Just for the Cutler thread haters.

[Calabis]

:hawked:

Hey Jim "playoffs" Mora...still waiting for you to show how Cutler outperformed Flacco in playoffs? Let me guess...you are finding Cutlers best three years, combining that with his 1.5 games played in the playoffs, vs Flacco's worst three years and worst 1.5 games in the playoffs....oops I mean 2 games..he tends to be durable and actually finish games.

 

[Newblood]

Hey Jim "playoffs" Mora...still waiting for you to show how Cutler outperformed Flacco in playoffs? Let me guess...you are finding Cutlers best three years, combining that with his 1.5 games played in the playoffs, vs Flacco's worst three years and worst 1.5 games in the playoffs....oops I mean 2 games..he tends to be durable and actually finish games.

Lol. Yep, your reading comprehension is still pathetic. TRY reading back, and you will find your answer. Or just stick to porn.

How many questions am I still waiting for you to answer? Oh that's right. I gave up on getting a straight answer from you 6 pages ago. Funny that you bring up cherry picking. Who has the better career QB rating again? You know, the generally accepted stat for measuring a QB performance? Ill be waiting.

 

[mecha]

Lol. Yep, your reading comprehension is still pathetic. TRY reading back, and you will find your answer. Or just stick to porn.

How many questions am I still waiting for you to answer? Oh that's right. I gave up on getting a straight answer from you 6 pages ago. Funny that you bring up cherry picking. Who has the better career QB rating again? You know, the generally accepted stat for measuring a QB performance? Ill be waiting.

you mean Cutler's is actually higher than Flaccos?

 

[Newblood]

you mean Cutler's is actually higher than Flaccos?

Weird right? Yet somehow Cutler isn't even in the same conversation as Flacco

 

[Uncle Zeek]

Wow. There really are no mods here.

 

[Newblood]

Wow. There really are no mods here.

Nothing to moderate here. This thread delivers!

 

[bearmick]

fact is you need too look at the teams themselves those bears teams luckman was on were dominant teams in their day Jay hasn't really had a team worth a **** too be fair by the time they built an offense around him the defense fell off a cliff.

Jay is by far more dominant and honestly I think you put cutler in luckmans era he does better than luckman did. I cant say the same for luckman

You realize there are around 15-20 better QBs than Cutler every year, right? Compared to their respective eras (which is the only way you can compare QBs from completely different generations playing completely different games), Luckman was far better than Cutler.

I think FT showed that McMahon ranked better among the QBs in his day too.

 

[Mongo_76]

You realize there are around 15-20 better QBs than Cutler every year, right? Compared to their respective eras (which is the only way you can compare QBs from completely different generations playing completely different games), Luckman was far better than Cutler.

I think FT showed that McMahon ranked better among the QBs in his day too.

Cutler will likely go down as the highest paid QB to never win a playoff game against a winning team.

And the Bears of the 2010's will go down as one of the dumbest front offices ever to keep and pay him.

 

[WindyCity]

I have Cutler around 12-13 so 15 for me is not a stretch.

His track record is obviously not good.

What I am looking at is what he does this season. If he regresses to the mean, then okay, but I am going to wait for the regression to happen.

 

[Calabis]

Lol. Yep, your reading comprehension is still pathetic. TRY reading back, and you will find your answer. Or just stick to porn.

How many questions am I still waiting for you to answer? Oh that's right. I gave up on getting a straight answer from you 6 pages ago. Funny that you bring up cherry picking. Who has the better career QB rating again? You know, the generally accepted stat for measuring a QB performance? Ill be waiting.

Again passer rating? Lol...u ignore wins, ability to make it through a season and what really counts ability perform in the playoffs....no he is not in the conversation

I guess alll these coaches got it wrong too

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4699085/espn-quarterback-survey-ranks-jay-cutler-no-20

http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/20717/joe-flacco-ranked-in-second-tier-of-qbs-in-espn-survey

But hey what do people involved with the game know...I have you on the message board, discounting the importance of impact and playoffs....that reg season passer rating is the tell all....lol Im sure having a 100 pass catching back doesnt skew that stat at all

 

[run and shoot]

"The past is for cowards and losers" Mike Ditka

This season he is playing well.

i cu u conveniently avoided what I was responding too. Lets keep things in context for the future. Now go back read what I responded too.

 

[Newblood]

Again passer rating? Lol...u ignore wins, ability to make it through a season and what really counts ability perform in the playoffs....no he is not in the conversation

I guess alll these coaches got it wrong too

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4699085/espn-quarterback-survey-ranks-jay-cutler-no-20

http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/20717/joe-flacco-ranked-in-second-tier-of-qbs-in-espn-survey

But hey what do people involved with the game know...I have you on the message board, discounting the importance of impact and playoffs....that reg season passer rating is the tell all.

I'm mostly just laughing at you grasping and flailing at this point. Please keep trying. I enjoy the lulz

The fact that you think going to the playoffs is all on the QB has me rolling.

The fact I said Flacco has better QB stats in the playoffs like 8 pages ago, but you keep fighting for it makes me giggle.

The fact that you discount the most universal measure of a QB individual performance and try to interject team stats to support your argument gives me a chuckle.

The fact that you've spent the last 3 hours scouring the Internet for one writeup and poll from unspecified pollies who admit to using his salary as weight in their decision to try to support your case is funny.

