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I don't want him anywhere near this team in the future.
I don't want him anywhere near this team in the future.
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No way he gets 2-3 million more in arbitration. He'll be lucky to get a raise at all. That is if the Cubs even tender him a contract. Personally I think they would be stupid to.
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Arbitration has less to do with how good you are and more about how much playing time you see. Obviously if you are a cy young that's going to increase your value. Take another 2B in chicago who struggled in the past. Last year Gordon Beckham made $2.925 mil in arbitration 1. He hit a relatively average .267/.322/.372. This year he's making $4,175,000. So, perhaps $4-5 mil was a bit high of an estimate. Might be more like $3-4 but the point is he's going to get a raise even if he doesn't deserve one. The way the system is set up is such that players get raises if they get playing time because teams steal them in their first 3 years making $400-500k.
That being said, I doubt the cubs will tender him as you suggest mainly because what he would get in arbitration isn't what he is worth. My point was simply that Barney isn't some cheap player. Even at $3 mil/year there's arguably better options in FA.
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if they do plan on bringing him up this year , it most likely will be after they make some deals.. bryant is currently not on 40 man roster...
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Score apparently just had on Theo and he said Bryant would be in AAA this year just not sure when as he still has things to work on.
Sorry, this is a horrible move. He has nothing to learn in AA at this point.
Sorry, this is a horrible move. He has nothing to learn in AA at this point.
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Cubs would just be better off calling up someone like Watkins in place of Barney heading into next year and save themselves a few million. They have to add some actual talent this winter that is here to stay and not just flip
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It's highly probable they will hope to feature Barney as a potential throw in to a Hammel or Shark trade to "sweeten" the deal for a team as a bench player or for a team extremely desperate at 2B maybe a spot starter. That in turn saves them the issue with freeing a roster spot for Bryant and such.
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Yes. Holding him back this year from AAA holds him back from debuting in the MLB until summer/fall of 2015.
Simply, to me, its a way for the Cubs to keep expectations down until 2016. Not sure why they'd do that, but a few of the things they did have made little to no sense to me.
So 2016 and Bryant will be ready to save the day? It will be Theo's 5th full season in Chicago. Bryant's going to be good, but....
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theo said he will be in AAA at some point this year. .
my guess they need to open up 3B for him by figuring out what to do with Villanueva..
I still see bryant up at some point this year, probably in Aug or Sept. now if their giving him time in Iowa.
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STarting to think Theo is just another Dusty Baker....Tons of hope, but failure is coming.
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I don't know how you can call this realistic....Baez's glove is the same as Bryants, if not worse....Bryant is hitting better than Baez. As far I have seen, Baez SO rate is worse than Bryant.
Is there some type guideline for time in the Minor Leagues that I am missing? Cuz, if the kid is goin to fail......it doesn't matter when he makes it to the Majors....Cuz, he has nothing more to prove at the Minor league level.
If your excuse is that the Cubs suck right now? How much better will they be next year when they dumpster dive next year? Give up their top pitcher in a trade this year at the trade deadline?
I don't see any facts to support any reason why Bryant can't come up to the Cubs this year......If anything, all positives. Attendance, Experience, and Hope.
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If you’re waiting for advancement to the major leagues by one of the Chicago Cubs' big-name prospects, you might be waiting for a while yet. The most likely choice to see Wrigley Field this season remains infielder Arismendy Alcantara, the 100th-rated prospect in baseball entering 2014 according to Baseball America. Or maybe he should be labeled as an infielder/outfielder.
Alcantara, 22, has worked his way up through the Cubs system as a shortstop and a second baseman, but as he prepares to take the final step to the major leagues the Cubs have given him some time in the outfield. He’s played three games in center field this season at Triple-A Iowa, including starting there last Wednesday. It doesn’t sound like much, but it worked for another Cubs prospect who made a permanent position change.
