KAP: Flus & Poles was an arranged marriage

[Rise]

Been saying this since day one and now it’s finally confirmed. Flus was dropped on Flus by George, just like Fox and Pace.

A guy from the Chiefs hiring a cover 2 DC never made sense and now we finally get confirmation of the truth.

George is the problem, he constantly meddles and is why this organization is the way it is.

 

[PhilEBuster]

Been saying this since day one and now it’s finally confirmed. Flus was dropped on Flus by George, just like Fox and Pace.

A guy from the Chiefs hiring a cover 2 DC never made sense and now we finally get confirmation of the truth.

George is the problem, he constantly meddles and is why this organization is the way it is.

Well, reports are suggesting Kevin Warren is tired of washing his car and pressing his suits and will be a major player in the search for a new head coach.

So I guess Pudge Poles better get ready for another arranged marriage . . .

 

[Butkus34]

Don't forget that Sweaty Teddy was still around at that time to help oversee things.

 

[Enasic]

Been saying this since day one and now it’s finally confirmed. Flus was dropped on Flus by George, just like Fox and Pace.

A guy from the Chiefs hiring a cover 2 DC never made sense and now we finally get confirmation of the truth.

George is the problem, he constantly meddles and is why this organization is the way it is.

Anyone who thinks the Chicago Bears GM has full authority of the HC hire/decision (especially the first hire) has either not been paying attention, or is completely naive.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Been saying this since day one and now it’s finally confirmed. Flus was dropped on Flus by George, just like Fox and Pace.

A guy from the Chiefs hiring a cover 2 DC never made sense and now we finally get confirmation of the truth.

George is the problem, he constantly meddles and is why this organization is the way it is.

That's not at all the case. There's audio being played on 670 the score from Poles talking about his process of for hiring Matt Eberflus had been long time coming even before 2022.

He knew Eberflus was the guy when he walked in the door for interview one. The audio is clear.

Stop trying to defend Poles because of one trade.

 

[sevvy]

Is there a specific source/video where this in confirmed or something? I know it's been speculated a lot, and I found it very odd that a GM is hired, and like a day or 2 later the head coach is announced after interviewing with ownership before the GM has been hired. It just never smelled right to me.

 

[Rise]

That's not at all the case. There's audio being played on 670 the score from Poles talking about his process of for hiring Matt Eberflus had been long time coming even before 2022.

He knew Eberflus was the guy when he walked in the door for interview one. The audio is clear.

Stop trying to defend Poles because of one trade.

I’m not defending him.

 

[Penny Traitor]

It's less Eberflus was forced on Poles as much as it's Eberflus was one of three coaches forced on Poles because of the weird and stupid way that whole hiring cycle went.

So he had the illusion of choice.

In hindsight, maybe Ryan Poles hired Matt Eberflus because as a very young and very green General Manager, Ryan Poles was more intimidated by the two veteran coaches and hired someone too much like himself. It's common misstep for young managers in all professions I imagine.

So now does he have the guts to hire a HC that is going to challenge him as well as this entire team.

 

[Enasic]

It's less Eberflus was forced on Poles as much as it's Eberflus was one of three coaches forced on Poles because of the weird and stupid way that whole hiring cycle went.

So he had the illusion of choice.

In hindsight, maybe Ryan Poles hired Matt Eberflus because as a very young and very green General Manager, Ryan Poles was more intimidated by the two veteran coaches and hired someone too much like himself. It's common misstep for young managers in all professions I imagine.

So now does he have the guts to hire a HC that is going to challenge him as well as this entire team.

Assuming what you’re saying is correct (may not be), then yes, I believe he would learn from his mistake. He took ownership after the Claypool trade and specifically said, he’s a guy that learns from his mistakes and isn’t afraid to own up to them, but instead learns from it and doesn’t repeat it. So far, it’s checked out.

 

[PhilEBuster]

It's less Eberflus was forced on Poles as much as it's Eberflus was one of three coaches forced on Poles because of the weird and stupid way that whole hiring cycle went.

So he had the illusion of choice.

In hindsight, maybe Ryan Poles hired Matt Eberflus because as a very young and very green General Manager, Ryan Poles was more intimidated by the two veteran coaches and hired someone too much like himself. It's common misstep for young managers in all professions I imagine.

So now does he have the guts to hire a HC that is going to challenge him as well as this entire team.

Pudge doesn't need to have the guts. Warren - Ginny's proxy - is gonna do it . . .

 

[Penny Traitor]

Assuming what you’re saying is correct (may not be), then yes, I believe he would learn from his mistake. He took ownership after the Claypool trade and specifically said, he’s a guy that learns from his mistakes and isn’t afraid to own up to them, but instead learns from it and doesn’t repeat it. So far, it’s checked out.

