
I just think the NBA needs it's own hall which is 80% players and 20% contributors/coaches. That's what people want to see IMO.
I think there is the room for great journalists and commentators in the HOF. However, 50% (roughly) of the basketball HOF is college coaches. There is another huge group of contributors and others.
I just think the NBA needs it's own hall which is 80% players and 20% contributors/coaches. That's what people want to see IMO.
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I personally think screw an NBA HOF. Simply make an individual Hall of Fame for Michael Jordan. In that hall can be others whose careers were made by Jordan, such as Pippen, Johnny Red, Kwame Brown, etc. Jordan was too good to simply be just another member of the HOF.
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mlewinth wrote:
Buy 10 story building and make the 10th floor the Jordan floor. Then Magic, Wilt, and Bird can share the 9th floor, and we'll work our way down etc..
Buy 10 story building and make the 10th floor the Jordan floor. Then Magic, Wilt, and Bird can share the 9th floor, and we'll work our way down etc..
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And then let's add on to the building with an 11th floor, and put an NBA Restaurant in there, and then have extended seating on the roof.
And then let's add on to the building with an 11th floor, and put an NBA Restaurant in there, and then have extended seating on the roof.
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NBA HOF a complete joke. Dick Vitale is in it come on.
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dougthonus wrote:
Come on DT, you don't like that Russian women basketball players, and early traveling teams like the "Buffalo Germans" get in the HOF with the likes of MJ, Magic and Bird. LOL.
Come on DT, you don't like that Russian women basketball players, and early traveling teams like the "Buffalo Germans" get in the HOF with the likes of MJ, Magic and Bird. LOL.
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dougthonus wrote:
so... what happens when LBJ goes down as a better player? giant wax figure on the roof?
so... what happens when LBJ goes down as a better player? giant wax figure on the roof?
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fola wrote:
Is that supposed to mean he melts under pressure or something? Regardless, congrats to a player that is the best I have ever seen play. He deserves to have the a trophy named after him like Bill Russell. Maybe the MVP trophy or scoring title? Good luck MJ, we all wish we could bang your gfdougthonus wrote:
so... what happens when LBJ goes down as a better player? giant wax figure on the roof?
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Hah, you're right. Wax may not be a good idea on the roof. How about a bronze one? Or a La-Bronz?!? :woohoo: get it?!?
ps, in retrospect, I shoulda kept that one inside.
fola wrote:
Is that supposed to mean he melts under pressure or something? Regardless, congrats to a player that is the best I have ever seen play. He deserves to have the a trophy named after him like Bill Russell. Maybe the MVP trophy or scoring title? Good luck MJ, we all wish we could bang your gfdougthonus wrote:
so... what happens when LBJ goes down as a better player? giant wax figure on the roof?
Hah, you're right. Wax may not be a good idea on the roof. How about a bronze one? Or a La-Bronz?!? :woohoo: get it?!?
ps, in retrospect, I shoulda kept that one inside.
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fola wrote:
Jordan will always be goldTheStig wrote:
fola wrote:
Is that supposed to mean he melts under pressure or something? Regardless, congrats to a player that is the best I have ever seen play. He deserves to have the a trophy named after him like Bill Russell. Maybe the MVP trophy or scoring title? Good luck MJ, we all wish we could bang your gfdougthonus wrote:
so... what happens when LBJ goes down as a better player? giant wax figure on the roof?
Hah, you're right. Wax may not be a good idea on the roof. How about a bronze one? Or a La-Bronz?!? :woohoo: get it?!?
ps, in retrospect, I shoulda kept that one inside.
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Does anyone have a picture of MJ holding up the HOF jersey? I would love to make it my background.
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Is there such a photo? He was just announced today, it wasn't the induction day.
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Yea I saw on TV today Doug. MJ, Robinson, Stockton all holding up white jerseys with #09 on them and with their names on it, the front had the HOF logo on it.