But the fact that I've run you in circles over this for pages as you bounce from one line of reasoning to another has to be the best.

And it's cute that you think I'm even trying any more. You looked like a fool pages ago. It's was over pages ago. I've made the point pages ago. The only one still fighting to make a point any more is you. Lol

I would like to thank you for keeping me entertained today. I've thoroughly enjoyed it.

 

[Newblood]

New blood...got a buddy I work with from the fiesta bowl team...siblings from ASU....he is shitting bricks about this game ....PMA man...positive mental affect....shut...I live 4 minutes from Rice Eccles....I hear the crowd on huge plays

Go Utes!

I had my doubts for a bit there!

If it wasn't for special teams retardation, it wouldn't have been close!

 

[Justin Heras]

I don't understand why the haters gotta get so grumpy and pissy when anything at all good mentioned about Cutler comes out. If/when he passes Sid's record it's a big accomplishment for him no matter how bad you hate Cutler.

I think most of them believed that Cutler was their imaginary boyfriend and eventually when they realized that Cutler wasn't a Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers they felt cheated. Now they have turned into the " psychotic ex girlfriend " and their pathetic little lives revolve around their ex and doing every thing they can to demonize him to all their " friends ".

:side note:
When Cutler breaks Luckman's record i will for ever refer to Cutler as the " All Time greatest QB in Bears history, the one the only... JAY CUTLER ". Hopefully it annoys a certain group of people who make these forums suck.

 

[Willis1524]

Again passer rating? Lol...u ignore wins, ability to make it through a season and what really counts ability perform in the playoffs....no he is not in the conversation

I guess alll these coaches got it wrong too

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4699085/espn-quarterback-survey-ranks-jay-cutler-no-20

http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/20717/joe-flacco-ranked-in-second-tier-of-qbs-in-espn-survey

But hey what do people involved with the game know...I have you on the message board, discounting the importance of impact and playoffs....that reg season passer rating is the tell all....lol Im sure having a 100 pass catching back doesnt skew that stat at all

Don't want to get involved with the Cutler/flacco debate, but counting wins for a QB is dumb. As for the laying through a season, poor OL play and a QB who runs the ball more would affect that. Hard to rely on those. Flaccos stats in the playoffs should speak for itself without having to rely on flawed arguments. But let's not pretend that flacco was on subpar teams during those playoff runs. He did play elite though.

 

[Monsieur Tirets]

I have Cutler around 12-13 so 15 for me is not a stretch.

His track record is obviously not good.

What I am looking at is what he does this season. If he regresses to the mean, then okay, but I am going to wait for the regression to happen.

all off season you went on about how it doesnt matter what cutler did this year, it was time to move on. but now after 5 mediocre games in which he hasnt played any different than he ever has youre acting as if hes possibly put it all together.


you flip flop constantly. just like originally trestman was the man and his approach to coaching was really going to click, then next thing you know his approach couldnt possibly have worked. you just throw your hat in the ring with whatever the current flavor of the month is.

 

[WindyCity]

all off season you went on about how it doesnt matter what cutler did this year, it was time to move on. but now after 5 mediocre games in which he hasnt played any different than he ever has youre acting as if hes possibly put it all together.


you flip flop constantly. just like originally trestman was the man and his approach to coaching was really going to click, then next thing you know his approach couldnt possibly have worked. you just throw your hat in the ring with whatever the current flavor of the month is.

Not true at all. I don't flip flop.

I change my opinion when presented with new evidence.

I have ever once acted like I didn't originally support Trestman, or that I was not fooled by Emery. I don't pretend to have supported Jay, nor do I pretend that I am not interested in finding his replacement. I am not interested in the flavour of the month, but I will change my stance when evidence requires it.


I don't think Jay is an elite QB, I do not think that the Bears should go all in with Cutler, and I do think they should continue to look for his replacement.

But he is playing well this season, better than I expected, and if he continues to plays this well, combined with not getting he top pick and a questionable QB class, I would not rush to replace him.

 

[WindyCity]

I have always said that Cutler is a mediocre QB and was some where around the middle of the pack in the NFL.

The reason I would move him from 15 to 12-13 is because Stafford and Kaep have looked so horrendously bad.

 

[Monsieur Tirets]

Not true at all. I don't flip flop.

I change my opinion when presented with new evidence.

I have ever once acted like I didn't originally support Trestman, or that I was not fooled by Emery. I don't pretend to have supported Jay, nor do I pretend that I am not interested in finding his replacement. I am not interested in the flavour of the month, but I will change my stance when evidence requires it.


I don't think Jay is an elite QB, I do not think that the Bears should go all in with Cutler, and I do think they should continue to look for his replacement.

But he is playing well this season, better than I expected, and if he continues to plays this well, combined with not getting he top pick and a questionable QB class, I would not rush to replace him.

yet, all off season you went on about how they need to find his replacement regardless. and you twist the evidence in a very homerish manner simply in order to form your opinion so that its supports whatever direction the organization seems to be heading.

youre a fan, i get it, i simply cant try to view every move, or likely move, the org makes in an optimistic manner any longer. that died last year.

 

[Willis1524]

I have always said that Cutler is a mediocre QB and was some where around the middle of the pack in the NFL.

The reason I would move him from 15 to 12-13 is because Stafford and Kaep have looked so horrendously bad.

Don't get sucked in Windy, it's not worth it.