I keep saying it, he's learning on the job and all we can do is hope that learning curve gets less steep each passing week.

Pudge doesn't need to have the guts. Warren - Ginny's proxy - is gonna do it . . .

I like the idea of Kevin Warren and Ryan Poles leading the search. Even if George walks into that room, he is going to be the clear beta without Sweaty Teddy and the new 75 year old "consultant" flanking him.

He will be lucky to get in more than ten words and the Bears will be better off for it.

 

[EDPeezy]

That's not at all the case. There's audio being played on 670 the score from Poles talking about his process of for hiring Matt Eberflus had been long time coming even before 2022.

He knew Eberflus was the guy when he walked in the door for interview one. The audio is clear.

Stop trying to defend Poles because of one trade.

Poles hadn’t even been hired when Eberflus did his first interview. They had already narrowed the list down to three candidates when he was hired. At best he had his choice between the three candidates the FO and Bill Polian gave him. And lol at thinking for a second they gave him the authority to make that decision on his own.

And anybody that takes to heart canned answers coaches, GM’s, players use in press conferences or interviews with the media is an idiot. Ryan Poles isn’t going to talk shit on Matt Eberflus when asked a question by a member of the media. What the hell do you think he’s going to say when asked about the hiring of Eberflus? “I didn’t even want him. It wasn’t really even my choice. If this goes bad you can blame my bosses because they lead the hiring process. if they want to fire me for saying this and throwing them under the bus then so be it. I’m perfectly happy losing my job that pays me millions of dollars annually so you, a member of the media who I don’t give a shit about can write an article.”

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

Kap's sources are usually fictional characters

 

[Chicago Staleys]

All speculation

 

[discplayer]

It's less Eberflus was forced on Poles as much as it's Eberflus was one of three coaches forced on Poles because of the weird and stupid way that whole hiring cycle went.

So he had the illusion of choice.

In hindsight, maybe Ryan Poles hired Matt Eberflus because as a very young and very green General Manager, Ryan Poles was more intimidated by the two veteran coaches and hired someone too much like himself. It's common misstep for young managers in all professions I imagine.

So now does he have the guts to hire a HC that is going to challenge him as well as this entire team.

Well put

 

[discplayer]

I keep saying it, he's learning on the job and all we can do is hope that learning curve gets less steep each passing week.



I like the idea of Kevin Warren and Ryan Poles leading the search. Even if George walks into that room, he is going to be the clear beta without Sweaty Teddy and the new 75 year old "consultant" flanking him.

He will be lucky to get in more than ten words and the Bears will be better off for it.

Let's hope it goes down like this!

 

[Toast88]

Source? If it's David Kaplan, the guy is pretty well known for spouting off speculation while passing it off as fact.

It may or may not be true, but I'd like to see some reporting.

For what it's worth, Adam Hoge & Adam Jahns after the Bears' loss to the Lions said pretty definitively the following as fact:

-The Bears always viewed the coaching search & GM search as parallel searches to be done by the Board & George McCaskey (the Bears' own website transcript confirms this)
-The Bears Board gave Ryan Poles the option of Matt Eberflus, Dan Quinn or Jim Caldwell, OR TO BRING IN HIS OWN GUY(S), and Poles chose Eberflus.

I have no idea whether any of that is actually true or genuine, but when Bears-specific Chicago beat reporters report something as fact, I at least take note. Both Hoge & Jahns recognized this as fact during their postgame podcast.

 

[EDPeezy]

Why does something we all lived through need to be confirmed by anybody? It wasn’t decades ago. It was 3 years ago. There were articles daily on what was happening. It’s not a mystery we need an investigation into. The coach and GM hiring process was going on simultaneously. They brought in Bill Polian and he lead the coaching search. There were reports everywhere the coaching candidate list was down to 3. Caldwell, Eberflus and Quinn. These reports were all out before Poles had even been hired. To think they went through all this without Poles and then when they hired let him take over is laughable. It’s pointless to go through that narrowing process if it’s all moot because you’re going to let your newly hired GM take over and bring his own guys in anyway. Its doesn’t take a genius to figure out Bill Polian had more say than anybody in the process of picking the HC. Two of the three candidates were a current Colts coordinator and another was a long time coach of the Colts. Wanna guess what organization Bill Polian came from?

 

[bamainatlanta]

I highly doubt that Poles was going to be able to bring in his own guy.

 

[TL1961]

Everybody’s got their own theory of what happened and nothing‘s ever gonna change anyone’s mind. We have literally rehash this 100 fucking times.