Yea I saw on TV today Doug. MJ, Robinson, Stockton all holding up white jerseys with #09 on them and with their names on it, the front had the HOF logo on it.
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Doug go to NBA.com home page
they have a mini picture of it.
they have a mini picture of it.
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This has been bothering me for quite a while, and after talking to some people, I think it's time for this.
IHN has really become a very unfun place to be. When this site was first started, the intent was to have a place where we could hang out and talk about hockey or anything else that crossed our mind. The Officials was the place where we all met, but moderation over there had become so restrictive, and type of free-flow conversation was squelched. The elimination of NHTA was the straw that broke the camel's back, and we left for greener pastures.
Fast forward to today, and this place seems a lot the way the Officials used to be. Threads and posts are deleted without explanation. Posters are banned simply because they are not liked by other posters. Comments are removed from the front page.
There is no reason for this type of heavy-handed censorship. There are Mods here that have let the power of their "special access" COMPLETELY go to their heads. Shit, I was told, after complaining that a post of mine was deleted, that if I didn't like a decision of a mod, I could go elsewhere. That's a crock of bullshit. The mods don't own this fucking place, and it's not their jobs to decide what posts can stay and what posts can go.
As a matter of fact, this place doesn't need all of these moderators. Miller manages to moderate his site all by himself, and its been around a hell of a lot longer than IHN. And the number of posters is about equal. Threads can, for the most part, police themselves. Who gives a shit if it gets off topic. Threads, like conversations, evolve. The mods have a very narrow scope of responsibility. It is almost 100% unnecessary to "clean things up". Guess what? Threads that veer too far off topic tend to die all by themselves.
There also is a very mean tone that is pervasive around here. Some of that is due to the Hawks horseshit season. But too many times, especially in game threads, the conversation degrades to insults. Rather than counter a post that you don't agree with your own argument, many times the poster will be made fun of, followed by the usual sycophantic ganging up on said poster. As an example, plenty of folks made fun of my "playoff percentage" number, yet only one person countered my post with their own opinion. Instead, we got the typical mean-spirited responses by those who were either unable or unwilling to intelligently retort, followed by the usual cackling in other threads about it.
You know what? My opinion is just as good as yours. If you don't like it, counter it with your own or keep your fucking mouth shut. You can also put me on ignore. That further limits the conversation, but whatever. If you don't want to read my posts, use the ignore button.
Anyhow, I bring this up because I'm hoping to avoid an exodus from IHN. Don't think people will leave? Look around. How many of the original posters still come by? I bet you could come up with a list as big as I did.
The solution? Mods need to back the **** off. Your role is that of a librarian: You are there to make sure the books stay on the shelf, not get rid of the books you don't like. Don't like a post? Tough. Unless it is calling someone a name or is abusive, leave it the **** alone. Thread getting off track? Too bad. Leave it alone. Don't like a poster. Who gives a **** if you don't like them?
If this shit continues, others will leave and this place will die, which would be a shame.
Opinions? Post below.
IHN has really become a very unfun place to be. When this site was first started, the intent was to have a place where we could hang out and talk about hockey or anything else that crossed our mind. The Officials was the place where we all met, but moderation over there had become so restrictive, and type of free-flow conversation was squelched. The elimination of NHTA was the straw that broke the camel's back, and we left for greener pastures.
Fast forward to today, and this place seems a lot the way the Officials used to be. Threads and posts are deleted without explanation. Posters are banned simply because they are not liked by other posters. Comments are removed from the front page.
There is no reason for this type of heavy-handed censorship. There are Mods here that have let the power of their "special access" COMPLETELY go to their heads. Shit, I was told, after complaining that a post of mine was deleted, that if I didn't like a decision of a mod, I could go elsewhere. That's a crock of bullshit. The mods don't own this fucking place, and it's not their jobs to decide what posts can stay and what posts can go.