Junior Lake took a similar path, as the Cubs gave him six games in the outfield at Triple-A Iowa last season after spending the majority of his time in the organization as a third baseman. Lake was called up late last July and has played exclusively in left and center. The difference here is Alcantara’s time in the outfield doesn’t necessarily signal a position switch, just that they want him prepared for anything in the majors. Worst-case scenario, the Cubs envision him as an Emilio Bonifacio type of player -- good enough to play all over the diamond and a player who can hit from both sides of the plate. Or he could simply take over one of the middle infield positions as an everyday starter. But Javier Baez and Kris Bryant are going to be in the majors soon as well -- at least the Cubs hope so -- and Starlin Castro and Anthony Rizzo are already there. Alcantara could be prepping to take over center field until further notice. It would make sense with the Cubs thin in ready-made outfield prospects and center fielder/ first round pick Albert Almora stuck at Class-A Daytona.
Alcantara is hitting .273 with eight home runs to go along with nine triples, but his on-base percentage is only .312 thanks to just 15 walks this season. His fielding percentage has risen nicely over the last couple of years in the minors as he’s made 10 errors this season so far at second base and shortstop after combining for 33 last year at those positions. He’s made one error in the outfield in three games. While the Cubs have several higher-rated prospects, Alcantara is the best position player choice to make it to the majors before season’s end.
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/
Alcantara, 22, has worked his way up through the Cubs system as a shortstop and a second baseman, but as he prepares to take the final step to the major leagues the Cubs have given him some time in the outfield. He’s played three games in center field this season at Triple-A Iowa, including starting there last Wednesday. It doesn’t sound like much, but it worked for another Cubs prospect who made a permanent position change.
Junior Lake took a similar path, as the Cubs gave him six games in the outfield at Triple-A Iowa last season after spending the majority of his time in the organization as a third baseman. Lake was called up late last July and has played exclusively in left and center. The difference here is Alcantara’s time in the outfield doesn’t necessarily signal a position switch, just that they want him prepared for anything in the majors. Worst-case scenario, the Cubs envision him as an Emilio Bonifacio type of player -- good enough to play all over the diamond and a player who can hit from both sides of the plate. Or he could simply take over one of the middle infield positions as an everyday starter. But Javier Baez and Kris Bryant are going to be in the majors soon as well -- at least the Cubs hope so -- and Starlin Castro and Anthony Rizzo are already there. Alcantara could be prepping to take over center field until further notice. It would make sense with the Cubs thin in ready-made outfield prospects and center fielder/ first round pick Albert Almora stuck at Class-A Daytona.
Alcantara is hitting .273 with eight home runs to go along with nine triples, but his on-base percentage is only .312 thanks to just 15 walks this season. His fielding percentage has risen nicely over the last couple of years in the minors as he’s made 10 errors this season so far at second base and shortstop after combining for 33 last year at those positions. He’s made one error in the outfield in three games. While the Cubs have several higher-rated prospects, Alcantara is the best position player choice to make it to the majors before season’s end.
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/
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That article is pretty much what I've been thinking with Alcantara taking over Bonifacio's role.
Now lets see: Baez at 2B or Barney? Baez wins by a land slide.
Alcantara in CF or Sweeney....again.
I see Valbuena playing 3B with Olt and Bryant in RF. If Soler produces in Iowa then Bryant goes to 3B.
Baez has struggled this year. Last year he mashed in AA. As Bryant is now.
Both have swing and miss to their games but both can crush any mistake. That is why you let them mature in the league. Potential.
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I don't believe Olt is in any plans for the Cubs.
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He plays good D and a high % of his hits (and they are few) are HR's.
On the short stick of a platoon you look at D and another asset. HR power counts.
Anywho I believe that he will get slightly better. .220-.240 BA as a vet.
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Funny part is Olt is running 1 HR per 15 AB's. That is not bad all thing concidering. He has the ability to crush a pitch left in the zone. The problem is what he is doing with the other 14 AB's.
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Bryant isn't going to skip AAA. Unfortunately but at the same time good is the fact that we don't have to rush out prospects, and they can get acclimated at every level before being called up to the majors.
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When I look at Olt....I see Dave Kingman. Big power, .220 average. Even a little Mark Reynolds. I hope he's around one more year.
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Bryant got promoted to AAA per his twitter.
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Is official. Iowa is going to be very interesting the rest of the year with Bryant, Baez, Alcantara, and Manny at some point. Beef Castle will be there rehabbing tomorrow as well. So fun game to watch on the offday.