As a matter of fact, this place doesn't need all of these moderators. Miller manages to moderate his site all by himself, and its been around a hell of a lot longer than IHN. And the number of posters is about equal. Threads can, for the most part, police themselves. Who gives a shit if it gets off topic. Threads, like conversations, evolve. The mods have a very narrow scope of responsibility. It is almost 100% unnecessary to "clean things up". Guess what? Threads that veer too far off topic tend to die all by themselves.
There also is a very mean tone that is pervasive around here. Some of that is due to the Hawks horseshit season. But too many times, especially in game threads, the conversation degrades to insults. Rather than counter a post that you don't agree with your own argument, many times the poster will be made fun of, followed by the usual sycophantic ganging up on said poster. As an example, plenty of folks made fun of my "playoff percentage" number, yet only one person countered my post with their own opinion. Instead, we got the typical mean-spirited responses by those who were either unable or unwilling to intelligently retort, followed by the usual cackling in other threads about it.
You know what? My opinion is just as good as yours. If you don't like it, counter it with your own or keep your fucking mouth shut. You can also put me on ignore. That further limits the conversation, but whatever. If you don't want to read my posts, use the ignore button.
Anyhow, I bring this up because I'm hoping to avoid an exodus from IHN. Don't think people will leave? Look around. How many of the original posters still come by? I bet you could come up with a list as big as I did.
The solution? Mods need to back the **** off. Your role is that of a librarian: You are there to make sure the books stay on the shelf, not get rid of the books you don't like. Don't like a post? Tough. Unless it is calling someone a name or is abusive, leave it the **** alone. Thread getting off track? Too bad. Leave it alone. Don't like a poster. Who gives a **** if you don't like them?
If this shit continues, others will leave and this place will die, which would be a shame.
Opinions? Post below.
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Lord knows I don't want this place to die. Ton has worked hard making this site what it is, with some help from a fella that doesn't even come here any more, and has made it a beautiful place. However, the oppressive over-moderation and general "what do you know" tone around here have made quite a few leave, and has actually PREVENTED new folks from joining in the fun here. The lack of intelligent, cohesive discussions about both hockey and non hockey crap has destroyed the family atmosphere here.
Take kerfuffle for instance. I don't think anyone here agreed with anything he posted. It more often then not devolved into name calling. I was guilty of that for sure, and I know many other are too. However, just because we don't agree with him doesn't mean he should have been booted.
Canucklehead still pops in here on occasion, but not as often as I would like. That kid, despite the flaw of being a Canucks fan, was able to talk about hockey without a bias. He could have a good back and forth discussion with just about anyone about anything, hockey being one of his fortes. He could look beyond his fandom and not belittle someone for not being there, or not being in the same state.
Where has Tbird gone? He was always a font oh knowledge, and laughs. Needabiggerboat, Mill500, hell, the entire Miller clan. Lots of good hockey folk have left, and I want them back.
Take kerfuffle for instance. I don't think anyone here agreed with anything he posted. It more often then not devolved into name calling. I was guilty of that for sure, and I know many other are too. However, just because we don't agree with him doesn't mean he should have been booted.
Canucklehead still pops in here on occasion, but not as often as I would like. That kid, despite the flaw of being a Canucks fan, was able to talk about hockey without a bias. He could have a good back and forth discussion with just about anyone about anything, hockey being one of his fortes. He could look beyond his fandom and not belittle someone for not being there, or not being in the same state.
Where has Tbird gone? He was always a font oh knowledge, and laughs. Needabiggerboat, Mill500, hell, the entire Miller clan. Lots of good hockey folk have left, and I want them back.
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Someone got it in their mind that Fluff was trolling. What the **** is "trolling"? To me, it's a meaningless word that allows mods to ban people for no reason.
Fluff might have been a screwball, but he made NHTA interesting, unlike the barrel of dead fish it is right now.
Funny thing, posts I made defending him here were deleted.
O. Henry would pop a woody at that one.
Fluff might have been a screwball, but he made NHTA interesting, unlike the barrel of dead fish it is right now.
Funny thing, posts I made defending him here were deleted.
O. Henry would pop a woody at that one.